Where is the Temperature Gauge

[Thunderguts]

Originally Posted by Esteban

The poster in the link below says he has a trunk keyhole in his '09 1er, so maybe BMW stopped putting a trunk keyhole in the 1 series in 2010.

Any 2010 owners want to chime in?

https://www.1addicts.com/forums/show...59&postcount=8

Mine was made in June, 2009 and I don't have one.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Thunderguts

Mine was made in June, 2009 and I don't have one.

So does that mean it's a Model Year 2010? With a build date in 2009? If so, then we know BMW stopped the trunk keyhole in MY2010. Yes?

Edit: was posting on my phone. Now on my laptop, I see that it says your 1er is a 2009 (assuming that means Model Year). That's confusing because the owner in my link above says he has an '09 with the trunk keyhole.

[Thunderguts]

Originally Posted by Esteban

So does that mean it's a Model Year 2010? With a build date in 2009? If so, then we know BMW stopped the trunk keyhole in MY2010. Yes?

Edit: was posting on my phone. Now on my laptop, I see that it says your 1er is a 2009 (assuming that means Model Year). That's confusing because the owner in my link above says he has an '09 with the trunk keyhole.

Yep, mine is a MY 2009 that also rolled off the assembly line in 2009.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Thunderguts

Yep, mine is a MY 2009 that also rolled off the assembly line in 2009.

Ok, then maybe BMW changed from keyhole to no keyhole in the trunk on the 1 series sometime in the middle of MY2009.

[andysantoro]

My 09 135 was built 7/23/09, and shows 08/09 on the door jam. No trunk keyhole

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by andysantoro

My 09 135 was built 7/23/09, and shows 08/09 on the door jam. No trunk keyhole

Yep, now it's making sense. lol

[Gangplank]

Probably an LCI thing... Guessing 2011's got key hole delete.

[chris_flies]

Originally Posted by BMWCCA1

It seems 2008 may be the only year with the trunk key-hole. Any 2009 owners care to look?

Most modern temperature gauges are really nothing more than idiot lights. They are buffered not to react too quickly and scare the driver. They relentlessly maintain their mid-position no matter what the temperature or season. By the time they get into the red, it's too late anyway. This has been the case in most European cars for several decades.

Would I like to have a temp gauge? Sure!
Secretary's car? I believe dear friend Satch once called the Z4 the hairdresser's car . . .just before he bought one!

2009 here, key hole present. 10/08 build.

The oil temp gauge isn't buffered, it reads correctly.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Gangplank

Probably an LCI thing... Guessing 2011's got key home delete.

Has nothing to do with LCI. And don't you know if your own car has a trunk key hole?

Are you PUI again?

[Gangplank]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Has nothing to do with LCI. And don't you know if your own car has a trunk key hole?

Are you PUI again?

2011 135i - 9/2010 build. No key hole. Like I said, I think with the LCI it disappeared.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Gangplank

9/2010 build. No key hole.

[Esteban]

Yes, some things changed in 2011, but the LCI year for the 1 series was 2012, not 2011.

https://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=466003

I believe the trunk keyhole in the 1 series ended sometime in the middle of MY2009.

[Gangplank]

Originally Posted by Esteban

Yes, some things changed in 2011, but the LCI year for the 1 series was 2012, not 2011.

https://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=466003

I believe the trunk keyhole in the 1 series ended sometime in the middle of MY2009.

Pretty sure LCI was 2011. Otherwise I have a unicorn.

"In 2011, the E82 1 Series received the well-deserved LCI treatment, which included some subtle visual changes to the car' exterior styling and some important updates in terms of powertrain and technology. The N54 unit powering the pre-LCI 135i Coupe was replaced by the newer N55 engine."

https://www.bmwblog.com/2020/08/30/b...-buyers-guide/

https://skiddmark.com/2010/12/bmw-an...d-convertible/


I'm pretty sure we can agree my 2011 135i w/ n55 and DCT qualifies as LCI. I think the only thing my 2011 didn't get was the LCI tail lights but mine are the LED triple light tubes which I actually prefer on my space gray 1er.

https://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=813872

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by Gangplank

Pretty sure LCI was 2011. Otherwise I have a unicorn.

"In 2011, the E82 1 Series received the well-deserved LCI treatment, which included some subtle visual changes to the car' exterior styling and some important updates in terms of powertrain and technology. The N54 unit powering the pre-LCI 135i Coupe was replaced by the newer N55 engine."

https://www.bmwblog.com/2020/08/30/b...-buyers-guide/

https://skiddmark.com/2010/12/bmw-an...d-convertible/


I'm pretty sure we can agree my 2011 135i w/ n55 and DCT qualifies as LCI. I think the only thing my 2011 didn't get was the LCI tail lights but mine are the LED triple light tubes which I actually prefer on my space gray 1er.

https://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=813872

I think you need to look at your links more closely:

In your BMWblog link, where you quoted "In 2011, the E82 1 Series received the well-deserved LCI treatment, which included some subtle visual changes to the car' exterior styling and some important updates in terms of powertrain and technology. The N54 unit powering the pre-LCI 135i Coupe was replaced by the newer N55 engine. In August 2013, production of the first-and-last ever 1 Series Coupe ceased, as the all-new 2 Series Coupe (F22) got unveiled," it actually talks about the 3 series getting "the well-deserved LCI treatment," then it talks about the M2 getting the "newer N55 engine."

Later in your BMWblog link, it says "As you already know, no M variant was offered for the 1 Series Convertible. Like in the case of the E82 model, the E88 open-top also received the LCI refreshment in 2011, which meant a sharper styling, new infotainment technology (BMW CIC) and more efficient powertrains. The one-and-only 1 Series Convertible marched on until June 2013, when production officially ended," but where it says "the E88 open-top also received the LCI refreshment in 2011," again it talks about the 3 series.

