Guilty pleasure: Kicking in the DTC

roadburn · 09-30-2008, 10:59 PM

I know I'm supposed to be a purist and prefer my 135i with no "nannytronics" engaged.

Either that, or I'm supposed to leave Dynamic Stability Control on at all times, for safety's sake.

Call me a nut, but I enjoy the Third Path: Activating Digital Traction Control and letting the rear end hang out a little. It's not "art," but it's fun.

lovemywhip · 09-30-2008, 11:13 PM

agreed.

AZ135 · 10-01-2008, 12:30 AM

what exactly does that do?

Lester · 10-01-2008, 04:36 AM

The default mode is DSC (Dynamic Stability Control). In this mode, the computer will temporarily reduce power to the engine, and/or apply brakes at individual wheels if it detects the car is about to swerve or go out of control. This is how most drivers should be driving their 135i. This feature can definitely be felt when it kicks in, and you will see the indicator light come on.

One quick press turns ON DTC mode (dynamic traction control) which turns down stability control, and adds increased traction. This is used in heavy snow, rain or loose gravel or any environment where you need extra traction but you don't want the stability control intervening because it always thinks your skidding.

Hold the button down for 5 seconds turns off both DSC (dynamic stability control) and DTC (dynamic traction control) but the e-diff is activated. This puts the car in 'TIM-YOYO' mode. (That's It Motherf***er-You’re On Your Own). In TIM YOYO mode, you only get the e-diff, but no stability or traction control.

When DSC (dynamic stability control) is on, the goal isn't just to stop the rear wheels from spinning. The goal is to prevent the car from going out of control. The computer will use engine cut out, and individual brakes to slow the car down and bring it back in line. That works opposite from the E-Diff, which tries to slow down the wheel that's spinning, to shift power to the one that has grip.

AZ135 · 10-01-2008, 10:15 AM

sweet deal... thanks for that

mikeo · 10-01-2008, 10:57 AM

Good post, Lester! Thanks for taking the time to share.

PrimoM3 · 10-01-2008, 11:10 AM

DTC on/ DSC off FTW! It's nice to hang the rear out a little without wagging the tail entirely and getting into trouble (especially if you're on pblic roads).

Ditto - great post Lester! I'm not a TIM-YOYO kind of guy but I love ONO TITS (One Nanny Off - To Instigate Tail Slides). Okay maybe not as creative...

Maine1 · 10-01-2008, 12:22 PM

I'm with you on that being my favorite mode. You get a little slip and then grip on the hard corners.

Dr_Jones · 10-01-2008, 07:19 PM

timyoyo tee shirts?

Id wear it

raisemyrent · 10-01-2008, 08:23 PM

TIM YOYO ALL THE WAY!

wohoo!!

not that I have never done an unexpected (oh my God my car can do this without the nannies on?!) 180... ever.

I like ONO TITS too, but before the snow out I will enjoy as much YOYO as I can get.

ben14142001 · 10-01-2008, 09:51 PM

Wow, nice. I didn't know DTC was better for unplowed snowy roads. God read.

-Ben

09-30-2008, 10:59 PM	#1
roadburn rrroadburn 21 Rep 243 Posts Drives: SGM 135i Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Ohio Valley iTrader: (0)	Guilty pleasure: Kicking in the DTC I know I'm supposed to be a purist and prefer my 135i with no "nannytronics" engaged. Either that, or I'm supposed to leave Dynamic Stability Control on at all times, for safety's sake. Call me a nut, but I enjoy the Third Path: Activating Digital Traction Control and letting the rear end hang out a little. It's not "art," but it's fun.
	Appreciate 0 Tweet Quote

