Anyone else ever wish their 135 was Xdrive?

yllwwgn · 03-26-2015, 03:48 PM

I've had my 135 for quite a while now, and I absolutely LOVE IT... but from day one of me punching it from a dead stop I have wished it was AWD/Xdrive (lucky M235 drivers). It's hard sometimes to find that perfect balance between an great launch and wheelspin... and depending on power mods, that's an even bigger issue.

Anyway, anyone else ever share the same sentiment?

Suit on and ready

Gray_Panther · 03-26-2015, 03:53 PM

No. Not enough power in the 128i to pose a threat like that haha

rpsco · 03-26-2015, 04:03 PM

If the M2 xDrive is produced, I'll try my hardest to own one.

Cavpilot2k · 03-26-2015, 04:11 PM

No. Back when I got it 3 years ago, I wishes it was made in X-Drive, but by now I have fallen in love with RWD again. And it even does great in New England snow with proper tires.

MightyMouseTech · 03-26-2015, 04:12 PM

They will never build an M x-drive. There is a reason for that.

Converted1 · 03-26-2015, 04:29 PM

No. The most oversold feature by the auto industry is awd.

"punching it from a dead stop"

With all due respect, what were you hoping for when you bought a German road car? If you like drag racing, practice feathering the clutch pedal out (if you have one of those).

Sorry you did say you had your suit on.

mr.fabulous · 03-26-2015, 04:39 PM

How much snow do you get in Arizona?

aloksatoor · 03-26-2015, 04:45 PM

For drag racing, your anyways gonna squat the car on throttle and put more weight on the rears, awd wouldn't really help except on rally type stages. And I would never buy a awd bmw, they steer awful, might as well get a quattro then.

davis449 · 03-26-2015, 05:04 PM

No. I came from powerful AWD and I loved that car for what it is. This car, however, is NOT that car. They way it's balanced and setup, AWD has no place here, even with it's much maligned shortcomings (i.e. e-diff). That doesn't mean I don't miss some of my former car's driving characteristics, it just means I don't believe AWD has a place on this particular car.

yllwwgn · 03-26-2015, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

They will never build an M x-drive. There is a reason for that.

Absolutely, nor should they ever either!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Converted1

No. The most oversold feature by the auto industry is awd.

"punching it from a dead stop"

With all due respect, what were you hoping for when you bought a German road car? If you like drag racing, practice feathering the clutch pedal out (if you have one of those).

Sorry you did say you had your suit on.

Ha ha, no worries here... agree as well, not my 1st BMW either. Mine is a DCT and I normally drive stick but the DCT was some technology I wanted to mess with for a few years.

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Originally Posted by mr.fabulous

How much snow do you get in Arizona?

Sadly very little (up north anyway), but man I DO miss that stuff

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Originally Posted by aloksatoor

For drag racing, your anyways gonna squat the car on throttle and put more weight on the rears, awd wouldn't really help except on rally type stages. And I would never buy a awd bmw, they steer awful, might as well get a quattro then.

As much as a rewarding launch can be, sometimes it would be nice to simply have the additional front traction as well (think GTR) that's all. I know we can't have it ALL, no worries

When I had a modded WRX years ago I got tired of "too much traction" if that makes sense, and went back to RWD with an e46 330 stick, which was a blast but low on "grunt". The 135 is awesome and checks all the boxes... except for 5% of the time when I want to grow a mullett and pretend to be a blown Fox body Mustang on drag radials.

3002 tii · 03-26-2015, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

They will never build an M x-drive. There is a reason for that.

They already have when you count the X5/6 M

And not to mention head of M division (former Audi exec) stated its very well possible:

So it shouldn't be a surprise that when Auto Express asked van Meel about all-wheel drive on the next M5, he replied, "If we continue the power increases in the future... then probably the next generation M5 and M6 will have so much torque and power that we need to think about those solutions."

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/01/14/n...l-wheel-drive/

Downeaster1 · 03-26-2015, 08:03 PM

You know they built an F10 M5 xDrive right? It was a one-off, but still.

MightyMouseTech · 03-27-2015, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3002 tii

They already have when you count the X5/6 M

Luckily I don't count SUV's as real M cars.

Instead of giving them more power, maybe they should focus on making them lighter instead. Win-win!

Zombie1 · 03-27-2015, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

They will never build an M x-drive. There is a reason for that.

They already our in the works for an AWD M5

MightyMouseTech · 03-27-2015, 09:00 AM

Electric power steering.

AWD.

What's next?

3002 tii · 03-27-2015, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

Electric power steering.

AWD.

What's next?

M hovercraft

MightyMouseTech · 03-27-2015, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 3002 tii

M hovercraft

Guess they won't be able to get rid of the run flats.

yllwwgn · 03-27-2015, 10:27 AM

Ferrari and Porsche do well with AWD... I'm far from opposed to it. Take a system that sends 80-99% of the bias towards the rear, and I bet alot of folks who "swear by RWD" (not a jab, this includes myself) would find the driving experience no different than what they felt in their E46 M3.

Now if we're talking a driving experience closer to an E30 M3, than that invloves just a much more raw and mechanical experience in general, without about 600lbs ot today's electronics, safety gear, comfort, etc... but I digress.

AWD I'm open to... hovercrafts are for folks who want to take their swamp boats out on the road, and for GIJOE villans!

hlmiii · 03-27-2015, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 3002 tii

M hovercraft

lmao

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Solo_M_Tech · 03-27-2015, 11:11 AM

I can honestly say Im glad the 1er is RWD. With that said, I plan on buying an Evo for a DD once I return to the U.S.

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Freon · 03-27-2015, 11:43 AM

Nope. Came from an STI and I specifically wanted a RWD car for better balance. STI was great, but it had a lot of push and understeer. The BMW is a lot more satisfying to drive.

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Converted1 Wolfsburg to Munich 75 Rep 294 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Convertible M-Sport Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Westchester Co. NY iTrader: (1)	No. The most oversold feature by the auto industry is awd. "punching it from a dead stop" With all due respect, what were you hoping for when you bought a German road car? If you like drag racing, practice feathering the clutch pedal out (if you have one of those). Sorry you did say you had your suit on.
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aloksatoor Second Lieutenant 21 Rep 232 Posts Drives: Carrera S PDK Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Walnut Creek, CA iTrader: (0)	For drag racing, your anyways gonna squat the car on throttle and put more weight on the rears, awd wouldn't really help except on rally type stages. And I would never buy a awd bmw, they steer awful, might as well get a quattro then.
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yllwwgn Lieutenant 170 Rep 445 Posts Drives: 2018 X3 M40i Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Milky Way, Earth, North America, Arizona more specifically. iTrader: (0)	Ferrari and Porsche do well with AWD... I'm far from opposed to it. Take a system that sends 80-99% of the bias towards the rear, and I bet alot of folks who "swear by RWD" (not a jab, this includes myself) would find the driving experience no different than what they felt in their E46 M3. Now if we're talking a driving experience closer to an E30 M3, than that invloves just a much more raw and mechanical experience in general, without about 600lbs ot today's electronics, safety gear, comfort, etc... but I digress. AWD I'm open to... hovercrafts are for folks who want to take their swamp boats out on the road, and for GIJOE villans! __________________ "Since light travels faster than sound, some people appear bright until you hear them speak". Last edited by yllwwgn; 03-27-2015 at 11:32 AM..
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