BMW 1 Series Coupe Forum / 1 Series Convertible Forum (1M / tii / 135i / 128i / Coupe / Cabrio / Hatchback) (BMW E82 E88 128i 130i 135i)
 





 

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      03-07-2014, 03:29 PM   #2597
pinkertonpunk
Enlisted Member
United_States
3
Rep
42
Posts

Drives: '19 M2 Comp, '08 Honda S2000
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Wisconsin

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Worra View Post
Just dropped by the dealer to have a look at the 228i and the M235i. I will say that it doesn't look as bad in person as it does in photos. With that said, I still prefer almost everything about the 1-series over the 2.

EDIT: I also sat in it to check out the new steering wheel. I thought it looked nice in pictures but it doesn't feel as nice as the wheel in our cars. Perhaps thats just my being used to it.
I agree. I don't really like the look of it that much. Very happy we bought the 135is.
Appreciate 0
      03-07-2014, 03:30 PM   #2598
Worra
Captain
Worra's Avatar
49
Rep
970
Posts

Drives: 2013 135is/6, 1995 540i/6
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: SF Bay

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
1995 BMW 540i  [0.00]
2013 BMW 135is  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by gregthegr8 View Post
No pics? What color was the 235? I will say the only color it seemed to look good in (to me) in pictures was alpine white.

It's interesting that some people have said it's a great steering wheel, but it looks much thinner than ours and I love our beefy wheel with the perforated leather. I think it's one of people's favorite things about the 135 with m-sport package is that steering wheel. I was obsessed with it on my test drive a year ago and just kept squeezing it. The new one looks weird and unappealing to me and the buttons, while more modern looking, don't look as effective.
I took a few pics. Pardon the quality - uploading them in a moment....

EDIT: Thumbs below - full quality pics here:
View post on imgur.com
__________________
2013 Black Sapphire 135is (526/586)
1995 Jet Black 540i
Past cars: 94 530i, 95 530iT, 09 328i, 90 325i
Appreciate 0
      03-07-2014, 03:33 PM   #2599
Worra
Captain
Worra's Avatar
49
Rep
970
Posts

Drives: 2013 135is/6, 1995 540i/6
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: SF Bay

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
1995 BMW 540i  [0.00]
2013 BMW 135is  [0.00]
Side profile, the only view of this car I really like:


The super unfortunate M badge:


Two more views:

__________________
2013 Black Sapphire 135is (526/586)
1995 Jet Black 540i
Past cars: 94 530i, 95 530iT, 09 328i, 90 325i
Appreciate 0
      03-07-2014, 03:43 PM   #2600
gregthegr8
Admiral of the Fleet
gregthegr8's Avatar
262
Rep
3,551
Posts

Drives: Cars Usually
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Los Angeles, CA

iTrader: (5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Worra View Post
Side profile, the only view of this car I really like
Funny, cause the side view looks almost identical to ours. Probably why you like it. =P

Man those wheels in both looks and that gray color look bad. They look especially dark on that one, too. Slap some 313s on there and I bet it'd make a HUGE difference.

Last edited by gregthegr8; 03-07-2014 at 03:50 PM..
Appreciate 0
      03-07-2014, 03:44 PM   #2601
Worra
Captain
Worra's Avatar
49
Rep
970
Posts

Drives: 2013 135is/6, 1995 540i/6
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: SF Bay

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
1995 BMW 540i  [0.00]
2013 BMW 135is  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by gregthegr8 View Post
Funny, cause the side view looks almost identical to ours. Probably why you like it. =P

Man those wheels in both look and that gray color look bad. They look especially dark on that one, too. Slap some 313s on there and I bet it'd make a HUGE difference.
Yeah not sure what BMW was thinking there. Those are some of the ugliest wheels I've seen in a while.
__________________
2013 Black Sapphire 135is (526/586)
1995 Jet Black 540i
Past cars: 94 530i, 95 530iT, 09 328i, 90 325i
Appreciate 0
      03-07-2014, 03:52 PM   #2602
gregthegr8
Admiral of the Fleet
gregthegr8's Avatar
262
Rep
3,551
Posts

Drives: Cars Usually
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Los Angeles, CA

iTrader: (5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Worra View Post
Yeah not sure what BMW was thinking there. Those are some of the ugliest wheels I've seen in a while.
You gotta drive it! I'd love to hear a 135is owners thoughts and comparisons. I don't think I'd consider getting one, but I am definitely interested in a potential M2. Same way I don't like the 435i, but really like the M4...just want something smaller (and cheaper).

