Stock Ford G6.... WOW!!! and my JB Spazzed out

[Alpha Trion]

Holy moly i have heard sooo much about these cars.. then my friend bought one, we raced and it didnt only just smash me but TOTALLY ANNIHILATED MY 135!!!

I was running map 2 on my JB, exhaust done as well.

again.. i cant believe how badly i got beat..

Then my JB went spaz and 'froze' my dash until i turned the car off for about 5 mins at a servo.

WOW..

[woosh]

Yep they're very quick cars. 11 second 1/4 mile with bare mods (iirc: tune, exhaust and injectors).

[aus135i]

Base spec on turbo
270kw 533nm

[flinchy]

And try turning a corner next time lol

Ed: and they don't do '11's with mild mods' .. 11's take 800 ponies at the wheels, remember they're still 2 tonne cars lol

Can't forget te fords are pretty ugly too

[bmw1mc]

Originally Posted by flinchy

And try turning a corner next time lol

Ed: and they don't do '11's with mild mods' .. 11's take 800 ponies at the wheels, remember they're still 2 tonne cars lol

Can't forget te fords are pretty ugly too

very quick cars! and decent bang for buck.....but will look like a thrashed taxi after about 50,000kms....

[BMW86]

The XR6T / F6 motor is no joke. Bang for buck performance.

[JB4-335]

Originally Posted by Alpha Trion

Holy moly i have heard sooo much about these cars.. then my friend bought one, we raced and it didnt only just smash me but TOTALLY ANNIHILATED MY 135!!!

I was running map 2 on my JB, exhaust done as well.

again.. i cant believe how badly i got beat..

Then my JB went spaz and 'froze' my dash until i turned the car off for about 5 mins at a servo.

WOW..

My brother in law was a SA at Ford and always brought home the FPV's. We use to have a lot of fun with them. The older V8's were an absolute slug. The current G6E/XR6's are quick once of the line. I've raced a few of them including the new F6 and they'll definitely give you a fair race. About two months ago on my way home from WSID I raced an older F6 with mods and just beat it by 1 car and I had race fuel, meth and peak boost of 18.5psi.

Elee looks like it's time to add those mods in your sig except change the low 12 second pass to a high 11.

[TWD]

Fly like a G6

[Alpha Trion]

Yeah it's definitely mod upgrade time after that! And yes they look like a taxi.. I said that to my mate and he said, what more do you want out of a $50k family car? Lol

Ed do you know or heard of why my JB froze up? I couldn't indicate, no speedo and all instruments froze. Turned the car off and on quickly and still frozen. Only freed up after I sat off for 5mins for it to get back on.

[MrBlonde]

Originally Posted by flinchy

.. 11's take 800 ponies at the wheels ..

In which universe?

[flinchy]

Originally Posted by MrBlonde

In which universe?

Ooh not sure why i said that even, now i think again, i've seen a high 600- low 700 something whp one (new model) do (high from memory) 11's.. Though the fastest i've googled/youtubed (stating it was the current aus fastest full street turbo sedan falcon) for the power, was a long ways off lighter (japanese for the most part) cars of similar power.. Mid 10's i think? Was a while ago, i don't pay quite that much attention

I mean, fastest 135i here is an 11.8 with how much power? Just looking at the mod list it's got to be a decent amount, at 500kg odd lighter and a straighter power curve

Ed: i can't view on iphone, but: http://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/times/

Quick google could have me stand corrected, still not sure though :/

An (early 2000's) at 400ish rwkw doing low-mid 11's, in unknown state of trim?presumably street regoed

More evidnce of 90's ones doing 9's.. With drag slicks and .. Well not technically street legal (in fact apparently one got rego cancelled forever lol)

So from a quick google, 600-700whp in a brand new one with unknown level of other mods (tyre/suspension/diff etc) would be a mid (maybe a low?) ish 11 without too much difficulty

I stand corrected.. That's still a pretty high power figure lol

[510135]

I'm sure you could get into the 11's with a 135 with methanol,tune and downpipes and a good driver. 135's aren't that light either
And it would be nowhere near 800hp

[JB4-335]

Originally Posted by flinchy

Ooh not sure why i said that even, now i think again, i've seen a high 600- low 700 something whp one (new model) do (high from memory) 11's.. Though the fastest i've googled/youtubed (stating it was the current aus fastest full street turbo sedan falcon) for the power, was a long ways off lighter (japanese for the most part) cars of similar power.. Mid 10's i think? Was a while ago, i don't pay quite that much attention

