BMW M1 test car spotted testing on Nurburgring!

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Look at the differential cooling fins! Enormous!

[ZER0_C00L]

Originally Posted by Alpine325ci

honestly if you like to race then worry about weight or speed or whatever. but if you want it for the car that it is who cares whats on it. more than half of the people on these forums dont race their cars and they are worried about speed and handling and whats the shift ratio and blah blah and this and that. youre not going to be racing in the streets zig zagging in and out of traffic. just be happy the car looks good. quad exhaust and all. 3 most important things. Sexy Style, Good Looks and good gas milage

You must work for the current BMW design team... An ///M is designed for performance first and foremost. What you just argued is the path that BMW is now going down, and I would say it is going downhill, fast. An M1 is the wrong place to look for "Sexy Style, Good Looks and good gas milage"

[Kbueno]

Originally Posted by GreenPlease

Sure hope Proceed and some of the turbo upgrades we are starting to see come to fruition will be compatible

You know Shiv and the rest will jump right in feet first. Wow, I may have to rethink my plans for the next gen M3. Lighter toy for the track....hmmmm

[Beemer323]

Originally Posted by Alpine325ci

for racing fine but for being in the street and being noticed is different. bring on the heavy quad exhaust or the 20 inch i forged. this is why racers remove parts that are added weight. same with the M1 whatever you dont like...remove

Agreed. Hopefully Akrapovic will be designing a full Ti exhaust for the 1///M

[jeremyc74]

Originally Posted by Ash83

Hmmm... BMW M team usually camouflage the car well during testing.. this car is CR and INMHO this might be a tuner doing some test laps..

It's running manufacturer plates, and this same car has been sighted near several BMW facilities hundreds of miles apart. SCOTT just stated today that the car would be on the Ring, and here it is. There's no doubt at all that this is an M1 test mule.

The camo is that it's not running any production bodywork that hasn't already been seen.

[Alpin3_F30]

Originally Posted by jeremyc74

//M is supposed to mean MOTORSPORT.

sorry im the show type of guy not into racing but yeah of course ///M means it needs power and performance but its still a street car not a race car and you know its about marketing on what people see on the outside and the performance stays under the hood. not reduced weight removng this cuz its too heavy, ya know?

[F32Fleet]

Proper cooling is a big hurdle for this car due to lack of space which is why you haven't seen a ton of 135i's on the track as it is.

[mtla4]

Originally Posted by Alpine325ci

sorry im the show type of guy not into racing but yeah of course ///M means it needs power and performance but its still a street car not a race car and you know its about marketing on what people see on the outside and the performance stays under the hood. not reduced weight removng this cuz its too heavy, ya know?

Then the 135I or 128 is there for you

[MrHarris]

hella flush in the front.

[Alpin3_F30]

Originally Posted by mtla4

Then the 135I or 128 is there for you

ill settle with an M3 instead

[BMW269]

What I do not like:
-sound
-no Brembo brakes

So it seams I'll still have to mod the M1. Here is my list:
-Brembo brakes
-KW V3 CS
-KN Intake/Air Filter
-Akrapovic TI Full-Exhaust (hope they'll do one)
-Noelle Motors ECU

Hope I won't have to add Recaro lightweight seats.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by Levi

What I do not like:
-sound
-no Brembo brakes

So it seams I'll still have to mod the M1. Here is my list:
-Brembo brakes
-KW V3 CS
-KN Intake/Air Filter
-Akrapovic TI Full-Exhaust (hope they'll do one)
-Noelle Motors ECU

Hope I won't have to add Recaro lightweight seats.

Couldnt Brembos show up in a later test mule? I would imagine we will see this mule "evolve" over time on the Ring....

[BrokenVert]

Originally Posted by Alpine325ci

sorry im the show type of guy not into racing but yeah of course ///M means it needs power and performance but its still a street car not a race car and you know its about marketing on what people see on the outside and the performance stays under the hood. not reduced weight removng this cuz its too heavy, ya know?

M Division exists solely because inorder to race in certain leagues a manufacturer needs to make a road car that the race car is based off of.

This is the same reason why Ferrari exists, it is the same reason that Porsche makes a 911 GT3 and it the same reason why Aston Martin makes the DBS.

So to answer your question. The M Division makes race cars, that are sorta street legal.

Have you ever driven or ridden in an E30 M3? Talk about a shitty road car

[Alpin3_F30]

Originally Posted by BrokenVert

M Division exists solely because inorder to race in certain leagues a manufacturer needs to make a road car that the race car is based off of.

This is the same reason why Ferrari exists, it is the same reason that Porsche makes a 911 GT3 and it the same reason why Aston Martin makes the DBS.

So to answer your question. The M Division makes race cars, that are sorta street legal.

Have you ever driven or ridden in an E30 M3? Talk about a shitty road car

no i feel you on that. i would wana feel the handling and the power even though im not gona drive 140mph on the highway but to know that i have a fast good handling car in my hands and for bragging rights.

[BrokenVert]

Originally Posted by Alpine325ci

no i feel you on that. i would wana feel the handling and the power even though im not gona drive 140mph on the highway but to know that i have a fast good handling car in my hands and for bragging rights.

But why do you need to brag? Thats the reason why the M Division has sold out. They are building cars for badge whores who just want to brag that their car is fast.

That is why people say that M stands for Marketing instead of Motorsport now.

[Alpin3_F30]

Originally Posted by BrokenVert

But why do you need to brag? Thats the reason why the M Division has sold out. They are building cars for badge whores who just want to brag that their car is fast.

That is why people say that M stands for Marketing instead of Motorsport now.

i dont race maybe thats why i just about the car. i like looks, like i said im car show guy, its my hobby so looks is what i look for. just like photoshopping is for looks if that makes sence lol

[BrokenVert]

Im not saying that you cant be proud of your car. There will always be a pride in ownership.

But bragging about it, and buying it inorder to brag makes it arrogance.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by BrokenVert

Im not saying that you cant be proud of your car. There will always be a pride in ownership.

But bragging about it, and buying it inorder to brag makes it arrogance.

Oh well--let's just move on and be excited about the M1.

There will always be folks that buy ///Ms for reasons other than the true motorsporting intentions....

[e46e92love]

Originally Posted by jeremyc74

If anyone needs any further proof why ///M leans so much more toward ///Marketing than ///Motorsports these days, right there it is.

Yes, I race the car.

+1,000,000,000

[Alpin3_F30]

Originally Posted by BrokenVert

Im not saying that you cant be proud of your car. There will always be a pride in ownership.

But bragging about it, and buying it inorder to brag makes it arrogance.

well truthfully im no bragger i have an automatic 325ci coupe but it looks good though. but honestly who doesnt want an ///M

[///M///M Good]

Anyone else notice it's got the old style flip-up nav screen? I wonder how many miles that test mule has been through in its life. It makes you wonder how many engine / suspension / etc. swaps it's been through in its life.

[SCOTT26]

Anyone else notice it's got the old style flip-up nav screen? I wonder how many miles that test mule has been through in its life. It makes you wonder how many engine / suspension / etc. swaps it's been through in its life.

They use old Press cars for such development mules as this , The body is a 135i whilst the mechanicals are all M certified.

All cars you see testing , right up to the semi disguised prototypes you still see after the launch are all eventually crushed.