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05-26-2013, 08:40 PM | #67 |
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05-26-2013, 08:54 PM | #68 | |
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I think people have way different definitions of 'classic' here. The author qualifies his with those on a buget in the first paragraph: "But it got me thinking about the outgoing BMW 1-Series, and why years from now, it may be the most sought after Bimmer of our time by enthusiasts, weekend racers and hoons on a budget. Now might be the ideal time to snatch one up." I think In a few years, you won't see any weekend racers on a budget racing a 1M, but I can see them buying a cheap manual 128i, and turning it into a track day car. Right now, what classic BMW's are being turned into track cars? e30, e36 (M). |
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05-26-2013, 10:29 PM | #70 | |
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Again I know for a fact, that it takes a whole lot more then $10k to try and match the handling characteristics of a 1M. You can do all this and have it installed for less then $15k? I highly doubt it. Sure maybe if you get everything used and do it yourself, even then I will find it hard to believe. -Bigger axle for a wider stance -Upgraded Braking system -LSD -Front and rear control arms -Full suspension upgrade (coil and struts) -Bushings -MDM tuning -Steering rack... Not to mention the 19" wheels, tires, cooling system, engine tune, lightened flywheel etc... Look I had a 135i, the reason I got the 1M is because loved my 1er so much. As others have said I'm not saying its not possible to make a 135/28 handle better then a 1M but it would take ALOT of money and time to do so. It's not about each part its about the whole being greater then the sum. And that is why the 1M will be and is a collectors, not to mention its limited production. And exactly as other have said, due to the 1M the e82 in general will be a collector just as the E30 is now because of the E30 M3. |
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05-26-2013, 11:46 PM | #72 |
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I'll be the first to admit that attempting to replicate a 1M by tuning a 135i is a wasted effort, but still, there is a level of ///M-worship on these boards that sometimes escalates to nauseating levels. Phrases like "greater than the sum of its parts" imply some sort of voodoo taking place at the ///M division, the result of which is the intangible yet extremely potent ///M-ness, to which we all must kneel. The reality is that suspension tuning is science, and the 1M, like all vehicles, is actually EXACTLY the sum of its parts. What else could it possibly be?
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05-27-2013, 12:15 AM | #74 | |
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05-27-2013, 01:05 AM | #75 |
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For the price a used 1M is going for, when one is for sale, you could still come out spending a lot less on a 135i making it better than a 1M. The 1 will be a collectors car and if I had one, it would be left completely stock and driven on nice days as the value of that car will continue to rise.
Those negative comments are the douche's I see in E46 M3's weaving in a out of traffic and think anything less is a POS. All of the 1er's are great cars and are unique in their own ways from the beginning the 1 series was put into production. |
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05-27-2013, 01:47 AM | #76 |
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The thing I don't particularly understand about this article and the last man standing thread is that this car has been compared to the 2002 and some will say that the naturally aspirated varient of this car is in keeping with BMW's heritage and more desirable but isn't the 2002 Turbo more desired over the naturally aspirated 2002? Are any of these cars even "Naturally Aspirated" I thought naturally aspirated meant carborated.
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05-27-2013, 06:11 AM | #78 | |
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Great article for the E82 family! I believe you're spot on with the future classic in the making. Ride on 1ers! |
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05-27-2013, 07:11 AM | #79 |
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05-27-2013, 07:25 AM | #81 |
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Although I really like the 1 series, I wanted 4 doors and needed at least one "practical" car, as my Lotus Elise doesn't exactly qualify. When I was ordering my 2011 335i, I had a similar feeling as current 1 owners do that any newer models would be larger, have EPS, and mandatory I-drive. That's why I got one with just the options an enthusiast would want - M Sport, manual, no I-drive, PPK, with a few comfort options - premium, heated seats, HK sound system, and USB port.
There have been numerous discussions about N54 vs. N55, but I use this car as a fair weather daily driver, so I wasn't interested in 400+ bhp mods. Thus far, the N55 has been dead reliable for over 2 years (knock on wood) and will hopefully last for years with old-school maintenance. The latter seems to baffle everyone at the local BMW dealership, as 85% of the cars they sell are leased, so very few actually do this. Now, if I can just avoid some old lady in a Buick or text-happy kid from slamming into it, I'm good for years to come.
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05-27-2013, 08:11 AM | #83 |
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What a insecure bunch.... The writer praised each model, but obviously that is not enough for some.....
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05-27-2013, 08:36 AM | #85 |
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Good read.
<3 1-series, RWD + compact, great/unique design (don't care what anyone says) and a pleasure to drive.
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05-27-2013, 09:56 AM | #87 |
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They are all awesome cars and I get a kick out of seeing them all. I dont think anyone really believes that you cant make a 135i better than a 1m. Just a matter of
cost. I looked closely at 135i vs 1m when i was initially told i couldnt find a 1m. In the end, the 1m i found was a better value vs creating a comparably modded car. However, i was comparing a new 135 vs a new 1m i got at msrp which i know is rare. Obviously on the used market a 135i with mods is the better value. I do like the rarity and styling of the 1m though i know it is polarizing. For that reason i am keeping mine. Nothing i can find to replace it . |
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05-27-2013, 10:56 AM | #88 |
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Now that I'm paying attention to it, I notice that I hardly _ever_ see 135s on the road. 128s, definitely. And it's not like I'm out in the boonies somewhere -- union county NJ is a busy area with plenty of BMWs and other luxury brands running around.
It's obviously not scientific, but I just don't see them out there. Seeing a 1M in the wild is a freaking celebration! I think I'm at three sightings by now.
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