09-30-2008, 11:13 PM	#2
lovemywhip Private First Class 6 Rep 131 Posts Drives: Join Date: May 2008 iTrader: (0)	agreed.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-01-2008, 12:30 AM	#3
AZ135 REALTOR 23 Rep 379 Posts Drives: 2010 Jag XF Supercharged Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Scottsdale, AZ iTrader: (1)	what exactly does that do?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-01-2008, 04:36 AM	#4
Lester Brigadier General 295 Rep 3,350 Posts Drives: Join Date: Oct 2007 iTrader: (0)	The default mode is DSC (Dynamic Stability Control). In this mode, the computer will temporarily reduce power to the engine, and/or apply brakes at individual wheels if it detects the car is about to swerve or go out of control. This is how most drivers should be driving their 135i. This feature can definitely be felt when it kicks in, and you will see the indicator light come on. One quick press turns ON DTC mode (dynamic traction control) which turns down stability control, and adds increased traction. This is used in heavy snow, rain or loose gravel or any environment where you need extra traction but you don't want the stability control intervening because it always thinks your skidding. Hold the button down for 5 seconds turns off both DSC (dynamic stability control) and DTC (dynamic traction control) but the e-diff is activated. This puts the car in 'TIM-YOYO' mode. (That's It Motherf***er-You’re On Your Own). In TIM YOYO mode, you only get the e-diff, but no stability or traction control. When DSC (dynamic stability control) is on, the goal isn't just to stop the rear wheels from spinning. The goal is to prevent the car from going out of control. The computer will use engine cut out, and individual brakes to slow the car down and bring it back in line. That works opposite from the E-Diff, which tries to slow down the wheel that's spinning, to shift power to the one that has grip. Attached Images
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-01-2008, 10:15 AM	#5
AZ135 REALTOR 23 Rep 379 Posts Drives: 2010 Jag XF Supercharged Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Scottsdale, AZ iTrader: (1)	sweet deal... thanks for that
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-01-2008, 10:57 AM	#6
mikeo Santa Fe Concorso 103 Rep 2,984 Posts Drives: '11 M-sport 328i, '13 X1 28i Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Santa Fe, NM iTrader: (3)	Good post, Lester! Thanks for taking the time to share. __________________ Santa Fe Concorso - The Southwest's Premier Automotive Gathering.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-01-2008, 11:10 AM	#7
PrimoM3 Chemofski 54 Rep 1,295 Posts Drives: '13 X5M Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: West Coast, U.S. iTrader: (0)	DTC on/ DSC off FTW! It's nice to hang the rear out a little without wagging the tail entirely and getting into trouble (especially if you're on pblic roads). Ditto - great post Lester! I'm not a TIM-YOYO kind of guy but I love ONO TITS (One Nanny Off - To Instigate Tail Slides). Okay maybe not as creative... __________________ '13 Individual Frozen Brilliant White ///M3 Coupe Ordered 2/15/12 \| Euro Delivery on 9/21/12 \| U.S. Redelivery on 12/6/12 \| Motor Dead on 7/15/13 '13 Space Gray/Mugello Red X5///M Pavement Punisher \| Snow Muncher \| Family and Board Hauler \| Roadtripper
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-01-2008, 12:22 PM	#8
Maine1 Private First Class 4 Rep 172 Posts Drives: M235xi Join Date: May 2008 Location: Scarborough, Maine iTrader: (0)	I'm with you on that being my favorite mode. You get a little slip and then grip on the hard corners.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-01-2008, 07:19 PM	#9
Dr_Jones Major 71 Rep 1,027 Posts Drives: Join Date: May 2008 iTrader: (0)	timyoyo tee shirts? Id wear it
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-01-2008, 08:23 PM	#10
raisemyrent Captain 43 Rep 910 Posts Drives: Black Sapphire 428i xD GC Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Vancouver, BC iTrader: (0)	TIM YOYO ALL THE WAY! wohoo!! not that I have never done an unexpected (oh my God my car can do this without the nannies on?!) 180... ever. I like ONO TITS too, but before the snow out I will enjoy as much YOYO as I can get. __________________ 435i Coupe Estoril Blue on Black X Drive, M Sport Package Stage II, Premium Package
	Appreciate 0 Quote

10-01-2008, 09:51 PM	#11
ben14142001 Captain 27 Rep 707 Posts Drives: 2018 M3 ZCP Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Nashville iTrader: (1)	Wow, nice. I didn't know DTC was better for unplowed snowy roads. God read. -Ben
	Appreciate 0 Quote