1M Tuners in Sydney

[david.orr]

Originally Posted by JB4135

Very true Donald. As males unfortunately nothing can be left alone IMHO. A standard R35 GTR has more than enough power for track use and a daily but most people still go with a flash tune, Dp's etc.

Whilst we Australians do mod our cars, not many of us track or drag our cars despite many claiming to have track experience aplomb. You would find that a much higher proportion of the Americans track their performance cars and thus modding the GTRs, M3s, 1Ms etc is more common even for high end performers. You're right about us guys, we just can't leave a good thing alone

[MrBlonde]

Originally Posted by Donald

Whilst we Australians do mod our cars, not many of us track or drag our cars despite many claiming to have track experience aplomb. You would find that a much higher proportion of the Americans track their performance cars and thus modding the GTRs, M3s, 1Ms etc is more common even for high end performers. You're right about us guys, we just can't leave a good thing alone

I don't believe that for a minute. Most Americans can't even drive a manual transmission.

[Alpine*]

Sorry OP, we are getting off on yet another tangent here.

I pushed for the ESS AND zorst cause the owner needs it to drive to work

Seriously though, my theory of ESS was that it is specific to the 1M in that the standard tune is the basis for the upgrade not a complete re write or over write like. Piggyback unit. Been in the IT industry for 25 years and modding the code in lieu of emulation like a piggy back makes more sense to me, anyway each to their own.

[MrBlonde]

Originally Posted by AlpineM3E92

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my theory of ESS was that it is specific to the 1M in that the standard tune is the basis for the upgrade not a complete re write or over write like
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But the N54 hardware is identical ...

[BMW86]

Originally Posted by Donald

I'm not a hater but find myself asking why. Why are we tuning or remapping the 1M already? Have we pushed our 1M to its limit on the track and needing more? I can understand exhaust, suspension, tyres etc, but seems strange that there's so much talk about tuning the 1M when stock engine is obviously sufficient for any type of spirited driving off track. It's not like E9X M3 owners who may need to get a bit more early zip out of theirs. Yes, I understand modding car is an addiction and unless you do everything within affordability, it's never completely what you would like it to be... but tuning the 1M for road use?

It all makes sense once you've sat behind the wheel in stock and tuned versions. There is more power everywhere and loads more torque. The real question is "why not tune it?"

BMW have 3 different tunes for the N54 already.

[JB4-335]

OP got more info than he bargained for. Enjoy the gob emack.

[david.orr]

Originally Posted by BMW86

It all makes sense once you've sat behind the wheel in stock and tuned versions. There is more power everywhere and loads more torque. The real question is "why not tune it?"

BMW have 3 different tunes for the N54 already.

Fair points. Will shout up until I drive mine or maybe someone is willing to share a drive

Originally Posted by AlpineM3E92

Sorry OP, we are getting off on yet another tangent here.
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Sorry my bad.

Originally Posted by MrBlonde

I don't believe that for a minute. Most Americans can't even drive a manual transmission.

Kenny, I wasn't referring to 1M in particular but a larger proportion of car nuts in US track their cars esp the crappy US built ones (sorry to fellow addicts in US)

[BBK]

Originally Posted by Donald

I'm not a hater but find myself asking why. Why are we tuning or remapping the 1M already? Have we pushed our 1M to its limit on the track and needing more? I can understand exhaust, suspension, tyres etc, but seems strange that there's so much talk about tuning the 1M when stock engine is obviously sufficient for any type of spirited driving off track. It's not like E9X M3 owners who may need to get a bit more early zip out of theirs. Yes, I understand modding car is an addiction and unless you do everything within affordability, it's never completely what you would like it to be... but tuning the 1M for road use?

IMO, you can use power more and it's safer to do so on the roads than say suspension/tyres (especially on a 1M). Upgrading suspension or tyres on a 1M over more power seems like a waste to me because a) it's more expensive, b) you can't use its limit as often as power and c) if anything on the 1M was lacking, it is its power compared to the rest of it.

[emack]

So am I correct in saying that we only have 1 trustworthy after market shop in Sydney being Peter at Advan Performance??

