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      06-17-2013, 08:48 PM   #1
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Tech Talk by Mike Miller

Check out the June issue of Roundel at page 92 for a glowing tribute to the 1M by Mike Miller, who said, in part, "The 1M is the Truth -- the essence of what BMW used to be in its Golden Years, and a tribute to that era and the generation that made BMW the Ultimate Driving Machine well before it became a manufacturer of smart phones on wheels -- albeit phones with greater driving dynamics than the competition."

I always go straight to Tech Talk when a new issue arrives. It is geared to us gear heads.
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      06-17-2013, 09:30 PM   #2
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+1 That is actually the second time he has paid high tribute to our car, but this time was more elaborate. Note that he feels VO the "right" color FWIW! Whatever his limitations as a prognosticator, he is absolutely the best reason to belong to BMWCCA, even given that they sent me $500 for buying best car ever owned, including 997 GT3.
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      06-17-2013, 11:59 PM   #3
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Check out the June issue of Roundel at page 92 for a glowing tribute to the 1M by Mike Miller, who said, in part, "The 1M is the Truth -- the essence of what BMW used to be in its Golden Years, and a tribute to that era and the generation that made BMW the Ultimate Driving Machine well before it became a manufacturer of smart phones on wheels -- albeit phones with greater driving dynamics than the competition."

I always go straight to Tech Talk when a new issue arrives. It is geared to us gear heads.
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      06-18-2013, 09:11 PM   #4
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      06-18-2013, 09:19 PM   #5
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+1 for Mike Miller; best reason I know for joining BMWCCA.
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      06-19-2013, 01:25 AM   #6
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+1 That is actually the second time he has paid high tribute to our car, but this time was more elaborate. Note that he feels VO the "right" color FWIW! Whatever his limitations as a prognosticator, he is absolutely the best reason to belong to BMWCCA, even given that they sent me $500 for buying best car ever owned, including 997 GT3.

I'm curious - how is the 1M better than the 997 GT3?

If it weren't for lack of rear seats I'd be scheming how leverage the 1M to get a GT3.
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      06-19-2013, 02:55 AM   #7
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I'm curious - how is the 1M better than the 997 GT3?

If it weren't for lack of rear seats I'd be scheming how leverage the 1M to get a GT3.
+1 on that one, i love the 1M, but there is nothing comparable to a GT3, GT2 / 911 Turbo!.
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      06-19-2013, 07:10 AM   #8
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Full quote about the 1M (Roundel [BMW CCA] - June 2013 - page 92 [Tech Talk by Mike Miller]):
http://roundel.imirus.com/Mpowered/book/vrd13/i6/p94

"Future collector value: sometimes it's obvious
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Here's the downside: The price [of the M3 Coupe Lime Rock Edition] is staggering, and in my humble opinion the M3 Coupe Lime Rock Edition is always going to be less collectable and ultimately less valuable than the 2011 1 Series M coupe in any color, especially Valencia Orange Metallic. The 1M is The Truth - the essence of what BMW used to be in its Golden Years, and a tribute to that era and the generation that made BMW the Ultimate Driving Machine well before it became a manufacturer of smart phones on wheels - albeit phones with greater dynamics than the competition.
There is no doubt in my mind that BMW has tuned the M3 Coupe Lime Rock Edition so that it will, in fact, beat the 1M around the Nürburgring - which the "regular" M3 coupe and sedan cannot do."

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      06-19-2013, 07:47 AM   #9
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I'm curious - how is the 1M better than the 997 GT3?

If it weren't for lack of rear seats I'd be scheming how leverage the 1M to get a GT3.
My thought exactly. If I can find a way to have both a 1M and GT3 I would be a happy camper.
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      06-19-2013, 09:05 AM   #10
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Mike also did an article on the 128i which was very complementary. I've emailed him once or twice and he got back to me within a day or maybe 2. He'll send his old school maintenace guidance if you just ask. It provides a good idea of his philosophys which I agree with and enjoy. He doesn't care for automatics, for instance. He discusses the weak points of various motors.
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      06-20-2013, 06:58 PM   #11
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I'm curious - how is the 1M better than the 997 GT3?

