Aussie 1M Registry

[BMW86]

Originally Posted by WAY

If all you have done is power mods on the 135i, then I can almost guarantee that the 1M will win with the same driver on most tracks. For example, the speed you carry out of a long straight makes a massive difference to the top speed you carry at the end of the straight.

I'll have to upload some footage from the drags to show the difference between 12.2 and 12.6, it really is bus lengths. I'm not sure if the 1M will be capable of 12.6 out of the box either. Btw, I just did some rough sums and it seems the difference between a stock 1M and Edwins/Kenny/Justins modded 135i is almost the same as comparing a stock 120i and a stock 135i

Having said that I've done Bridgestone Potenza RE-11's, lighter CSL wheels, upgraded rotors, M3 Sway bar, KW V2 Coilovers and about to order LSD any day now. I did all the suspension work before I started power mods too.

[BMW86]

Originally Posted by WAY

If all you have done is power mods on the 135i, then I can almost guarantee that the 1M will win with the same driver on most tracks. For example, the speed you carry out of a long straight makes a massive difference to the top speed you carry at the end of the straight.

Originally Posted by AlpineM3E92

I know it is probably dangerous of me to mention it, but.... if you wanted to drag wouldn't you just trade the 135i on a TTRS and tweak that, surely that would be more of a rocket on the strip

http://www.goapr.com.au/products/ecu...i_ttrs_au.html

300+ (at the fly) Killerwasps and 626Nm for $2400 PLUS AWD, ~4sec 0-100 (or less).

We're already doing 3.6-3.8 second 0-100km/hr without meth. I'm not sure if adding another 30rwkw or so will help our times

Agreed, the TTRS is a great platform for modding but the 135i is about 50k less. Plus I do like RWD but the TTRS/1M decision would still be a tough one for me as they're both do what they do so well.

Also, everyone knows the 1M and 135i have virtually the same potential for straight line speed, the 1M just gives you best of both worlds which is drags and track. No doubt most of us would have bought 1M's if it was out a few years ago.

[MrBlonde]

Originally Posted by BMW86

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No doubt most of us would have bought 1M's if it was out a few years ago.

Bingo.

It's just not worth it for most of us to change over to a 1M when you've got a perfectly good 135 already, but if you were green fields then a 1M would be great!

[Dec540]

I can't help but thinking of the negative impact this thread could potentially have..

Essentially you have a register of rare car's, their VIN's, user names and in some cases a partial rego.

All it takes is someone with some access at the relevant transport department to get the rego and owners address. A quick search on the user name's threads will also help with rego numbers in a lot of cases.

We have to remember that this is a public forum and whilst none of the active users on here would ever think about using the details posted for bad, it's not hard for a passer by to be interested.

I've heard way too many stories on other, more known forums where heavily modified of vehicles being stolen because pictures with regos along with details are shown.

I may be over worrying but I have a feeling these are going to be very difficult cars to replace and would hate to see a deserving owner lose their pride and joy to some a**hole!

[timbo_3101]

Good point Dec540. Similarly I have no Facebook or Twitter or any social networking because I have no friends (and the security concerns).

In any event, this thread could degenerate into elitism with all the modded 135s looking down upon the rest of us

[NPVPositive]

It's a fair point, but I would be more concerned if we were listing regos.

In reality a partial VIN isn't really any use to anyone. If someone "evil" has access to the motor vehicle registration system then they can search by vehicle type anyway.

[gazz]

I have tracking for mine so if someone out there is thinking of it don't bother.

[Dec540]

Originally Posted by NPVPositive

It's a fair point, but I would be more concerned if we were listing regos.

In reality a partial VIN isn't really any use to anyone. If someone "evil" has access to the motor vehicle registration system then they can search by vehicle type anyway.

It's extremely easy to find out the options etc. based on the last 7 digits of a VIN. It's also easy to order a brand new key with the last 7 digits of the VIN number. Plenty of guys will do it from overseas, most with proof of ownership but it's not hard to photoshop. Some will do it without the proof of ownership.

Once you have the registration number its extremely easy to turn that into a residential address. It's as easy as getting a radio with the local police's frequency (assuming it isn't encoded). Pretty easy to wait until a unit is on a job, check back in for them then do a rego check asking for street address a few minutes later.

I'm not saying it will happen, simply trying to open owners eyes as to the possible risks of posting up details on a forum. I doubt anyone would ever steal my car but i blur my plates in every picture I post online to try and help prevent it.

[MrBlonde]

Some people watch too much TV.

[BBK]

Originally Posted by timbo_3101

In any event, this thread could degenerate into elitism with all the modded 135s looking down upon the rest of us

Errr... no offense, but if anyone is being elitist, it's the 1M owners? I mean, we don't have a 'registry' of 135i owners, and I have noticed that there are some users that only talk about their 1M in the main 1M thread here. Think I even saw someone only post about how everyone stares at his car and stops traffic with it!

[BBK]

[quote=NPVPositive;10045210]

Originally Posted by BBK

Errr... no offense, but if anyone is being elitist, it's the 1M owners? QUOTE]


I think he was joking.

If he was, the emoticon didn't really portray that?

And if he was... I apologise and take it back!

[Dec540]

Originally Posted by MrBlonde

Some people watch too much TV.

I wish it were the case and as far fetched as my examples sound they really aren't. There are many stories of BMW's being stolen without any break in because the thieves have ordered keys.

