Confused with toe in/toe out

rod.bearings · 09-18-2014, 12:47 PM

Just got m3 arms installed and I'm confused on what toe I should do
Been searching on forum but ppl have been doing both

Currently I have total 1/16 toe in front and total 3/16 toe in rear
Mainly just street driving atm

Should the front be toe in or out?

cvc 22349a · 09-18-2014, 01:46 PM

I have the same toe specs. Perfect for a dd IMO.

DietTab · 09-18-2014, 02:34 PM

Front toe in makes for a relaxed, stable, self centering drive that wont wander on the highway. Zero toe is very neutral. Toe out will make the car follow ruts in the road and darty at speed, but provides the best turn in and steering feel.

rod.bearings · 09-18-2014, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cvc 22349a

I have the same toe specs. Perfect for a dd IMO.

You have the same rear toe too? Just wondering why you didn't go for a lower for better tread life

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Originally Posted by DietTab

Front toe in makes for a relaxed, stable, self centering drive that wont wander on the highway. Zero toe is very neutral. Toe out will make the car follow ruts in the road and darty at speed, but provides the best turn in and steering feel.

Thanks for the info, now im just wondering if i should reduce my rear toe to 1/8 or even 1/16 because my friends saying its too much for daily

is 1/8 and 3/16 a big difference? Sorry i'm more use to degrees than inches

cvc 22349a · 09-18-2014, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by krazi3azn

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Originally Posted by cvc 22349a

I have the same toe specs. Perfect for a dd IMO.

You have the same rear toe too? Just wondering why you didn't go for a lower for better tread life

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Originally Posted by DietTab

Front toe in makes for a relaxed, stable, self centering drive that wont wander on the highway. Zero toe is very neutral. Toe out will make the car follow ruts in the road and darty at speed, but provides the best turn in and steering feel.

Thanks for the info, now im just wondering if i should reduce my rear toe to 1/8 or even 1/16 because my friends saying its too much for daily

is 1/8 and 3/16 a big difference? Sorry i'm more use to degrees than inches

When the rear squats under acceleration it toes out. A little toe in counters that and keeps the car tracking straight.

AB M2C · 09-19-2014, 12:19 AM

I would go zero toe in the front (pretty neutral driving, but when you want little quick snappy moves its good). 1/8 in in the back is pretty good, unless you LOVE oversteer (sounds fun until you're suddenly backwards with no idea why).

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cvc 22349a Colonel 164 Rep 2,556 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: SF Bay iTrader: (11)	I have the same toe specs. Perfect for a dd IMO. __________________ 2007 E90 335i, TiAg, 6AT, ZPP, ZSP, ZCW, 6FL, HD Quaife lsd, ETS fmic, GIAC s/w, Dinan intake/exhaust/oc, Koni/M3 susp, Apex Arc 8, Mich PSS
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DietTab First Lieutenant 12 Rep 324 Posts Drives: 08 135i Join Date: May 2014 Location: Manhattan, KS iTrader: (2)	Front toe in makes for a relaxed, stable, self centering drive that wont wander on the highway. Zero toe is very neutral. Toe out will make the car follow ruts in the road and darty at speed, but provides the best turn in and steering feel. __________________ LSXOCET - 404rwhp @ 1600 lbs curb weight... bonkers fast
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AB M2C First Lieutenant 74 Rep 312 Posts Drives: 2019 M2C Hockenheim Silver Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Colorado iTrader: (1)	I would go zero toe in the front (pretty neutral driving, but when you want little quick snappy moves its good). 1/8 in in the back is pretty good, unless you LOVE oversteer (sounds fun until you're suddenly backwards with no idea why). __________________ Current -- 2019 M2C MT Sold -- 2009 E82 135i MT Widebody Track Car Sold -- 1989 E30 325i MT Showcar Sold -- 2005 E46 M3 MT
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