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      03-13-2009, 09:04 AM   #1
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Observations on what its like going from SSTT to stock.

Initially, I was rather suprised how nice the car was to drive after removing my SSTT yesterday. I have a stop at the bottom of a hill pulling out of my development and for whatever reason the car pulls away smoother. The SSTT causes throttle response to be more aggressive than I'd sometimes like, resulting in a little more jerkiness in slower traffic. Unfortunatly without the SSTT I find myself very much less likely to hold 3rd gear around street corners as there is perceptibly less torque available below 2500rpm. And that 2nd gear shift is always a pain.

Jumping onto the interstate highway for a quick bit of high speed driving I really felt the difference in power though the powerful N54 engine still wafts me to 80mph effortlessly. What is missing is the manic impulse to shove my foot through the floor and head for 100mph. When I first installed the SSTT I commented it feels like driving in a lower gear. Acceleration and throttle are more responsive with the SSTT and the roar of my stock exhaust is a bit more exciting with the higher boost.

Verses stock, the SSTT always rewards me with unrelenting pressure against my back as the car surges through the middle of the torque band. Minus the SSTT, the car finds its way to illegal speeds almost as readily, but its much less a sensory experience as the speed limit creeps up on you. There is just a less adrenaline.

Without the SSTT, the 135i once again becomes a very civilized, fairly soft GT car, not the muscle car I enjoyed for 40 weeks. Time to install the JB3.
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      03-13-2009, 09:22 AM   #2
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Starnge as I don't feel any difference with power delivery or the need to drive quickly, for me the Short Shifter just make changing slicker and more physical.
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Nicely written CitizenZ (love the Douglas Adams reference in you Avatar BTW)!!! I am sure I will experience a similar feeling once I return and install my goodies. HOWEVER....I think I will try to do a dyno of all 3 tunes that are waiting for me (yes, yes I know I am crazy) as well as a baseline dyno.
1. stock
2. SSTT
3. JB3
4. Procede RevII PNP

Once I do that I think it will be the first time to show hard data on ALL of those tunes on the SAME car...hopefully same day or within days of each other.
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Starnge as I don't feel any difference with power delivery or the need to drive quickly, for me the Short Shifter just make changing slicker and more physical.

SSTT = split second turbo tuner
SSK = short shift kit
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SSTT = split second turbo tuner
SSK = short shift kit
That explains why I don't feel a difference
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That explains why I don't feel a difference
Thanks for the good laugh this morning!
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That explains why I don't feel a difference
ROTFLMAOMATIILRH!
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Nicely written CitizenZ (love the Douglas Adams reference in you Avatar BTW)!!! I am sure I will experience a similar feeling once I return and install my goodies. HOWEVER....I think I will try to do a dyno of all 3 tunes that are waiting for me (yes, yes I know I am crazy) as well as a baseline dyno.
1. stock
2. SSTT
3. JB3
4. Procede RevII PNP

Once I do that I think it will be the first time to show hard data on ALL of those tunes on the SAME car...hopefully same day or within days of each other.
Make sure you update the JB3 chip.
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Make sure you update the JB3 chip.
For sure....

@CitizenZ: Did you get an updated JB3 or did you have purchase an update as well?
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I'm thinking about picking up the JB +, I assume that the performance is similar to the SSTT?
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For sure....

@CitizenZ: Did you get an updated JB3 or did you have purchase an update as well?
Updates are free, I thought, and mine is version 1.23. I'm going to throw it on this afternoon.
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I'm thinking about picking up the JB +, I assume that the performance is similar to the SSTT?
Yes. The only advantage for the JB+ is its slightly tunable, vs the SSTT is clip-on-and-go.
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And let me say this, going from JB3 to stock is even worse. Ahh the memories...
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And let me say this, going from JB3 to stock is even worse. Ahh the memories...
I thought you were getting rid of the 1er???
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I thought you were getting rid of the 1er???

I was but their trade-in offer was way to low. I've decided to ride it and try again in the summer. In the meantime, I'm anxiously awaiting 1.3.
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JB3 is always a solid choice for chips, I really like your write up man.
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I agree with you about the SSTT. After you've had it for a while, you forget how much slower the car is without it, but it is smoother. I went from Stock->SSTT->Stock->JB3.

I can't imagine what it would feel like taking the JB off!
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