Report: BMW Considering 1M CSL ?

[LeifW]

Originally Posted by MDORPHN

Of course, he can't!

Scott is viral marketer (aka "professional tease").

Neil

I'm just hoping for a ball park figure (i.e. within 1 month, 3 months, 6 months, etc.)


Leif W.

[optimaxed]

So what do you think a CSL would have ?

Lighter sports seats,
Lighter ducktail trunk,
Carbon fibre roof
375 HP ?

Any other suggestions ?

[mthrizee]

^^^Upgraded interior with alcantara carbon fiber accents (console, trim, etc.), CSL wheels, upgraded body kit, better brakes.

I own an M3 but I would buy a 1 M CSL over a new M3.

[pyrat]

BMW should put out both a 1M CSL and M3 CSL.

This would be sick

[auggiem3]

Originally Posted by mthrizee

^^^Upgraded interior with alcantara carbon fiber accents (console, trim, etc.), CSL wheels, upgraded body kit, better brakes.

I own an M3 but I would buy a 1 M CSL over a new M3.

The more I read about the 1M, the more excited I get about it. But at the end of the day, I have an e92 M3 with everything I wanted (except ZCP which wasn't released in 2008 when I ordered). That car should satisfy me, right? Then why do I keep contemplating a 1M replacement?

[Beemer323]

Originally Posted by optimaxed

So what do you think a CSL would have ?

Lighter sports seats,
Lighter ducktail trunk,
Carbon fibre roof
375 HP ?

Any other suggestions ?

A tissue box holder...

[esqu1re]

Originally Posted by auggiem3

The more I read about the 1M, the more excited I get about it. But at the end of the day, I have an e92 M3 with everything I wanted (except ZCP which wasn't released in 2008 when I ordered). That car should satisfy me, right? Then why do I keep contemplating a 1M replacement?

It's just a new product. Let it have its day in the spotlight. =)

[Brandon26pdx]

I'll translate Scott26's post: "1M CSL is absolutely going to happen"

Don't hold your breath if you live in North America though. How many times have these uber special editions become available for sale to US or Canadian customers now? Precisely 0 times. Love to be wrong this time, but I doubt I will be.

[pyrat]

Originally Posted by Brandon26pdx

I'll translate Scott26's post: "1M CSL is absolutely going to happen"

Don't hold your breath if you live in North America though. How many times have these uber special editions become available for sale to US or Canadian customers now? Precisely 0 times. Love to be wrong this time, but I doubt I will be.

even if 1M CSL was euro only, at least the parts would be available

[as7920]

Originally Posted by ferrari4evr1

How is that killing the experience??? You're getting a 1M right? You are one of the few lucky ones. Be grateful, sheesh!
They are only making the 1M for 1 year (actually less than that).
If they do make a CSL, it might not even make it over to US shores. So, that would REALLY suck (twice) for us Americans who wanted the E46 CSL. But we still got a E46 ZCP

Yes I am getting a 1M as it is spec-ed on the premise that they couldn't do better for the money. Such that they throttled the current 1M to deliberately allow for room to make the CSL and not announce it publicly from the outset.

Fair enough if it is a stripped out racer, ultra lightweight etc, that's not what i want. I want a comfortable daily driver. Whilst in my ownership, my 1M will not see a track. However if they bump the power up in the CSL to what was originally rumoured for the 1M ie 350 -375 bhp, offer more colours, CF roof and or DCT I will be very very angry.

I don't see Audi doing this with the RS3.

[GnokGnik]

I think the 1M is taking over as BMW's best track car over the M3.

I am guessing 380hp/360tq/3000lbs/$70k/MDCT for the CSL

[Saloonracer]

CSL Will not come to the US based on past sales and safety regulations in the US. The parts will also be almost impossible to source from BMW as they have very tight controls on whom orders the parts. Ask a dealer to find you a CSL part for the E46 M3.
A Competition package 1M though, that will definitely make its way over here. I think they will probably keep to the std Competition package list of changes plus one or two extra add ins because its an FI car.

upgraded steering wheel
Tighter ratio steering rack
Lighter wheels (if thats possible for a reasonable cost)
Better Brakes setup
Maybe optional CF roof
removing some of the sound insulation (n54 is not a very noisy engine anyway)
Maybe a sport button to bump power or change power delivery curve
That might bring in a change in oil cooler (bigger on or added one)
Lighter sport seats possibly?

Remember, they still gotta sell this thing and keep sales for the M3 up. So dont expect alot of changes. BMW is big on saving weight - thats where they would start.

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[crackberry]

lol, that would be hilarious if they drop in a s65 engine.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Brandon26pdx

I'll translate Scott26's post: "1M CSL is absolutely going to happen"

Don't hold your breath if you live in North America though. How many times have these uber special editions become available for sale to US or Canadian customers now? Precisely 0 times. Love to be wrong this time, but I doubt I will be.

Incorrect. The E36 M3 CSL did make it to the US.

Not trying to steal your thunder... it's very likely the US would get left out again. We already don't get the E92 M3 GTS, we never got the E30 M3 sport evo, the E46 M3 CSL, and the new E92 M3 sedan lightweight has been stated as not for US sale.....

[Grey Dove]

The 1M is the CSL version of the current 1series just like the M3 GTS is to the current 3series.
Production in Leipzig ends first quarter 2012.

Perhaps there might be one made from the next gen.?

[James T. Kirk]

If the 1M CSL comes true, then it's another grande "gotcha" by BMW.

BMW Marketing:
Hurry everyone! Buy our limited edition 2011 1M while supplies last.
Small print: Because next year we're going to have one on the market WAAAYYYY better!

LOL!!!!You all are so screwed!

[James T. Kirk]

Originally Posted by as7920

However if they bump the power up in the CSL to what was originally rumoured for the 1M ie 350 -375 bhp, offer more colours, CF roof and or DCT I will be very very angry.

You better refill your prescription sedatives, my friend.
Because that's EXACTLY what's going to happen.

[Jblack4083]

For anyone that thinks theyre going to be upset... That's the price you pay for being an early adopter... It's not BMW's fault.

They already hooked you guys with the "we're including only a M/T to provide a PURE DRIVING EXPERIENCE" lol aka "It can't be faster than the M3 but we're going to convince you we're not giving it DCT for a good reason ;-)". Marketing BS

[James T. Kirk]

^Right. And then give it DCT the next year!

This reminds me of Apple and how they release their products.
We love the products, but hate the rollouts.

[evolution80]

Originally Posted by as7920

However if they bump the power up in the CSL to what was originally rumoured for the 1M ie 350 -375 bhp, offer more colours, CF roof and or DCT I will be very very angry.

i dont think they will ever make a 1M csl - rather some competition package if they are going to extend production...

however, if they would make a csl - i would probably buy it

[Grey Dove]

Originally Posted by James T. Kirk

You better refill your prescription sedatives, my friend.
Because that's EXACTLY what's going to happen.

And do you also know when this will be?

[James T. Kirk]

^ The answer is simple... Just assume the opposite of whatever BMW marketing says.

So it'll probably be in a car show near you by autumn.