I'll test drive a 235 in May though whenever I get my 1 year oil change.
Appreciate 0
      03-07-2014, 04:00 PM   #2603
Worra
Captain
Worra's Avatar
49
Rep
970
Posts

Drives: 2013 135is/6, 1995 540i/6
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: SF Bay

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
1995 BMW 540i  [0.00]
2013 BMW 135is  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by gregthegr8 View Post
You gotta drive it! I'd love to hear a 135is owners thoughts and comparisons. I don't think I'd consider getting one, but I am definitely interested in a potential M2. Same way I don't like the 435i, but really like the M4...just want something smaller (and cheaper).

I'll test drive a 235 in May though whenever I get my 1 year oil change.
Yeah I want to do a test drive, but I didn't have time today on my lunch break
__________________
2013 Black Sapphire 135is (526/586)
1995 Jet Black 540i
Past cars: 94 530i, 95 530iT, 09 328i, 90 325i
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2014, 09:11 AM   #2604
Worra
Captain
Worra's Avatar
49
Rep
970
Posts

Drives: 2013 135is/6, 1995 540i/6
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: SF Bay

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
1995 BMW 540i  [0.00]
2013 BMW 135is  [0.00]
Can we talk about this for a moment? Specifically the "M-Sport" model.
http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=954286

BMW has really, truly lost their way.
__________________
2013 Black Sapphire 135is (526/586)
1995 Jet Black 540i
Past cars: 94 530i, 95 530iT, 09 328i, 90 325i
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2014, 09:41 AM   #2605
gregthegr8
Admiral of the Fleet
gregthegr8's Avatar
262
Rep
3,551
Posts

Drives: Cars Usually
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Los Angeles, CA

iTrader: (5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Worra View Post
Can we talk about this for a moment? Specifically the "M-Sport" model.
http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=954286

BMW has really, truly lost their way.
I wouldn't waste my breath or precious keystrokes. And yet they won't send the M135 our way?

I'm holding out for a non-turbo, FWD 220i to compete with a civic and scion tc.
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2014, 10:51 AM   #2606
CAVU
Captain
CAVU's Avatar
United_States
149
Rep
929
Posts

Drives: '16 F87 M2
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Ohio

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Worra View Post
Can we talk about this for a moment? Specifically the "M-Sport" model.
http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=954286

BMW has really, truly lost their way.
Seems like they'll put the "M Sport" name on anything. I better consider changing my username.
__________________

F87 '16 M2 ... Mineral Grey, 6MT, Exec, MPE
Gone: E82 '13 135is 475/586 ... Mineral Grey / Oyster, DCT, Premium, Tech, HK, Michelin PSS, BMW Performance Suspension
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2014, 11:00 AM   #2607
motorchimp
I have Brimbo's
motorchimp's Avatar
11
Rep
221
Posts

Drives: 135is, X3
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: United States

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Worra View Post
Can we talk about this for a moment? Specifically the "M-Sport" model.
http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=954286

BMW has really, truly lost their way.
the M- stands for Minivan
__________________
2013 BSM 135is with a oo exhaust
2016 CB X5 Nosferatu limited edition
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2014, 11:20 AM   #2608
owen2001
Lieutenant
owen2001's Avatar
United_States
28
Rep
454
Posts

Drives: 2013 135is
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Denver, CO

iTrader: (11)