In terms of the police checks. I 'know a guy' who has done exactly what i mentioned in his example to see if his car had any flags on it. It's far easier than you think and people posting up information on their vehicles in public spaces only makes it easier.

[Alpine*]

Originally Posted by Dec540

I wish it were the case and as far fetched as my examples sound they really aren't. There are many stories of BMW's being stolen without any break in because the thieves have ordered keys.

In terms of the police checks. I 'know a guy' who has done exactly what i mentioned in his example to see if his car had any flags on it. It's far easier than you think and people posting up information on their vehicles in public spaces only makes it easier.

Meh... that's old school. Nowadays they just break into your house at night, WHILE YOU ARE AT HOME ASLEEP, steal the keys and roll the car out of the garage and drive off. Now that is a worry!!

If they want my car that bad, F*** it, they can have it, afterall it's just a car, now breaking into my house while my family is asleep THAT is a different matter.

[mcmn]

Originally Posted by gazz

I have tracking for mine so if someone out there is thinking of it don't bother.

Tracking stops the majority, but not all.

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/tg-122b...r-silver-65314

And MrBlonde - this isnt a case of watching to much TV - its reality.

[alik01]

Originally Posted by Dec540

It's extremely easy to find out the options etc. based on the last 7 digits of a VIN. It's also easy to order a brand new key with the last 7 digits of the VIN number. Plenty of guys will do it from overseas, most with proof of ownership but it's not hard to photoshop. Some will do it without the proof of ownership.

Once you have the registration number its extremely easy to turn that into a residential address. It's as easy as getting a radio with the local police's frequency (assuming it isn't encoded). Pretty easy to wait until a unit is on a job, check back in for them then do a rego check asking for street address a few minutes later.

I'm not saying it will happen, simply trying to open owners eyes as to the possible risks of posting up details on a forum. I doubt anyone would ever steal my car but i blur my plates in every picture I post online to try and help prevent it.

Definitely get your point Dec. Thanks for posting.

For me, if someone in Darwin takes the effort to pull that off - I might just offer them a job on the spot!

[MrBlonde]

Originally Posted by mcmn

And MrBlonde - this isnt a case of watching to much TV - its reality.

Yes it is reality and Declan has a biased viewpoint on the relative risks because of the industry he works in (and therefore the nasty truths he is exposed to).

Do you really think anyone cares about our little shitbox $40K BMWs enough to go to all that trouble?

[gazz]

If someone, particularly a professional, really wants a car he will get it one way or another. In the 1Ms favour, maybe, is its' exclusivity. It's harder to rebirth very limited cars.

And in my own defense I have never suggested or even hinted that my car is any better than anyone else's. In fact in earlier posts I even sugested that it would be better to keep a modded 1 series than move to a 1M on the basis that it could be as good if not better, for the owner, than the 1M for less money. A humble Veedub beetle can be "better" than a Ferrari 599 if you love Beetles. There's no better or worse in terms of what your preference is.

Objective car comparisons are another matter entirely. I think it is safe to say that a 1M is a far far better car than an M3. Oops, did I say that? Err umm I meant ahh err that is umm what I really meant was err .....

[MrBlonde]

Of course a 1M is better than a 135. It's everything a 135 is and more on top. Silly to even debate it.

[JB4-335]

Originally Posted by MrBlonde

Of course a 1M is better than a 135. It's everything a 135 is and more on top. Silly to even debate it.

It's the same as saying what would you have a 335i or an M3. I know what I would like.

[gazz]

Originally Posted by MrBlonde

Of course a 1M is better than a 135. It's everything a 135 is and more on top. Silly to even debate it.

Depends whether you mean subjectively or objectively, which was my point.

Some may not like the in your face look of a 1M so for them a 135i may be a "better" car.

Objectively you may be right but you pay $ for it. So where does it end? There will always be something that is "better". Is 135i < 1M < M3 < Porsche< Ferrari < Zonda < Veyron?

It has to come back to your own passion. Even for someone for whom money is no object a mint E9 CSi could be "better" than a Veyron. Or even a lovely Lancia Aurelia or a wonderful '74 Alfa 2000 GTV or a gorgeous ....

Maybe I shouldn't go to car shows anymore.

[gazz]

Originally Posted by JB4135

It's the same as saying what would you have a 335i or an M3. I know what I would like.

I actually made that choice when I bought my 335i. I had an order on the first M3 to come here. It was only when I had a demo M3 for a day and then a demo 335i that I changed my mind to what, for me, was a better car at the time.

I would make the same choice again. Same with my 1M. For me it is a "better" car than an M3.

And before any sensitive / defensive / outraged / indignant M3ers chime in with their arguments let me say - "tough bikkies". It's just my opinion for God's sake. Get over it already.

[Alpine*]

Originally Posted by gazz

I actually made that choice when I bought my 335i. I had an order on the first M3 to come here. It was only when I had a demo M3 for a day and then a demo 335i that I changed my mind to what, for me, was a better car at the time.

I would make the same choice again. Same with my 1M. For me it is a "better" car than an M3.

And before any sensitive / defensive / outraged / indignant M3ers chime in with their arguments let me say - "tough bikkies". It's just my opinion for God's sake. Get over it already.

As a current M3 and M1 owner ..... and a SSV Holden ute for that matter, I'll just sit here and ....