New mirror pics and some observations

Swadeness · 10-31-2009, 11:08 PM

There has been some talk on here lately about the new 2010 mirrors and if they can be swapped with the 08-09's. I took a look at both styles of mirrors at the auto show last weekend and I hate the new ones. They just don't seem to belong on the car and look like they have been cut and pasted from some other larger car (same goes for the 3 series). Here are some pics that I took while I was there (sorry about the iphone quality) maybe it will help you guys compare the differences between the two. From what I saw it looks like they should be able to swap, everything the mirror mounts to looks to be the same. I also noticed that both the 128's there (one 09' and one 10') did not have a trunk lock. The '10 328 and the M X5 also did not have a trunk lock , so maybe this is a new way for BMW to save $ across their product line. Anyways I hope the pics might help you make a comparison.

emtrey · 11-01-2009, 06:34 AM

ouch..sure glad I have an 09

sunking420 · 11-01-2009, 06:51 AM

Happy with my '08s..............

Taymaishu · 11-01-2009, 07:23 AM

Yucky. Glad i got my 09!!!

new2the3 · 11-01-2009, 07:34 AM

the mirror from the inside view is massive. With thr trunk key, they removed them starting with march 09 builds. My January 09 has everything I like except the updated armrest from march.

omgwtfbbqcopter · 11-01-2009, 02:44 PM

wow, the new mirrors sure are ugly.

And I didn't know that there was previously a trunk lock cylinder on the 1 series. My april 2009 build doesn't have it.

MadMan77 · 11-01-2009, 02:50 PM

Holy Crap! It's Dumbo!

RPM90 · 11-01-2009, 08:17 PM

All I see is that it looks different, and it gives more to see.
From that standpoint, it's an upgrade.

I think the downgraded base audio system and the trunk key removal are more problematic.
BMW tried to keep the cost down by removing 2 important and functional items and to me that's a bad way to go. The keyhole may not be too bad, but it's a common function to nearly every car, especially one's where things don't work when the battery dies. What's next?, remove key access to the doors? Stupid.

And, making the audio system cheaper is a BS thing to do. This car isn't low cost by any means in it's market segment. Hell, even Kia's come with better audio systems and include USB audio hookup where BMW charges an outrageous $400+ for it.
If BMW is trying to get younger lower income drivers into their brand, then cutting back on audio is the WRONG way to go. I'd take a single temp setting HVAC to be able to get a USB hookup or better audio. Car audio is not that expensive especially when done in large scale, like in building cars. Removing features is BS, Audi does this all the time and it irks customers. Wait for the new model and then cut things out, that way people don't feel ripped off as they buy the newer model year, but get less stuff.
RANT: End.

mineo77 · 11-01-2009, 08:20 PM

you can retrofit a usb to the standard system for $270...cheaper than getting down in the factory

esses · 11-01-2009, 08:34 PM

Holy... That is terrible!

Garduna · 11-01-2009, 08:39 PM

Thank god I got the 09 model. So ugly are those 2010 mirrors >_<!

Hind · 11-01-2009, 08:40 PM

Damn, must have bought leftovers from the Tundra

Absorber · 11-01-2009, 08:45 PM

After driving an '09 at PCD on Thursday and then getting my '10 the same day, I like the new mirrors. The visibility is WAY better. There's probably at least 1/3rd more mirror to see what's behind you or on your side. Also, the look of the mirrors has bothered me 0% since picking up my car.

Also as others have said... there are far worse changes. Did you know that the Rest feature is now gone? It is. They replaced it with an All feature that syncs both the left and right climate controls to slave them off the left dial so you don't have to change both dials to even up the temperature. We also lost the 12 volt plug that was in the ashtray when they deleted the ashtray and ashtray cover.