Quote:
Originally Posted by gregthegr8 View Post
I'm holding out for a non-turbo, FWD 220i to compete with a civic and scion tc.
Can't wait to see where you put your PPK badge on your new 220i.
__________________
2013 Jet Black 135is | 6MT | Coupe | #381/586

Appreciate 0
      03-08-2014, 11:37 AM   #2609
Dani_x
New Member
0
Rep
6
Posts

Drives: BMW 135is
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: WPB , FL

iTrader: (0)

Beautiful !!!!! What a legendary run for the 1
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2014, 12:00 PM   #2610
gregthegr8
Admiral of the Fleet
gregthegr8's Avatar
262
Rep
3,551
Posts

Drives: Cars Usually
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Los Angeles, CA

iTrader: (5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by RickMsport View Post
Seems like they'll put the "M Sport" name on anything. I better consider changing my username.
Hahaha. DorkDog may be available now. =P Should probably slap an m sport on that as well.
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2014, 12:01 PM   #2611
gregthegr8
Admiral of the Fleet
gregthegr8's Avatar
262
Rep
3,551
Posts

Drives: Cars Usually
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Los Angeles, CA

iTrader: (5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by motorchimp View Post
the M- stands for Minivan
And the sport? I guess driving your kids and carpools to various soccer practices and what have you.
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2014, 12:26 PM   #2612
owen2001
Lieutenant
owen2001's Avatar
United_States
28
Rep
454
Posts

Drives: 2013 135is
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Denver, CO

iTrader: (11)

Quote:
Originally Posted by gregthegr8 View Post
Hahaha. DorkDog may be available now. =P


LOL!
__________________
2013 Jet Black 135is | 6MT | Coupe | #381/586

Appreciate 0
      03-08-2014, 03:46 PM   #2613
IEDEI
Banned
United_States
1129
Rep
4,686
Posts

Drives: L'Orange
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Brooklyn, NYC

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2011 BMW 1M  [8.40]
we REALLY need a 135is driver to go and drive an M235i and post their opinions. Until then...i can't take any of the reviews seriously unless the ones i've read written by 135 owners.

the 3-series and 5-series owners reviews are worthless to me....

I am thinking of going to drive it next week....if no one else goes!
Appreciate 0
      03-09-2014, 07:27 AM   #2614
CAVU
Captain
CAVU's Avatar
United_States
149
Rep
929
Posts

Drives: '16 F87 M2
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Ohio

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by IEDEI View Post
we REALLY need a 135is driver to go and drive an M235i and post their opinions. Until then...i can't take any of the reviews seriously unless the ones i've read written by 135 owners.
IEDEI, I agree 100%! Would be great to see a back-to-back comparison of both cars. I've asked my CA to CALL ME the moment they unload an M235i off the truck that hasn't already been sold. That probably won't happen until the Michelin PSSs are back on my car... which would make the comparison a bit more 'apples to apples'.
__________________

F87 '16 M2 ... Mineral Grey, 6MT, Exec, MPE
Gone: E82 '13 135is 475/586 ... Mineral Grey / Oyster, DCT, Premium, Tech, HK, Michelin PSS, BMW Performance Suspension
Appreciate 0
      03-09-2014, 12:10 PM   #2615
Downeaster1
BMW Master Tech
Downeaster1's Avatar
United_States
587
Rep
850
Posts

Drives: E30, E36, E82, E90, F10, F80
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by IEDEI View Post
we REALLY need a 135is driver to go and drive an M235i and post their opinions. Until then...i can't take any of the reviews seriously unless the ones i've read written by 135 owners.

the 3-series and 5-series owners reviews are worthless to me....

