Maybe you guys are right about reliability

[visage11]

I just drove from GA to OH, about 572 miles and back with no issues... Then again it was JUST serviced about 2 months ago... :P

[Dafttt]

Originally Posted by vertebra

You are personally responsible for starting the conflict in this thread

No playful sibling rivalry?

You have more reliability issues than us at the expense of an 70hp increase, and what seems like an infinite amount of torque, stock. Take that fact, and let's call it a day.

[vertebra]

Originally Posted by Daft Auto

Quote:

Originally Posted by vertebra

You are personally responsible for starting the conflict in this thread

You have more reliability issues than us at the expense of an 70hp increase, and what seems like an infinite amount of torque, stock. Take that fact, pat yourself on the back, and let's call it a day.

70+ hp and the ability to increase that an extra 20 if you want to through BMW or really hundreds more through other upgrades. I would gladly have kept the extra $ in my pocket instead of BMW's but I wanted something that was fast not quick.




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[Nicko_88]

Hi All, I have just joined the forum and it won't allow me to post a new topic, can someone who has a 1 series coupe with the shark fin measure the distance from the rear windscreen to the back of the shark fin. My 1 series didn't come with one and I want to make sure I fit it in the standard position.

Thank You

[chrisN]

^ LOL

[TheSt|G]

Originally Posted by FIRST1

The 135i is 500lbs heavier than 128i?

Seeing as the guy I quoted is driving a 135i Vert, yup.

[vertebra]

Originally Posted by TheSt|G

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Originally Posted by FIRST1

The 135i is 500lbs heavier than 128i?

Seeing as the guy I quoted is driving a 135i Vert, yup.

135i vert curb weight is 3660lbs. 128i coupe is 3252lbs. A 408lb difference. 135i vert has 12.2lbs/hp. The 128i coupe has 14.1lbs/hp. That is why even with the extra weight the 135i vert is still faster even in its stock form.


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[631twentyeighteye]

my 128 weighs 3156 as per registration weight.

also, glad to see many can take a joke so well. didn't mean to hurt feelings so you guys can relax, I'm just saying I've had 46k trouble free miles and zero stops at the dealership.

edit: I do recall my father's 335i n54 having the same sensor replaced when it had less than 3000 miles on it. took a few trips to the dealership before they fixed it.

[Suprgnat]

OP, great car, stuff happens. Just address known issues as part of a PM and you'll be fine. Have fun and don't worry too much.

FWIW

"Our 3197-pound car was 223 pounds lighter than the 135i we tested, with a more even front-to-rear weight distribution as well."

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take-road-test

135i convertible: "Curb weight: 3691 lb"

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...trumented-test

3691-3197=494. Close enough. Yes, the 135i is faster. Yes, the 128i has fewer parts to break. Not sure what any of this has to do with the OP's concerns.

[Iron Man]

Anecdotal evidence about reliability is worthless. That is why you need statistics and a lot of data. If you want to know the true reliability of a car, you need to see Consumer Reports/JD Power studies (3 year/5 year studies are the most meaningful). Now regarding turbo vs. non-turbo reliability, a turbo-charged engine has more moving complex/parts, which increased complexity will usually decrease reliability.

[Bimmer-Bob]

Originally Posted by vertebra

70+ hp and the ability to increase that an extra 20 if you want to through BMW or really hundreds more through other upgrades. I would gladly have kept the extra $ in my pocket instead of BMW's but I wanted something that was fast not quick.

I often hear people say, "Oh, the 128i is quick, but it's not fast," which is nonsense. The two words are practically interchangeable.

Fast: characterized by quick motion, operation, or effect

Quick: marked by speed, readiness, or promptness of physical movement

The 135i is quicker and faster than the 128i, which is both quick and fast.

[lastMleft]

On forums I here allot about reliability issues for the 135i/335i, ive owned both and not one problem with both, now I'm either a lucky SOB or a really lucky SOB If you don't trust the vehicle you have there are other options out there, I come from an E46 M3, and owned an E46 ZHP both cars according to on line forums had major vanos problems and other issues, but not mine, now I'm either a lucky SOB or a really lucky SOB


I'm not saying these and other issues don't occur, they do, but not as blown up as they are on line

[Iron Man]

Originally Posted by Rukuss

I'm not saying these and other issues don't occur, they do, but not as blown up as they are on line

People who have problems are much more likely to tell the world online. While people who don't have problems won't say a thing, hence the skewed opinions in forums. How many sub-forums are there for "Trouble Free Experience"?

[tuco44]

Originally Posted by Iron Man

Anecdotal evidence about reliability is worthless. That is why you need statistics and a lot of data. If you want to know the true reliability of a car, you need to see Consumer Reports/JD Power studies (3 year/5 year studies are the most meaningful). Now regarding turbo vs. non-turbo reliability, a turbo-charged engine has more moving complex/parts, which increased complexity will usually decrease reliability.

Agreed, most anecdotal evidence is garbage and can be ignored. On forums, everyone is an expert....

[Arrrrmatey]

Originally Posted by tuco44

Agreed, most anecdotal evidence is garbage and can be ignored. On forums, everyone is an expert....

True! Forums are the goto place for info (even after one filters out all the miss-information) .... but the part about forums I find a bit distracting is the "I am cooler than u" arrogance:

Old Timer vs noob
Turbo vs NA (or NA vs Turbo <plenty of meanies in both camps>)
MT vs Auto
DCT vs Auto
Higher series vs Lower series

To me, most these arguments are like getting mad at the guy ahead of you in line at the ice cream shop for getting Mint Chocolate Chip when you think Rocky Road is better ...

Whew, I feel better .. time to go out to the garage and try to figure out how to get the darn "check engine" light on the jeep to turn off ...

[Hops128i]

Was wondering what the 'fuel flow sensor' is. I couldn't find anything about it online about, is it the same thing as 'mass airflow sensor'?

[MIAblu1]

Originally Posted by Hops128i

Was wondering what the 'fuel flow sensor' is. I couldn't find anything about it online about, is it the same thing as 'mass airflow sensor'?

It's a flow sensor on the fuel rail. I did a DIY to replace to LPFS, just can't post a link at the moment because I'm on my mobile.

[lastMleft]

Originally Posted by Iron Man

People who have problems are much more likely to tell the world online. While people who don't have problems won't say a thing, hence the skewed opinions in forums. How many sub-forums are there for "Trouble Free Experience"?

I'm not aware of "trouble free forums", my point is, if you or I listen to most rants online we would be driving Toyota corollas

[TheSt|G]

Originally Posted by vertebra

135i vert curb weight is 3660lbs. 128i coupe is 3252lbs. A 408lb difference. 135i vert has 12.2lbs/hp. The 128i coupe has 14.1lbs/hp. That is why even with the extra weight the 135i vert is still faster even in its stock form.


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BMW seems to disagree. 440lb difference at a minimum, 500lb difference if you spec'd the slushbox. I'm also lighter than the 128i spec weight thanks to a handy sunroof delete and a few other things.

Also, who was talking about speed? If you want to get into power to weight I'm at 10.5lbs/hp currently...

[Suprgnat]

Originally Posted by TheSt|G

If you want to get into power to weight I'm at 10.5lbs/hp currently...

Dude, I'm firmly in the NA camp but damn, put up or shut up. 3200 lb car divided by 10.5 HP=305 rwhp. Not saying it ain't so, but before I become an evangelist I need proof, not estimates or guesses.
You keep promising a dyno sheet...

[TMR013]

Holy Crap! Didn't mean to start a war with our 128 brethren. Honestly guys the title of my original post was sarcastic. Just finished the first half of my 3500 mile road trip and the 1er is awesome. Still getting the idiot light intermittently, but after talking with BMW about it, decided it's a worry if it gets worse issue. The car runs beautifully.
By the way for those of you who have not done PCH N of San Fran, it's a pilgrimage you need to make.

[Exite]

Seriously guys if you want reliability don't buy a performance car. They make reliable cars like the camry. Car issues suck that is for sure, but cars that handle like ass, accelerate slowly, brake slow, etc. last a long time and that is pretty much not any bmw, merc, lexus, acura, infinity, etc. it's a (basic) toyota, ford, chevy, nissan, honda, vw, etc... I've driven a 128i as a loaner before and they are a fine car.