[MrBlonde]

Originally Posted by emack

So am I correct in saying that we only have 1 trustworthy after market shop in Sydney being Peter at Advan Performance??

There are several BMW workshops in Sydney. The only one I know about that has done lots of aftermarket modifications on 135s is Advan performance.

Any competent workshop should be able to perform most common mods. But you pay them to work out how it all goes for the first time. At Advan they have done it many times, so they do it faster. That means less labour hours you pay for.

[MrBlonde]

Originally Posted by ianf

That sounds like a comment to get 1M owners fired up

Depends how you define a track car. I think in this context it defined as a daily driver which is track capable. Either way it isn't a 'bloated pig'!

That's not my intention; I think a 1M is an awesome street car!

It's far too heavy to be an effective track car. Take one to a weightscale and you'll see what I mean. There are no BMWs that are remotely track ready as a factory car.

Now if you were to gut a 1M you'd get closer to what's needed, and then that wider track etc would come in quite handy.

[alik01]

Originally Posted by MrBlonde

That's not my intention; I think a 1M is an awesome street car!

It's far too heavy to be an effective track car. Take one to a weightscale and you'll see what I mean. There are no BMWs that are remotely track ready as a factory car.

Now if you were to gut a 1M you'd get closer to what's needed, and then that wider track etc would come in quite handy.

Having tracked the 1M & GT3 back to back, I am extremely inclined to agree.

[05C4R]

stock 1m does every day driving, road trips and track days extremely well for 110k and that just doesn't sit well with some

And i still don't know if modifying it gains much, its already a bit of a widow maker stock

[gazz]

Has anyone tried a race shop to tweek their car? Garry Mennell at On track Motorsport has prepared the BMWs that run in the Bathurst 12 hour.

Rather than chucking on a set of coils and an off the shelf tune etc etc, why not take your car to this guy and have him set up the car to be the best it can be?

Has anyone tried this path?

[MrBlonde]

Originally Posted by gazz

Has anyone tried a race shop to tweek their car? Garry Mennell at On track Motorsport has prepared the BMWs that run in the Bathurst 12 hour.

Rather than chucking on a set of coils and an off the shelf tune etc etc, why not take your car to this guy and have him set up the car to be the best it can be?

Has anyone tried this path?

Gazz I suspect anyone willing to gut a 1M and fit up decent suspension would probably start with a GT3.

Unless there are some factory backed 1M touring car types it will take a few years before people start really seeing what the chassis offers.

[gazz]

Originally Posted by MrBlonde

Gazz I suspect anyone willing to gut a 1M and fit up decent suspension would probably start with a GT3.

Unless there are some factory backed 1M touring car types it will take a few years before people start really seeing what the chassis offers.

Sorry if I was unclear - I didn't mean turn it into a race car, what I meant was to have it running as best it can with alignment, camber setup, clutch, brakes, gearbox all working at their optimal potential in stock form.

A bit like when an engine is fully balanced; it can be perfectly stock in specification yet run much better than as delivered from the factory.

Anyway, just a thought and I doubt anyone would do it anyway when for less money they have a big HP gain with an off the shelf tune and put up with the rough edges.

[sparoz]

Originally Posted by Donald

I'm not a hater but find myself asking why. Why are we tuning or remapping the 1M already? Have we pushed our 1M to its limit on the track and needing more? I can understand exhaust, suspension, tyres etc, but seems strange that there's so much talk about tuning the 1M when stock engine is obviously sufficient for any type of spirited driving off track. It's not like E9X M3 owners who may need to get a bit more early zip out of theirs. Yes, I understand modding car is an addiction and unless you do everything within affordability, it's never completely what you would like it to be... but tuning the 1M for road use?

It is the easiest mod.

Everyone tracks for different reasons. Advevo prefers the 1m over his porches because he reckons it is more fun. His mods are mainly reducing the 1m 's weight. Target - 1300kg. One of his first mods.

I mod for another reason too. ESS is just a starting point - I would consider a race ECU when the time comes.

[UR25IO]

Originally Posted by MrBlonde

Advan Performance owned by Peter Hopkins.

02 9648 3366

ummm Peter Hopkins!! i wonder if he is related to my boss Kerry Hopkins??