Nicky G · 11-01-2009, 09:00 PM

Wait, where is the AUX 12V power then?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Absorber

After driving an '09 at PCD on Thursday and then getting my '10 the same day, I like the new mirrors. The visibility is WAY better. There's probably at least 1/3rd more mirror to see what's behind you or on your side. Also, the look of the mirrors has bothered me 0% since picking up my car.

Also as others have said... there are far worse changes. Did you know that the Rest feature is now gone? It is. They replaced it with an All feature that syncs both the left and right climate controls to slave them off the left dial so you don't have to change both dials to even up the temperature. We also lost the 12 volt plug that was in the ashtray when they deleted the ashtray and ashtray cover.

///M1 · 11-01-2009, 09:00 PM

These look like they belong on a X6!

Absorber · 11-01-2009, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky G

Wait, where is the AUX 12V power then?

We still have the one under the center arm rest, but we lose the additional one that was in the ashtray.

RPM90 · 11-01-2009, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineo77

you can retrofit a usb to the standard system for $270...cheaper than getting down in the factory

That isn't and wasn't my point.

escobar929 · 11-01-2009, 09:36 PM

whats the rest feature?

RPM90 · 11-01-2009, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Absorber

After driving an '09 at PCD on Thursday and then getting my '10 the same day, I like the new mirrors. The visibility is WAY better. There's probably at least 1/3rd more mirror to see what's behind you or on your side. Also, the look of the mirrors has bothered me 0% since picking up my car.

Also as others have said... there are far worse changes. Did you know that the Rest feature is now gone? It is. They replaced it with an All feature that syncs both the left and right climate controls to slave them off the left dial so you don't have to change both dials to even up the temperature. We also lost the 12 volt plug that was in the ashtray when they deleted the ashtray and ashtray cover.

You shouldn't be bothered by the mirrors at all. If my 135i had those mirrors I wouldn't have given a second thought to buying my 135i.
It's so unimportant, besides the new mirrors actually have a positive added functionality.
I can't believe that people are so vehement about how the new mirrors look, after all, we drive a car that is not exactly a beauty queen in the first place.

I mean, take a good look at the pot belly pig side profile.
Having the "old" side mirrors didn't exactly help that did it.♠

Absorber · 11-01-2009, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by escobar929

whats the rest feature?

Rest was a button you could push that would keep the residual heat going after you turned off the car. So you wouldn't have to leave the engine running to stay warm if you needed to sit in your car for a while. I would have loved to have that feature while waiting for my train on cold mornings.

twenzel · 11-01-2009, 10:46 PM

way too big...

Robert · 11-01-2009, 11:35 PM

There's a minor problem with the older and slicker mirrors. Not as well known as the HPFP but few of us had wind noise above X mph. It may be due to the fit and finish of the housing but every time I hit over 80mph it use to sound like a siren shirking next to me. Eventually it went away or I have gone deaf and become accustomed to it. This was one of the problem I never took to the dealer. All they are going to do is scratch their heads.

10-31-2009, 11:08 PM	#1
Swadeness Captain 75 Rep 642 Posts Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: enroute iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 135i [0.00]	New mirror pics and some observations There has been some talk on here lately about the new 2010 mirrors and if they can be swapped with the 08-09's. I took a look at both styles of mirrors at the auto show last weekend and I hate the new ones. They just don't seem to belong on the car and look like they have been cut and pasted from some other larger car (same goes for the 3 series). Here are some pics that I took while I was there (sorry about the iphone quality) maybe it will help you guys compare the differences between the two. From what I saw it looks like they should be able to swap, everything the mirror mounts to looks to be the same. I also noticed that both the 128's there (one 09' and one 10') did not have a trunk lock. The '10 328 and the M X5 also did not have a trunk lock , so maybe this is a new way for BMW to save $ across their product line. Anyways I hope the pics might help you make a comparison. Attached Images
	Appreciate 0 Tweet Quote