If it weren't for lack of rear seats I'd be scheming how leverage the 1M to get a GT3.
Well, you touched on one reason, but practicality also includes issue of ride height (3")! Plus 1M just as fast on street with huge torque advantage, and I figure if my gt2 (just retired) racer/instructor takes us off track backwards in the Porsche at 100 mph and rolls us, then I am having more fun at the track with 1M!
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      06-20-2013, 11:06 PM   #12
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Well, you touched on one reason, but practicality also includes issue of ride height (3")! Plus 1M just as fast on street with huge torque advantage, and I figure if my gt2 (just retired) racer/instructor takes us off track backwards in the Porsche at 100 mph and rolls us, then I am having more fun at the track with 1M!
I'm guilty of never actually having driven any GT3. And I do hear the clutch is heavy and the front in particular is super low. I have been thinking of the 1Ms gushing torque - and the likely scenario that it'd be esaier to street launch off a red light the 1M than the GT3. Not to mention the attention generating noise any high-revving low-ish torque motor has to make to gain forward momentum from a low speed. I do love having a ton of torque and relatively quiet exhaust.

I suppose the 1M makes much more practical road sense.

Perhaps I should keep the $15k I was planning on adding to the sales price my 1M to get a GT3,... and instead take $5k of it and get some coils and a mild tune and/or wheels. hmmmm

This. Is what I call a 'high-class problem.' In the engineering sense of the term, not the socioeconomic.

BTW if you are heading off track backwards - you'd rather be in a 1M?
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      06-21-2013, 06:04 AM   #13
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I'd pick 1M +... something else..
(perhaps for my girlfriend? Lol)
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      06-21-2013, 04:30 PM   #14
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I'm guilty of never actually having driven any GT3. And I do hear the clutch is heavy and the front in particular is super low. I have been thinking of the 1Ms gushing torque - and the likely scenario that it'd be esaier to street launch off a red light the 1M than the GT3. Not to mention the attention generating noise any high-revving low-ish torque motor has to make to gain forward momentum from a low speed. I do love having a ton of torque and relatively quiet exhaust.

I suppose the 1M makes much more practical road sense.

Perhaps I should keep the $15k I was planning on adding to the sales price my 1M to get a GT3,... and instead take $5k of it and get some coils and a mild tune and/or wheels. hmmmm

This. Is what I call a 'high-class problem.' In the engineering sense of the term, not the socioeconomic.

BTW if you are heading off track backwards - you'd rather be in a 1M?
It is said about Porsche owners (911's) that there are 2 groups: Those that have gone off the road backwards and those that are about to. They don't say that about any other cars (tho could about VW bugs if they had more power!), because none others of sporting interest hang the engine aft of the rear axle! My experience in the hands of an expert was enough to convince me to seek out a "toy" with more benign handling at the limit. I have slid the rear end of the 1M with no butt clench--I can't imagine trying that in a GT3, tho I'm sure there are many who could. If I go off in the bimmer, I expect I'll be able to still steer looking over the hood!
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It is said about Porsche owners (911's) that there are 2 groups: Those that have gone off the road backwards and those that are about to. They don't say that about any other cars (tho could about VW bugs if they had more power!), because none others of sporting interest hang the engine aft of the rear axle! My experience in the hands of an expert was enough to convince me to seek out a "toy" with more benign handling at the limit. I have slid the rear end of the 1M with no butt clench--I can't imagine trying that in a GT3, tho I'm sure there are many who could. If I go off in the bimmer, I expect I'll be able to still steer looking over the hood!
By the way, historically speaking, isn't Porsche "a VW bug with more horsepower" anyway?

No offense, I love bugs and Porsches too
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1M in June Roundel Issue...

Loved that Mike Miller quote! There's also a photo of my VO 1M on page 16 of the same issue. The picture (taken by my good friend Anthony Ngyuen) won the Roundel Weekly photo contest.
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Loved that Mike Miller quote! There's also a photo of my VO 1M on page 16 of the same issue. The picture (taken by my good friend Anthony Ngyuen) won the Roundel Weekly photo contest.
Striking photo, bordering on surreal.
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