OT: Accord / Accord Euro?

[dh58]

What's good about these? Are they fast? Turbod or something?

[TimMc]

Urgh no.
I believe the "Accord Euro" is a high quality and well regarded Japanese built 4 cylinder sedan and the "Accord V6" is a Thai built vehicle that isn't held in as high regard as the Euro.

[ND40oz]

The Euro Accord/TSX is pretty quick, wouldn't call it fast though. Handles well enough for a sedan and as long as you don't mind reving the K24, it does a good job of moving it around. I've heard good things about the diesel Type S, but I've driven one.

The NA/Asia Accord with the V6 is faster in straight line speed, but it also has an extra 70 hp or so. It's quite a bit larger (the sedan actually falls into the full size category in the US) but it's not a bad drive for a larger sedan/coupe. As with most Honda's, they're both FWD.

[Jeef Beef]

They are not fast. They do not have turbos. They fall into the same category as the Toyota Camry.

That being said however, the Accord Euro is an excellent choice for a mid/full sized sedan. It's right up there with the Mazda 6 in terms of dynamics and quality. If you're looking for a reliable, cheap family hauler then the Accord is a great choice. The K24 is a sweet unit as well.

Still, you have to keep in mind that it's not in the same league as our 1ers. Wouldn't call them terrible cars though.

[dh58]

Thanks guys, now I know. I was asking because I had one trying to give me a hard time today and was being a total dick.

[MikeinAlexandria]

Heh, Accord Euro? That is an Acura TSX in the US. A friend has one, it is a glitzed up Accord, but the suspension is pretty squishy and the brakes just don't cut it. To get the car to run like a BMW, you'd spend maybe $10,000 - $15000, so it makes more sense to just buy a CPO 128i and move on.

[Jeef Beef]

Originally Posted by MikeinAlexandria

Heh, Accord Euro? That is an Acura TSX in the US. A friend has one, it is a glitzed up Accord, but the suspension is pretty squishy and the brakes just don't cut it. To get the car to run like a BMW, you'd spend maybe $10,000 - $15000, so it makes more sense to just buy a CPO 128i and move on.

Yeh I do believe they are sold as an upmarket Acura over there in the US. Here, we get both the US spec Accord (with the V6 and very squishy suspension) and the Accord 'Euro' JDM spec under the same Honda badge. The suspension tune is different for us I believe, since the car has been universally praised for its overall handling and dynamics. Get it with the 6speed and it's not a bad drive.

Plus, it is about half the price of a 125i, and a Japanese family hauler is not really comparable to a German coupe.

dh58 mate how is it possible that a 4 banger Honda sedan could give your twin-turbo monster trouble?

[dh58]

Originally Posted by Jeef Beef

dh58 mate how is it possible that a 4 banger Honda sedan could give your twin-turbo monster trouble?

lol.. cause he came speeding past me out of a round about.. i was in the left and he was in the right.. my lane was ending..

and i couldn't lose.. thats why lol


ps. i didn't lose even though he was in front of me by a car length.. and by the end (30m? I was infront by 2.. lol)

[banglemangle]

Originally Posted by Jeef Beef

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Plus, it is about half the price of a 125i, and a Japanese family hauler is not really comparable to a German coupe.

So true. The Japanese cars seem to be reliable and comfortable!

[xa-coupe]

agree with the camry comment.
They are automotive whitegoods.

['fatboy']

My inlaws and parents both own the 1st and 2nd gen Accord Euro respectively. While they are in no way red light weapons or anything of this sort; their bang for your buck in terms of 'goodies' and non performance specs far outweighs many other cars for the price.

My Dad was surprised to see how little standard luxury specs my 135i has in comparison to something costing half the price.

[Taymaishu]

Originally Posted by 'fatboy'

My inlaws and parents both own the 1st and 2nd gen Accord Euro respectively. While they are in no way red light weapons or anything of this sort; their bang for your buck in terms of 'goodies' and non performance specs far outweighs many other cars for the price.

My Dad was surprised to see how little standard luxury specs my 135i has in comparison to something costing half the price.

Exactly - I think we're looking at two completely different market. The 135, in particular, is built for performance - we all know that. And BMW have done a great job in achieving what it's built for (although bangle may disagree! )

While having not driven an Accord Euro, I do have a work colleague that has one and she swears by them. I think Honda have done a great job in their offering as an alternative to the small executive sedan market at a great price. If I was in that market, it would certainly be an option for value-for-money.

[woosh]

That's the reason why the Honda tuning scene is so huge. Their engine's have great potential; even stock they are relatively quick. Take this K24 equipped Civic for example... laps Eastern Creek in 1:38

[Taymaishu]

Originally Posted by woosh

That's the reason why the Honda tuning scene is so huge. Their engine's have great potential; even stock they are relatively quick. Take this K24 equipped Civic for example... laps Eastern Creek in 1:38

REVS TO OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

....rpm

[Jeef Beef]

Originally Posted by Taymaishu

REVS TO OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

....rpm

VTEC engines scream like little girls.