11-01-2009, 06:34 AM	#2
emtrey Captain 92 Rep 857 Posts Drives: 16 M235IX, 06 Carrera S, 335i Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Midwest iTrader: (0)	ouch..sure glad I have an 09
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-01-2009, 06:51 AM	#3
sunking420 First Lieutenant 12 Rep 334 Posts Drives: '08 SGM 135i Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Flagler Beach, Florida iTrader: (0)	Happy with my '08s..............
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-01-2009, 07:23 AM	#4
Taymaishu Banned 145 Rep 3,016 Posts Drives: I love massive black cocks Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: in my ass and around my mouth iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 125i [5.50]	Yucky. Glad i got my 09!!!
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-01-2009, 07:34 AM	#5
new2the3 Colonel 378 Rep 2,067 Posts Drives: 2020 X3M Competition Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: San Diego iTrader: (0)	the mirror from the inside view is massive. With thr trunk key, they removed them starting with march 09 builds. My January 09 has everything I like except the updated armrest from march. __________________ 2020 X3MC 2009 135i: AW/CR Aluminum Trim, 6 speed, M-Sport, Premium, Heated Seats, Ipod, BMW Performance Pedals, BMW Performance SSK, BMW Performance Exhaust, BMW Performance Grills E93 M3 FSB
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-01-2009, 02:44 PM	#6
omgwtfbbqcopter Private First Class 4 Rep 23 Posts Drives: AW 2009 BMW 128i Join Date: May 2009 Location: Grafenwöhr, Germany iTrader: (0)	wow, the new mirrors sure are ugly. And I didn't know that there was previously a trunk lock cylinder on the 1 series. My april 2009 build doesn't have it.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-01-2009, 02:50 PM	#7
MadMan77 ↓↓↓ Ex-Con ↓↓↓ 34 Rep 1,874 Posts Drives: Jet Black '08 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Yigo iTrader: (1)	Holy Crap! It's Dumbo! __________________
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-01-2009, 08:17 PM	#8
RPM90 Major General 890 Rep 7,047 Posts Drives: 340i M-sport AT Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Chicago iTrader: (1)	All I see is that it looks different, and it gives more to see. From that standpoint, it's an upgrade. I think the downgraded base audio system and the trunk key removal are more problematic. BMW tried to keep the cost down by removing 2 important and functional items and to me that's a bad way to go. The keyhole may not be too bad, but it's a common function to nearly every car, especially one's where things don't work when the battery dies. What's next?, remove key access to the doors? Stupid. And, making the audio system cheaper is a BS thing to do. This car isn't low cost by any means in it's market segment. Hell, even Kia's come with better audio systems and include USB audio hookup where BMW charges an outrageous $400+ for it. If BMW is trying to get younger lower income drivers into their brand, then cutting back on audio is the WRONG way to go. I'd take a single temp setting HVAC to be able to get a USB hookup or better audio. Car audio is not that expensive especially when done in large scale, like in building cars. Removing features is BS, Audi does this all the time and it irks customers. Wait for the new model and then cut things out, that way people don't feel ripped off as they buy the newer model year, but get less stuff. RANT: End.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-01-2009, 08:20 PM	#9
mineo77 Lieutenant Colonel 123 Rep 1,925 Posts Drives: 2010 135i,1989 PRO3,2001 530i Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Portland,OR iTrader: (2) Garage List 2010 135i coupe [7.56]	you can retrofit a usb to the standard system for $270...cheaper than getting down in the factory __________________ 135i coupe  6MT  TiAg  ///M sport http://www.rhominnovations.com www.musicarNW.com www.unitedBMWonline.com
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-01-2009, 08:34 PM	#10
