cars and guns, wtf??

cargeek · 08-23-2008, 04:35 AM

My 2 cents worth; Sadly, my state (Tasmania) has its fair share of characters whose idea's are marginal at best and often extreme, uneducated and sometimes dangerous. I have met many Americans and visited the country more than 10 times over the past 25 years. The vast majority of them have been kind, friendly, and definitely opposed to firearms. They are proudly democratic and believe in the rights of individuals. Their willingness to help their neighbors and donate to charities always impressed me.

Australians appear to be a little more easy-going and I think we have a tendency to avoid conflict whereas Americans 'seem to' be more vocal about their rights.

We probably need to be careful about generalisations. I believe we have more in common than we have differences.

WAY · 08-23-2008, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by xa-coupe

When I went to the states the only guns I saw were in a shooting range ... but they were machine guns

The popular image here of the US being a bunch of gun toting red necks is totally off beam.

You obviously haven't been to Texas then!

I totally agree with Prof on this one. I also lived in the US (albeit only for 6 months) and spent a lot of time there in my investment banking days. The intellectual divide in that country is mind boggling compared to Australia. But geez they have some pretty smart people there! One thing I do really like about the US is that they don't suffer from the tall poppy syndrome that we do here.

WAY · 08-23-2008, 04:46 AM

Btw, when I first saw the thread, I thought it was about this. Lol. Read the last sentence of the third paragraph.
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/c...rophead-coupe/

cargeek · 08-23-2008, 04:52 AM

I would need a gun if drove that around Tasmania!

WAY · 08-23-2008, 05:37 AM

Lol cargeek. Is there a RR Phantom in Tassie? THere are a few rather rich people down there!

cargeek · 08-23-2008, 05:59 AM

I have past one driving through Hobart. We do have some nice 911's and I have seen 1 AM vanquish and plenty of nice M cars and AMG Mercs but nothing like Sydney and Melbourne. When I was staying in the West End of London I needed blinkers so I could manage to walk more than 1 block every hour! I couldn't believe the cars parked casually in the street.

WAY · 08-23-2008, 06:06 AM

London? Sigh, I feel poor everytime I go there. And there are lots of young 20 something Indians and Middle Easterners with their exotics who drive around at night just to show off. I am usually in Parklane when I go there, and it's a feast for the eyes for sure.

MikeVictor · 08-23-2008, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by WAY

You obviously haven't been to Texas then!

I totally agree with Prof on this one. I also lived in the US (albeit only for 6 months) and spent a lot of time there in my investment banking days. The intellectual divide in that country is mind boggling compared to Australia. But geez they have some pretty smart people there! One thing I do really like about the US is that they don't suffer from the tall poppy syndrome that we do here.

+1.

One of my clients who works over at UNC's school of business tells me the "tall poppy" doesn'te exist over there.

I have to say this is one of the things we don't have in our favour here.

MikeVictor · 08-23-2008, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by professor

on a lighter note (2.21 onwards if you are short on time):

Ok, so I've studied this and now I'm led to believe the USA is full of monkey's with guns.

Sounds about right? :biggrin:

cargeek · 08-23-2008, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by WAY

London? Sigh, I feel poor everytime I go there. And there are lots of young 20 something Indians and Middle Easterners with their exotics who drive around at night just to show off. I am usually in Parklane when I go there, and it's a feast for the eyes for sure.

When I visited NYC I don't recall walking around town with my jaw dragging on the ground like I do in London. It may be all the bland US cars stopping me seeing the nice ones.

WAY · 08-23-2008, 06:51 AM

No, NYC is full of yellow cabs dude! Lol. Only city to rival London would be Monaco.

cargeek · 08-23-2008, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by WAY

No, NYC is full of yellow cabs dude! Lol. Only city to rival London would be Monaco.

I'd buy a yellow cab!! :smile:

Call · 08-23-2008, 08:08 AM

d3syd posted, "...BTW I used to be into shooting myself, but gave it up years ago (I still have a collection of guns though). As I get older, I find the act of killing for pleasure more and more repugnant."

So how many times did you shoot and kill yourself?

And who said killing was a pleasure...it's work, hard work

By the way, I've never met an Aussie I didn't like. You guys sure talk funny:drinking:

Call

molar · 08-23-2008, 08:19 AM

Amendment II

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

The right to bear arms was to maintain a civilian militia prior to to the advent of a regular armed forces. I believe that the intent of the founding fathers has been hijacked by interest groups like the NRA.

Just my $0.02

jkp1187 · 08-23-2008, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by fourmicah

We just need stricter laws to ensure that many people don't have access to them. If a person can't own it responsibly and respect the rights of others than they have no reason to have one.

You're talking about cars? Or guns?