I mean, fastest 135i here is an 11.8 with how much power? Just looking at the mod list it's got to be a decent amount, at 500kg odd lighter and a straighter power curve

Ed: i can't view on iphone, but: http://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/times/

Quick google could have me stand corrected, still not sure though :/

An (early 2000's) at 400ish rwkw doing low-mid 11's, in unknown state of trim?presumably street regoed

More evidnce of 90's ones doing 9's.. With drag slicks and .. Well not technically street legal (in fact apparently one got rego cancelled forever lol)

So from a quick google, 600-700whp in a brand new one with unknown level of other mods (tyre/suspension/diff etc) would be a mid (maybe a low?) ish 11 without too much difficulty

I stand corrected.. That's still a pretty high power figure lol

The Ford F6 weights 1715kgs according to Wiki (I recall it being closer to 1800kgs though) and my 135i weights 1625kgs as a vert and has done a 11.93ET. That's a difference of 90kgs between a convertible 135i and a F6. Maybe 150kgs max. The coupes weight approx 120-130 lighter than a vert.

I agree with nik the 135i coupe is still a very heavy car.

[RadiuM]

http://www.ford.com.au/cars/new-falc...s/spec-options
(G6E turbo)
1704kg = full tank of fuel, no occupants

http://bmw.com.au/faces/jModelCompar...=17&tab=Engine
(manual trim)
coupe = 1455
vert = 1590

I assume their kerb is without driver and a full tank also

The paperback manual for my 135 says the kerb weight of the coupe is 1560, with 90% full tank and a 75kg driver and all standard accessories.

The weights are friggin everywhere! but close-ish

[Jeef Beef]

Those 4.0L motors are absolute beasts. That being said, they pull low 13s and the F6 possibly high 12s stock, so with a few mods you should have no trouble taking him.

[Kiwi Peter]

So its TAXI time. so who is selling there 135 to purchase a Falcooooon, you would have to be mad or brain dead .
They are a tank with an engine that dates back to Noah.
Mind you they could be a colector car soon as that engine will end production next year. Still it is one of the best engines out of Australia but it has been 47 years in development Get it right then can it thats the way

[VGR00]

They are a beast and really great bang for buck.

My brother had one and when he had it in for service he complained about "clutch spread" while driving meaning the clutch pushed further out towards the driver. They checked it out and couldn't fault it. The service guy asked him at what speed was this happening and my brother told him with a straight face nce the car gets over 220klm/ hour. I burst out laughing ....

[Alpha Trion]

But can anyone shed some light as to why my JB4 froze up??

And no im not looking to buy a fast taxi lol

[flinchy]

Originally Posted by BM_125

They are a beast and really great bang for buck.

My brother had one and when he had it in for service he complained about "clutch spread" while driving meaning the clutch pushed further out towards the driver. They checked it out and couldn't fault it. The service guy asked him at what speed was this happening and my brother told him with a straight face nce the car gets over 220klm/ hour. I burst out laughing ....

Kinda semi-valid when our cars don't do that? Haha

Also, those taxis are pretty fast around bathurst (i knoww, barely the same cars..) - new commodores have a twin turbo v6 though (217kw from memory?$

[pavo335]

Originally Posted by Alpha Trion

But can anyone shed some light as to why my JB4 froze up??

And no im not looking to buy a fast taxi lol

shoot terry an email, his customer service is great. Mind you I cant think of why apart from an install/bad connection issue?? perhaps some water got in?

[xa-coupe]

Standard the G6E Turbos will do from 12.9-13.1 on average. F6 is around 12.5. Mild mods will see it into the low 12s with decent fuel economy too. What does suck is the mandatory single spinner diff. It is a luxo car not a sports car so don't expect it to turn or stop like the beemer.
Fast - Yes, Cheap - Yes, Ford not a BMW - Yes, Happy with it - yes

[flinchy]

Originally Posted by xa-coupe

Standard the G6E Turbos will do from 12.9-13.1 on average. F6 is around 12.5. Mild mods will see it into the low 12s with decent fuel economy too. What does suck is the mandatory single spinner diff. It is a luxo car not a sports car so don't expect it to turn or stop like the beemer.
Fast - Yes, Cheap - Yes, Ford not a BMW - Yes, Happy with it - yes

can't get an aftermarket LSD like the 1ers? :/

i wouldn't call it luxo either, when it's less luxo than even a 1er (albeit cheaper)... you'd have to look for a force6 for at least all leather ghia level.