esses • 19 Rep 709 Posts Drives: like I stole it. Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (1)	Holy... That is terrible! __________________
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-01-2009, 08:39 PM	#11
Garduna Brigadier General 160 Rep 4,013 Posts Drives: Sedona 1er\|Yellow S3\|NardoTTRS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Toronto iTrader: (5)	Thank god I got the 09 model. So ugly are those 2010 mirrors >_<!
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-01-2009, 08:40 PM	#12
Hind ///Mmmm 78 Rep 796 Posts Drives: '09 BMW 135i Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Tampa, FL iTrader: (4) Garage List 2011 BMW 335i LCI [0.00]	Damn, must have bought leftovers from the Tundra __________________ Current: E90 LCI 335i JetBlack - BMS OCC, JB4 w/ E85, ETS Charge Pipe, Vishnu Catted DP Retired:///E82 135i LeMans - 12.710 @ 108 MPH Riss Racing OCC, Shadowline Grills, Magnaflow Axle-Back, JB4, ETS FMIC, BMS DCI, BMW Perf Sideskirts, BMS 12/10 Spacers, E93 Front Sway PDC Flickr YouTube
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-01-2009, 08:45 PM	#13
Absorber Lieutenant 27 Rep 476 Posts Drives: 2008 e93 M3 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Maryland iTrader: (2)	After driving an '09 at PCD on Thursday and then getting my '10 the same day, I like the new mirrors. The visibility is WAY better. There's probably at least 1/3rd more mirror to see what's behind you or on your side. Also, the look of the mirrors has bothered me 0% since picking up my car. Also as others have said... there are far worse changes. Did you know that the Rest feature is now gone? It is. They replaced it with an All feature that syncs both the left and right climate controls to slave them off the left dial so you don't have to change both dials to even up the temperature. We also lost the 12 volt plug that was in the ashtray when they deleted the ashtray and ashtray cover.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-01-2009, 09:00 PM	#15
///M1 Brigadier General 275 Rep 3,164 Posts Drives: Many Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: North of 7K RPM iTrader: (1) Garage List 2020 BMW M2 CS [0.00] 1994 Audi RS2 Avant [0.00] 2021 Audi RS6 Avant [0.00] 1988 BMW E30 M3 [0.00] 2011 BMW 1///M [0.00] 2017 BMW F80 M3 30 ... [0.00] 2018 Porsche 991.2 GT3 [0.00] 2015 Porsche Macan ... [0.00] 1998 Porsche 993 C4S [0.00] 1994 Lancia Delta I ... [0.00] 2008 Audi RS4 [0.00]	These look like they belong on a X6! __________________ *2011 BMW E82 1///M: AW, all options; Renntech, Akrapovic, Forge, P3, RevoZ CF bits, many mods 1988 BMW E30 M3: Hennarot, S14, stock 2018 Porsche 991.2 GT3: PtS, CXX, LWBS, PCCB 1998 Porsche 993 C4S: Zenith Blue, last aircooled widebody, Bilstein PSS10, Fister II + Fabspeed exhaust 2008 Audi B7 RS 4*: Sprint Blue, Audi Exclusive Euro Bucket Interior, Premium+Titanium, many mods
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-01-2009, 09:36 PM	#18
escobar929 Brigadier General 154 Rep 4,528 Posts Drives: M2 CS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Hollywood, FL iTrader: (14) Garage List 2020 M2 CS [10.00] 2020 M240i [0.00]	whats the rest feature?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-01-2009, 10:46 PM	#21
twenzel Captain 53 Rep 754 Posts Drives: 15 Audi S3 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Austin TX iTrader: (2)	way too big...
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-01-2009, 11:35 PM	#22
Robert Major General 414 Rep 6,968 Posts Drives: 135i -> is350 -> Tesla M3 perf Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Socal iTrader: (1)	There's a minor problem with the older and slicker mirrors. Not as well known as the HPFP but few of us had wind noise above X mph. It may be due to the fit and finish of the housing but every time I hit over 80mph it use to sound like a siren shirking next to me. Eventually it went away or I have gone deaf and become accustomed to it. This was one of the problem I never took to the dealer. All they are going to do is scratch their heads.
	Appreciate 0 Quote