3 Series Facelift/Upgrade

[professor]

i wish we had the 123d here. would be a great car to get for my wife. actually for that matter i wish bmw put the 335d's engine in the 1er as the basis for the M1 hatchback.

then again, in the words of the great mr. powers, "i wish for a toilet seat made out of solid gold, but its just not in the cards is it?"

[professor]

ALPINE, are you my long-lost twin??

[123D-M]

Originally Posted by AlpineM3E92

Taxed to oblivion..... pfffffft there's roughly $25,000 tax in an Aussie 135i.


The 3L d TT engine would be interesting in a 1!

Hmmm that's a lot of tax also. Damn governments.

In Belgium to register a 135i costs €5000. 123d is only €2500 as it is based on CO2 output. Also GST here is 21%. And I don't know how much the import duties are but based on the fact the car is much more expensive here than in Germany I suspect it is quite a lot.

Still I'm not complaining too much as the same cars in the Netherlands, Finland, Sweden etc cost MUCH more.

Hmmm just worked out how much tax I pay excluding tariffs and import duties... €10,000! Around $18k. sigh.

[WAY]

Originally Posted by 123D-M

tsk. now you're sounding dogmatic

peak power in the 123d = 150kw @ 4400rpm
peak torque = 400Nm @ 2000rpm more than 80% of which is still available at 4500rpm

http://paultan.org/archives/2007/03/...esel-inline-4/

Relax pal. I was only joshin. I am well aware of the stats.

[123D-M]

Originally Posted by WAY

Relax pal. I was only joshin. I am well aware of the stats.

well relaxed. would feel better if the damn thing would actually arrive of course! then maybe i'll stop obsessing about it...

[WAY]

Forums like this one makes it worse too because you hear about everyone else's car arriving! Lol.

[RobLS]

Originally Posted by professor

damn, my tastes must differ from most because i think the facelift has made the 3er sedan look very nice!

Oh I agree that the change has improved on the looks of this car, my biggest complaint was always the headlights and the tail lights. Headlights have been resolved to a good extent and the tail lights have improved a lot in my eyes, but could have flowed better. I am liking the sculpted hood and the new front end. Oh and I definately love the 'non-fat' chrome lip on the grille, oh wait there is none yay!

[MikeVictor]

Originally Posted by WAY

Forums like this one makes it worse too because you hear about everyone else's car arriving! Lol.

+1

I'm still a bit miffed after being promised a mid-September delivery...

[Wraith]

Originally Posted by professor

damn, my tastes must differ from most because i think the facelift has made the 3er sedan look very nice!

+2

Definitely my opinion also, especially the tail lights - much nicer styling and looking IMO :smile:

[Wraith]

Originally Posted by AlpineM3E92

The 3L d TT engine would be interesting in a 1!

Yes, it would...chipped would see over 200kw and maybe as much as 600nm = very interesting in a 135 coupe, think it's time for a proper LSD with all that torque :smile:

I don't think it's a TT though, single turbo AFAIK :iono:

[imported_Dodgy]

Would've seriously considered the 123d if available at the time.

Given the car is my "daily", with the occasional "squirt" for fun, it would've suited me fine.

Given I'm getting around 12.5-13L/100k, 6 or 7 sounds much better. And it's not so much the money side, but better for the environment (Sorry, but true)

[123D-M]

Originally Posted by Dodgy

Would've seriously considered the 123d if available at the time.

Given the car is my "daily", with the occasional "squirt" for fun, it would've suited me fine.

Given I'm getting around 12.5-13L/100k, 6 or 7 sounds much better. And it's not so much the money side, but better for the environment (Sorry, but true)

Oh well. Next car :wink: Should be available in Australia soon.