In your skiddmark link, it actually shows pictures of the 2012 1 series. Check out the headlights with the eyebrows, from the 2012 cars (you know that is not a 2011 model). It also mentions the N55 and the DCT and I think that is part of your confusion, since both years (2011, 2012) got the new engine and transmission. Of course 2013 got those as well.

You say "I think the only thing my 2011 didn't get was the LCI tail lights but mine are the LED triple light tubes which I actually prefer on my space gray 1er." It also doesn't have the LCI headlights with the eyebrows, that started in 2012, like I mention above.

Your last link from 1addicts just shows the 3 different taillights: pre-LCI, LCI, and LCI blacklines, and then talks a little about them. No real relevance, here.

So, no, I don't agree that your 2011 is an LCI, because the LCI year for the 1 series started in 2012 (see my link above).

[WDE82]

Originally Posted by Esteban

I think you need to look at your links more closely:

In your BMWblog link, where you quoted "In 2011, the E82 1 Series received the well-deserved LCI treatment, which included some subtle visual changes to the car' exterior styling and some important updates in terms of powertrain and technology. The N54 unit powering the pre-LCI 135i Coupe was replaced by the newer N55 engine. In August 2013, production of the first-and-last ever 1 Series Coupe ceased, as the all-new 2 Series Coupe (F22) got unveiled," it actually talks about the 3 series getting "the well-deserved LCI treatment," then it talks about the M2 getting the "newer N55 engine."

Later in your BMWblog link, it says "As you already know, no M variant was offered for the 1 Series Convertible. Like in the case of the E82 model, the E88 open-top also received the LCI refreshment in 2011, which meant a sharper styling, new infotainment technology (BMW CIC) and more efficient powertrains. The one-and-only 1 Series Convertible marched on until June 2013, when production officially ended," but where it says "the E88 open-top also received the LCI refreshment in 2011," again it talks about the 3 series.

In your skiddmark link, it actually shows pictures of the 2012 1 series. Check out the headlights with the eyebrows, from the 2012 cars (you know that is not a 2011 model). It also mentions the N55 and the DCT and I think that is part of your confusion, since both years (2011, 2012) got the new engine and transmission. Of course 2013 got those as well.

You say "I think the only thing my 2011 didn't get was the LCI tail lights but mine are the LED triple light tubes which I actually prefer on my space gray 1er." It also doesn't have the LCI headlights with the eyebrows, that started in 2012, like I mention above.

Your last link from 1addicts just shows the 3 different taillights: pre-LCI, LCI, and LCI blacklines, and then talks a little about them. No real relevance, here.

So, no, I don't agree that your 2011 is an LCI, because the LCI year for the 1 series started in 2012 (see my link above).

Vehicles made in March 2011 and after are LCI. The eyebrow is the main visual indicator.

The swap to N55 was made in February 2010.

This is from RealOEM.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by WDE82

Vehicles made in March 2011 and after are LCI. The eyebrow is the main visual indicator.

The swap to N55 was made in February 2010.

This is from RealOEM.

The eyebrow came in MY2012. I had a MY2011 135i (production date 2010-04-27) with no eyebrows. No LCI headlights or LCI taillights on mine. Mine was a pre-LCI. LCI came in MY2012, so built sometime in 2011. N55 came in MY2011, so on 1ers built in 2010. We are agreeing. Yes?

[WDE82]

Originally Posted by Esteban

The eyebrow came in MY2012. I had a MY2011 135i (production date 2010-04-27) with no eyebrows. No LCI headlights or LCI taillights on mine. Mine was a pre-LCI. LCI came in MY2012, so built sometime in 2011. N55 came in MY2011, so on 1ers built in 2010. We are agreeing. Yes?

Yeah since build dates don't align with model years. Sometimes MY begins building almost an entire year before the actual year happens.

It is conceivable that there could be a mix here. It may have happened in the end of MY2011 so there may be some MY2011.5 with eyebrows? March 2011 is an early intro for MY2012 in my opinion. But we would need evidence of someone's car coming with the eyebrows as a 2011 MY on the window sticker.

[Esteban]

Originally Posted by WDE82

Yeah since build dates don't align with model years. Sometimes MY begins building almost an entire year before the actual year happens.

It is conceivable that there could be a mix here. It may have happened in the end of MY2011 so there may be some MY2011.5 with eyebrows? March 2011 is an early intro for MY2012 in my opinion. But we would need evidence of someone's car coming with the eyebrows as a 2011 MY on the window sticker.

Gangplank doesn't have eyebrows. Here's a pic (from 1addicts). Pretty car, btw.

[Esteban]

For reference: here's a pic of my window sticker, and a pic of my old 1er. MY2011 with no eyebrows.

[Lester]

I believe the manual key for the trunk disappeared after 2009, March.

So if your production date was after 2009, April then you most likely don't have a manual key on the trunk lid.

Basing this on recollection and browsing RealOEM.

[WDE82]

Yeah I've never seen evidence of a MY2011.5 existing so I think it really is 2012+ that has the LCI stuff.

[BMWCCA1]

Originally Posted by Gangplank

2011 135i - 9/2010 build. No key hole. Like I said, I think with the LCI it disappeared.

Or before the LCI.

Have we figured out yet whether the LCI was the point at which BMW stopped using all-leather seats and door inserts on cars with the Leather option?

I had to point out to a BMW NA regional rep that they now have a disclaimer about it on their web site, after she denied the mix of Sensatec and Leather on seats was a real thing: "Leather on all seating surfaces; other components may be Leather or Leatherette."