I am thinking of going to drive it next week....if no one else goes!
As a 135is owner and a BMW technician, I hate the M235i. I PDI'd one on Friday and went for a 10mile test drive around a few corners at a decent speed, and I really don't know how to describe it. It feels like the car is trying to convince you that it's a real M car, but you can clearly see it crossing its fingers behind its back. The steering is totally crap. It has the same fake feeling as the F30/F32's (electric steering). The power off the line is decent, but feels almost identical to the 135is. The interior feels about as cheap as a entry level Hyundai. However, I feel the same way about the F30's.
Appreciate 0
      03-09-2014, 12:21 PM   #2616
IEDEI
Banned
United_States
1129
Rep
4,686
Posts

Drives: L'Orange
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Brooklyn, NYC

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2011 BMW 1M  [8.40]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Downeaster1 View Post
As a 135is owner and a BMW technician, I hate the M235i. I PDI'd one on Friday and went for a 10mile test drive around a few corners at a decent speed, and I really don't know how to describe it. It feels like the car is trying to convince you that it's a real M car, but you can clearly see it crossing its fingers behind its back. The steering is totally crap. It has the same fake feeling as the F30/F32's (electric steering). The power off the line is decent, but feels almost identical to the 135is. The interior feels about as cheap as a entry level Hyundai. However, I feel the same way about the F30's.
BOOM! strike one against the M235i! So the steering isn't even improved over the F30??? The F30s i've driven were quite frankly horrible.....just downright horrible! I'm fearful about the next generation M3/M4 also suffering from this....

i don't like the look of the new interiors either. they're too 'complicated' looking....like 10 designers built it....instead of 1 or 2.
Appreciate 0
      03-09-2014, 01:34 PM   #2617
Downeaster1
BMW Master Tech
Downeaster1's Avatar
United_States
587
Rep
850
Posts

Drives: E30, E36, E82, E90, F10, F80
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by IEDEI View Post
BOOM! strike one against the M235i! So the steering isn't even improved over the F30??? The F30s i've driven were quite frankly horrible.....just downright horrible! I'm fearful about the next generation M3/M4 also suffering from this....

i don't like the look of the new interiors either. they're too 'complicated' looking....like 10 designers built it....instead of 1 or 2.
I couldn't agree more. Everything about the interior is wrong. Doesn't feel natural or inviting, and most deff not sporty. To me, the steering feels exactly identical as the F30. It's like you can't "feel" the road anymore. There is no feedback through the steering wheel. I refuse to buy another BMW until this whole mess is sorted out (with the one exception of the F10 M5, but thats far out of my price range).

EDIT: It also urks the hell out of me that BMW will happily throw an M on just about anything and call it sporty. They tried it back in the day with the E28 M535i and the M633csi. Both we're cool, but they didn't continue that trend...and for good reasons. It was watering down the "true" M cars.
Appreciate 0
      03-10-2014, 08:06 AM   #2618
IEDEI
Banned
United_States
1129
Rep
4,686
Posts

Drives: L'Orange
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Brooklyn, NYC

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2011 BMW 1M  [8.40]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Downeaster1
Quote:
Originally Posted by IEDEI View Post
BOOM! strike one against the M235i! So the steering isn't even improved over the F30??? The F30s i've driven were quite frankly horrible.....just downright horrible! I'm fearful about the next generation M3/M4 also suffering from this....

i don't like the look of the new interiors either. they're too 'complicated' looking....like 10 designers built it....instead of 1 or 2.
I couldn't agree more. Everything about the interior is wrong. Doesn't feel natural or inviting, and most deff not sporty. To me, the steering feels exactly identical as the F30. It's like you can't "feel" the road anymore. There is no feedback through the steering wheel. I refuse to buy another BMW until this whole mess is sorted out (with the one exception of the F10 M5, but thats far out of my price range).

EDIT: It also urks the hell out of me that BMW will happily throw an M on just about anything and call it sporty. They tried it back in the day with the E28 M535i and the M633csi. Both we're cool, but they didn't continue that trend...and for good reasons. It was watering down the "true" M cars.
very disappointing to read....people are gushing over it in reviews....but I think those of us who are DDing a 135is have a unique perspective since we have basically more or less the same amount of power in a more direct old school setup.

I can't stand cluttered interiors....just looks cheap to me.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:02 AM.




1addicts
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST