SMG still available or what?

e90fanatic · 05-28-2005, 11:11 PM

I just spoke to a BMW dealer at Michigan and he stated that SMG will not be available in september anymore, does anybody know of this? I remember reading that SMG and comfort access will be available in sept 2005.

ogrady · 05-29-2005, 06:35 PM

Dealers don't know their heads from their ass sometimes

Seriously I trust info I find on this forum more often than I trust what I hear from dealers. Not all of them are clueless, but lots of them are. Did he say when it would be available then? Yea SMG and comfort access were supposed to be avialble in Sept.

e90fanatic · 05-29-2005, 08:14 PM

he said SMG will be made available 3-4 years down the road as "BMW feels there's no need to offer the SMG at this moment" I hope SMG is available because I want to have that instead of the automatic

E90Newbie · 05-29-2005, 10:48 PM

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Dealers don't know their heads from their ass sometimes

I totally agree, when i placed my order for my e90, the guy kept showing me the options sheet for the 5-series. Then at the end, he gave me a 5-series poster and said "here, you're gonna want to show your family what car you bought."

I wish i could tell you that i was kidding.

Nathan · 05-29-2005, 11:07 PM

don't believe your dealer. I am guessing that he probably doesn't want you to wait to order and is feeding you this BS. The SMG Steering Wheel has already started to turn up on e90 steering wheel prototypes of e90s we've seen, so i'll bet its still on for Sept prod.

1stbimmer2 · 05-29-2005, 11:41 PM

The e90 is the first 3 series to have the SMG option right? How is the shifting with SMG (on other BMWs)? When I asked my sales rep about getting SMG, he said that there is a bit of delay in shifting with SMG. Is this true?

E90Newbie · 05-30-2005, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 1stbimmer

The e90 is the first 3 series to have the SMG option right? How is the shifting with SMG (on other BMWs)? When I asked my sales rep about getting SMG, he said that there is a bit of delay in shifting with SMG. Is this true?

i actually just drove one the other day (in a '04 E46 M3) and i must say, it is a bit odd... i just couldn't get the hang of it (because i'm used to regular manual transmission.) however, there is absolutely no delay... in fact, it's almost like cheating in that it shifts quicker than most professional racers can shift.

e90fanatic · 05-30-2005, 01:02 AM

e90newbie, the M3's SMG is different from teh ones that the regular 3 series uses. The other SMG does not shift as fast and I found it a bit too jerky for my taste but since I have no choice (entire family cannot drive manual), i am stuck with SMG....hopefully the SMG is still on!

e90fanatic · 05-31-2005, 10:41 AM

seems like the SMG is really going to be unavailable because my dealer also said that BMW might not offer it. They have no mentioned about it. The dealerships know that comfort access will be available by sept but not the SMG. Hopefully it's not true

E90Fleet · 05-31-2005, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 1stbimmer

The e90 is the first 3 series to have the SMG option right? How is the shifting with SMG (on other BMWs)? When I asked my sales rep about getting SMG, he said that there is a bit of delay in shifting with SMG. Is this true?

The e46 330i could also get SMG here

Find a dealer with a SMG Z4 or 5 Series to test drive

Dont test drive a M3 as their SMG system is muh faster, and the change speed can be adjusted on them by the driver.

E90Fleet · 05-31-2005, 11:47 AM

Remember that SMG is supposed to be out in Europe in September, it may be later for the USA

Athos · 05-31-2005, 02:04 PM

The April 2005 issue of Road & Track magazine says that SMG will be available in September of this year for the new 3-series.

e90fanatic · 05-31-2005, 03:04 PM

how accurate are they? i really want SMG

Athos · 05-31-2005, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by e90fanatic

how accurate are they? i really want SMG

I guess magazines like this occasionally make mistakes but they're usually pretty good. R&T would have been given this information by BMW corporate, so it was at least the official word at the time they prepared this article. Generally, I trust this magazine more than a dealer salesperson who has a vested interest in selling you a car today rather than having you wait a few months. I also can't imagine that BMW will hold off 3 or 4 years for the SMG after publicizing that they would make it available.

