The Drive Behind Pure Driving Pleasure - Technical Information Part 1

[Augenbrauezug]

Originally Posted by jnm

LOL, who cares what it says on a piece of plastic attached to the top of the engine! As far as I'm concerned it could say 'Powered by Joe' on it, I don't really care, what's written on it won't make the engine any more powerful. What matters is the torque curve, throttle response, eventually the noise it makes and I guess way down the line (but still ahead of what it says on the cover) how much gas it uses.

The engine is fun to look at a couple of times when you first get the car, and you have to look at it when doing maintenance or checking the oil, but otherwise I'd rather spend my time driving the car and you're not looking at the engine when you're driving are you?

But what about when you park at your local Sonic and pop the hood to show off to your homiez?

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by jeeter

It could be a preproduction piece that will change. The "Powered by BMW M" looks to be a sticker that fit in the existing groove on the current production cover. It would be easy for BMW to order covers that have the trademark ///M rather than the Roundel to put on the production cars.

We all keep looking at the preproduction cars as production cars and get caught up in the details that might/will change before production starts. The mules that are being shown are really to build up excitement for the fender flairs, the ZCP wheels, the black interior with the orange stitching and the Valencia Orange paint and to tell you the truth, its working for me. I like the fenders, the interior and I really like the VO. I’ll worry about the details like what shocks are used, what the muffler looks like or the type of headlights when the first production cars roll off the line.

Me too!!!!

[jnm]

But what about when you park at your local Sonic and pop the hood to show off to your homiez?

And show them what? A plastic cover on top of the engine with a badge on it? On most cars nowadays you can't even actually see the engine because it's hidden under that plastic cover. I mean look at that cover, you can't see the wires to the sparkplugs, you can't see the headers, heck you can't even see the turbos. Heck, it could be a 4 cylinder NA engine in there it would not look different.

As for the M badge there's already plenty of them on the outside of the car if they are that impressed by badges.

I'm having fun playing the devil's advocate here of course (since after all there's nothing else to do while waiting for BMWNA to produce the information (and the cars) that we are all waiting for), but to me it's a lot more impressive to look under the car at the suspension bits or the telling details like the cooling fins on the diff than at a completely useless bit of plastic hiding the engine.

At least when I pop the hood of my S2000 you can see the engine in all it's naked glory with all the wires and lines, and when people ask me to look at it, it's to see the supercharger rather than the golden H on the valve cover .

[GnokGnik]

The 1M will need a strong tranny to handle 500nm..I heard the 135i/335i tranny's can comfortably handle 400lbft...but more than that is not recommended.

[WAY]

Does anyone know if they have uprated the clutch as well? I drove my friend's 135i today, and the clutch feels soft and weak. It's been awhile since I have driven a 135i and compared to my GT3, this feels like it will wear out at any time!

[ES BMW]

Remember that the 135i that you drove has the clutch delay valve (CDV) and slows the clamping action of the clutch to the flywheel. It's supposed to protect the drivetrain from shock but it just promotes faster clutch wear.

I'm curious to see if the 1M will have that same handicap.

[Augenbrauezug]

Originally Posted by jnm

And show them what? A plastic cover on top of the engine with a badge on it? On most cars nowadays you can't even actually see the engine because it's hidden under that plastic cover. I mean look at that cover, you can't see the wires to the sparkplugs, you can't see the headers, heck you can't even see the turbos. Heck, it could be a 4 cylinder NA engine in there it would not look different.

As for the M badge there's already plenty of them on the outside of the car if they are that impressed by badges.

I'm having fun playing the devil's advocate here of course (since after all there's nothing else to do while waiting for BMWNA to produce the information (and the cars) that we are all waiting for), but to me it's a lot more impressive to look under the car at the suspension bits or the telling details like the cooling fins on the diff than at a completely useless bit of plastic hiding the engine.

At least when I pop the hood of my S2000 you can see the engine in all it's naked glory with all the wires and lines, and when people ask me to look at it, it's to see the supercharger rather than the golden H on the valve cover .

I was completely joking, BMW could put whatever they want on the engine cover. Or was you mentioned, they could just leave it off. Wouldn't remotely effect my decision.

[antzcrashing]

I found those sweet puma gloves for sale. Not cheap though!

http://puma.subesports.com/products/...MA/prodID/2097

[Red135]

Originally Posted by WAY

Does anyone know if they have uprated the clutch as well? I drove my friend's 135i today, and the clutch feels soft and weak. It's been awhile since I have driven a 135i and compared to my GT3, this feels like it will wear out at any time!

It is supposed to have the 335is clutch.

Originally Posted by My E90

Remember that the 135i that you drove has the clutch delay valve (CDV) and slows the clamping action of the clutch to the flywheel. It's supposed to protect the drivetrain from shock but it just promotes faster clutch wear.

I'm curious to see if the 1M will have that same handicap.

Other 6sp M's do not have CDV's, so it should not.

[///M1]

Originally Posted by antzcrashing

I found those sweet puma gloves for sale. Not cheap though!

http://puma.subesports.com/products/...MA/prodID/2097

I found the same gloves a little cheaper here ($119)

http://www.frsport.com/Puma-Pro-Fit-...3_p_15392.html

In all seriousness, a pair of sneakers will run you more (and you'll go through them quicker), so it is not that bad. Just wish they come in Valencia Orange!

[///M1]

Originally Posted by Red135

It is supposed to have the 335is clutch.



Other 6sp M's do not have CDV's, so it should not.

I believe the E46 M3 had CDV, so sadly there is a precedent. Hope no CDV here, if not I'll have to reuse my current Zeckhausen modified one (so it can appear stock when serviced)

[Red135]

Originally Posted by ///M1

I believe the E46 M3 had CDV, so sadly there is a precedent. Hope no CDV here, if not I'll have to reuse my current Zeckhausen modified one (so it can appear stock when serviced)

Fair enough. I do agree, preferably it won't and save me the trouble of changing it out.