Best of luck trying to take either one from me.

Personally, I try not to tell others how to live their lives. You might experience more happiness in your own life if you did likewise.

All4One · 08-23-2008, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mattyv

Ok, so I've studied this and now I'm led to believe the USA is full of monkey's with guns.

Sounds about right? :biggrin:

Now, mattyv, i recommend that your contempt, prejudice and view to the US of A in whole be rectified. Like any country or society, we have our misgivings and i admit that. Stop the verbal abuse, i know you are a proud person or i will let you trace your roots.

larryn · 08-23-2008, 10:45 AM

Okay.. I'll admit this was likely started as a tongue in cheek thread, but it's gotten out of hand.

No sub-forum is an island. :wink:

08-23-2008, 04:35 AM	#45
cargeek Second Lieutenant 10 Rep 239 Posts Drives: Old man's comfy car Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Tasmania iTrader: (0)	My 2 cents worth; Sadly, my state (Tasmania) has its fair share of characters whose idea's are marginal at best and often extreme, uneducated and sometimes dangerous. I have met many Americans and visited the country more than 10 times over the past 25 years. The vast majority of them have been kind, friendly, and definitely opposed to firearms. They are proudly democratic and believe in the rights of individuals. Their willingness to help their neighbors and donate to charities always impressed me. Australians appear to be a little more easy-going and I think we have a tendency to avoid conflict whereas Americans 'seem to' be more vocal about their rights. We probably need to be careful about generalisations. I believe we have more in common than we have differences. __________________ E90 M3 \| DCT \| EDC \| M-drive \| AW \| 19's E91 323 18's E46 320i
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WAY Brigadier General 458 Rep 4,822 Posts Drives: Fast ones Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia iTrader: (0)	Btw, when I first saw the thread, I thought it was about this. Lol. Read the last sentence of the third paragraph. http://www.motorauthority.com/news/c...rophead-coupe/
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cargeek Second Lieutenant 10 Rep 239 Posts Drives: Old man's comfy car Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Tasmania iTrader: (0)	I would need a gun if drove that around Tasmania! __________________ E90 M3 \| DCT \| EDC \| M-drive \| AW \| 19's E91 323 18's E46 320i
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WAY Brigadier General 458 Rep 4,822 Posts Drives: Fast ones Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia iTrader: (0)	Lol cargeek. Is there a RR Phantom in Tassie? THere are a few rather rich people down there!
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cargeek Second Lieutenant 10 Rep 239 Posts Drives: Old man's comfy car Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Tasmania iTrader: (0)	I have past one driving through Hobart. We do have some nice 911's and I have seen 1 AM vanquish and plenty of nice M cars and AMG Mercs but nothing like Sydney and Melbourne. When I was staying in the West End of London I needed blinkers so I could manage to walk more than 1 block every hour! I couldn't believe the cars parked casually in the street. __________________ E90 M3 \| DCT \| EDC \| M-drive \| AW \| 19's E91 323 18's E46 320i
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08-23-2008, 06:06 AM	#51
WAY Brigadier General 458 Rep 4,822 Posts Drives: Fast ones Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia iTrader: (0)	London? Sigh, I feel poor everytime I go there. And there are lots of young 20 something Indians and Middle Easterners with their exotics who drive around at night just to show off. I am usually in Parklane when I go there, and it's a feast for the eyes for sure.
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WAY Brigadier General 458 Rep 4,822 Posts Drives: Fast ones Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia iTrader: (0)	No, NYC is full of yellow cabs dude! Lol. Only city to rival London would be Monaco.
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Call Call 21 Rep 683 Posts Drives: 08 135i, 08 & 07 X5, 05 MCSC Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Gainesville, GA iTrader: (0)	d3syd posted, "...BTW I used to be into shooting myself, but gave it up years ago (I still have a collection of guns though). As I get older, I find the act of killing for pleasure more and more repugnant." So how many times did you shoot and kill yourself? And who said killing was a pleasure...it's work, hard work By the way, I've never met an Aussie I didn't like. You guys sure talk funny:drinking: Call __________________
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molar Private 1 Rep 66 Posts Drives: Join Date: Jul 2008 iTrader: (0)	The Second Amendment Amendment II A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. The right to bear arms was to maintain a civilian militia prior to to the advent of a regular armed forces. I believe that the intent of the founding fathers has been hijacked by interest groups like the NRA. Just my $0.02 __________________ My order just got BUMPED Cancelled my order
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larryn Lieutenant General 2148 Rep 10,176 Posts Drives: '97 332ti, '21 X5 45e, '16 GT4 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Seattle iTrader: (2)	Okay.. I'll admit this was likely started as a tongue in cheek thread, but it's gotten out of hand. No sub-forum is an island. :wink:
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