Athos · 05-31-2005, 04:08 PM

Also, SMG is listed on the E90 wholesale price list with a specific option code and the sheet says SMG will not be available until Sept 2005. See the ED sticky and read the first item posted by Jwocky. Go the PDF link for wholesale prices. I think SMG is option #206 on this sheet.

JBOO · 05-31-2005, 11:30 PM

From the looks of this picture, SMG is going to be available. Just depends on when I guess

jbelec · 06-10-2005, 10:39 PM

Not that it means much coming from a dealer but my rep has been pretty solid with info. She even gave me some info prior to car launch that indicated SMG availability in Sept. That was a few months ago. Just this week she got word from Germany that this is correct.

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1stbimmer2 New Member 0 Rep 8 Posts Drives: 2003 Mini Cooper Join Date: May 2005 Location: Boston, MA iTrader: (0)	SMG The e90 is the first 3 series to have the SMG option right? How is the shifting with SMG (on other BMWs)? When I asked my sales rep about getting SMG, he said that there is a bit of delay in shifting with SMG. Is this true?
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e90fanatic Absolute0 168 Rep 5,078 Posts Drives: Has a Roundel Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: TO/HK/NJ iTrader: (6)	e90newbie, the M3's SMG is different from teh ones that the regular 3 series uses. The other SMG does not shift as fast and I found it a bit too jerky for my taste but since I have no choice (entire family cannot drive manual), i am stuck with SMG....hopefully the SMG is still on!
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ogrady Lieutenant 88 Rep 473 Posts Drives: AW 09 335 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Rhode Island iTrader: (0)	Dealers don't know their heads from their ass sometimes Seriously I trust info I find on this forum more often than I trust what I hear from dealers. Not all of them are clueless, but lots of them are. Did he say when it would be available then? Yea SMG and comfort access were supposed to be avialble in Sept.
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e90fanatic Absolute0 168 Rep 5,078 Posts Drives: Has a Roundel Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: TO/HK/NJ iTrader: (6)	seems like the SMG is really going to be unavailable because my dealer also said that BMW might not offer it. They have no mentioned about it. The dealerships know that comfort access will be available by sept but not the SMG. Hopefully it's not true
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E90Fleet Lieutenant General 1312 Rep 10,185 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Africa iTrader: (0)	Remember that SMG is supposed to be out in Europe in September, it may be later for the USA
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Athos Second Lieutenant 8 Rep 228 Posts Drives: 2006 330i 6-spd Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Francisco, California iTrader: (0)	The April 2005 issue of Road & Track magazine says that SMG will be available in September of this year for the new 3-series.
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e90fanatic Absolute0 168 Rep 5,078 Posts Drives: Has a Roundel Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: TO/HK/NJ iTrader: (6)	how accurate are they? i really want SMG
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Athos Second Lieutenant 8 Rep 228 Posts Drives: 2006 330i 6-spd Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Francisco, California iTrader: (0)	Also, SMG is listed on the E90 wholesale price list with a specific option code and the sheet says SMG will not be available until Sept 2005. See the ED sticky and read the first item posted by Jwocky. Go the PDF link for wholesale prices. I think SMG is option #206 on this sheet.
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JBOO Second Lieutenant 9 Rep 286 Posts Drives: BMW 535d Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Netherlands iTrader: (0)	From the looks of this picture, SMG is going to be available. Just depends on when I guess Attached Images
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jbelec New Member 0 Rep 7 Posts Drives: BMW 745i Join Date: May 2005 Location: Toronto, ON iTrader: (0)	Not that it means much coming from a dealer but my rep has been pretty solid with info. She even gave me some info prior to car launch that indicated SMG availability in Sept. That was a few months ago. Just this week she got word from Germany that this is correct.
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