Vorshlag looking for a 1M to test camber plates with OEM spring perches

4thM3 · 07-07-2012, 06:25 PM

Jason,

If there is someone on the west coast that you would trust with the install I would be open to being a tester. I am a long-time BMWCCA Golden Gate Chapter instructor and have a few track events coming up.

Sounds like you may be set with local guys but if you want feedback from the left coast tracks let me know.

David

JM3 · 07-09-2012, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by modernbeat

..... they have the same perch height as the OEM perches.

Sorry, that pic is very definitely higher than stock. You really need to recheck against a stock car.

I assure you, it is not as easy as it looks.

M3 Adjuster · 07-09-2012, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JM3

Sorry, that pic is very definitely higher than stock. You really need to recheck against a stock car.

I assure you, it is not as easy as it looks.

I am curious how you are going to make an argument for your theory based on a photo with no scale...

modernbeat · 07-09-2012, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JM3

Sorry, that pic is very definitely higher than stock. You really need to recheck against a stock car.

I assure you, it is not as easy as it looks.

Yep. The picture is deceptive. The first tester car rode at exactly the same ride height as it did on the stock perches as it did on the Vorshlag perches.

Blue55 · 07-09-2012, 07:52 PM

Ready and waiting for an early production version!

Alekshop · 07-09-2012, 08:01 PM

Jason we can test a set for you guys ... being your dealer we are always glad to help ... I have 4 track days coming up so we can test them out ...

In case 4thM3 wants to test them on his 1M I would be glad to assist with the installation.

Here is the set of Vorshlag CP we installed on the M3 with JRZ suspension ... Definitely a top notch product !

Aleks.

HP Autosport · 07-09-2012, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 4thM3

Jason,

If there is someone on the west coast that you would trust with the install I would be open to being a tester. I am a long-time BMWCCA Golden Gate Chapter instructor and have a few track events coming up.

Sounds like you may be set with local guys but if you want feedback from the left coast tracks let me know.

David

I don't think there is another dealer out on the West coast with more Vorshlag BMW camber plate history and on top of that have sold and installed more camber plates than we have.

If you are willing to make the drive to Santa Barbara, we will be more than happy to help Vorshlag out if they are still looking for testers.

4thM3 · 07-10-2012, 01:54 AM

I'm sure I could orchestrate a trip to Santa Barbara if Vorshlag is looking for a tester. Just let me know. I could come down the week of July 23rd.

David

modernbeat · 07-10-2012, 09:51 AM

Sorry guys. For projects like this we use testers that are local to us so we can do the install. Part of what we do is make sure the fit is perfect and it sometimes takes some measuring and fabrication to finish the first couple installs until we have production parts ready.

4thM3 · 07-11-2012, 12:34 AM

No problem. Good luck with your prototype development.

M3 Adjuster · 07-11-2012, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by modernbeat

Yep. The picture is deceptive. The first tester car rode at exactly the same ride height as it did on the stock perches as it did on the Vorshlag perches.

I had forgotten to ask that , but I don't recall needing a step ladder to get into the car. ;-).

Thick or thin by the way?

modernbeat · 07-11-2012, 10:58 AM

Mark, we went thick (0.25") rather than the thinner (0.1") to get the exact right ride height. We could have gone with the thinner plate and the car would have been lower by 0.15" than stock.

M3 Adjuster · 07-13-2012, 12:51 PM

the tires in this thread look... ummm. familiar...

Here is the anticipated, fully detailed thread on the camber plate install..

MIN camber is -1.3 and MAX is -.2.8 on my car with the plates.
Ride height is essentially unchanged.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1864301

Blue55 · 07-13-2012, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

the tires in this thread look... ummm. familiar...

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1864301

No kidding! These are looking to be a great, nicely designed set of pieces. Can't wait to get them on my car!

fastauto · 07-13-2012, 03:48 PM

cost?

M3 Adjuster · 07-13-2012, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by fastauto

cost?

in the area of $529

not cheap, as a matter of fact their most expensive plate yet (see link for all the design involved) but at the rate even my take offs R tires were cording.. it's a bargain in what you will save in tire.

fastauto · 07-15-2012, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastauto

cost?

in the area of $529

not cheap, as a matter of fact their most expensive plate yet (see link for all the design involved) but at the rate even my take offs R tires were cording.. it's a bargain in what you will save in tire.

Yeah, that price doesn't scare me. It looks like a quality piece and I will be grabbing a set. I should have no problem running them on my v3's but still need to confirm.

HP Autosport · 07-15-2012, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fastauto

Yeah, that price doesn't scare me. It looks like a quality piece and I will be grabbing a set. I should have no problem running them on my v3's but still need to confirm.

V3 should have similar if not the exact shaft profile as the OEM strut to be able to use the stock upper mounts. Vorshlag can chime in to confirm.

M3 Adjuster · 07-15-2012, 04:24 PM

I put my car through the Hebron Road in Carrollton torture test on the way home Saturday. Several sets of uneven train tracks and of course a ton of uneven pavement as most of the main six lane roads in Dallas have. There are no unusual noises or issues at all.

modernbeat · 07-16-2012, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by fastauto

Yeah, that price doesn't scare me. It looks like a quality piece and I will be grabbing a set. I should have no problem running them on my v3's but still need to confirm.

The spools for the V3 are a little bit shorter than the spools we use for the OEM strut by about 3mm. Not a big difference, but we try to get the best fit possible.

Mnime · 07-16-2012, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

I put my car through the Hebron Road in Carrollton torture test on the way home Saturday. Several sets of uneven train tracks and of course a ton of uneven pavement as most of the main six lane roads in Dallas have. There are no unusual noises or issues at all.

You mean you havent been to ECR yet???

M3 Adjuster · 07-16-2012, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mnime

You mean you havent been to ECR yet???

Closed this past weekend!!! :-(((
I may possibly get to Apex this weekend or ECR should be open.

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4thM3 Private First Class 29 Rep 191 Posts Drives: 2020 M2 Comp. Alp. White Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Marin County, CA iTrader: (0)	I'm sure I could orchestrate a trip to Santa Barbara if Vorshlag is looking for a tester. Just let me know. I could come down the week of July 23rd. David
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modernbeat Motorsports Engineer 46 Rep 95 Posts Drives: Caged Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Dallas, TX iTrader: (0)	Sorry guys. For projects like this we use testers that are local to us so we can do the install. Part of what we do is make sure the fit is perfect and it sometimes takes some measuring and fabrication to finish the first couple installs until we have production parts ready. __________________ Jason McDaniel at Vorshlag
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modernbeat Motorsports Engineer 46 Rep 95 Posts Drives: Caged Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Dallas, TX iTrader: (0)	Mark, we went thick (0.25") rather than the thinner (0.1") to get the exact right ride height. We could have gone with the thinner plate and the car would have been lower by 0.15" than stock. __________________ Jason McDaniel at Vorshlag
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M3 Adjuster Banned 7905 Rep 11,785 Posts Drives: 1M, X1 M Sport, E46 325ic Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dallas, Tx iTrader: (0)	the tires in this thread look... ummm. familiar... Here is the anticipated, fully detailed thread on the camber plate install.. MIN camber is -1.3 and MAX is -.2.8 on my car with the plates. Ride height is essentially unchanged. http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1864301 Last edited by M3 Adjuster; 07-13-2012 at 02:56 PM..
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