Drifitng can kill AT? Need an answer

Tenhauser · 07-24-2006, 01:20 AM

Hi everybody!

The reason of posting this message is that my friend told me (after driving in my car) that drifting (DSC off + Sport mode/Manual engaged) on car with automatic transmitiiion will surely damage and kill it.

I am planning of getting E92 335i and i wanted to know if it is true that occasional drifting can kill automatic transmission? I mean when there is over 300 hp under the hood and you are driving RWD car and that car is BMW i can't just drive from point A to point B - that said i like occasional drifting (currently i am driving 330 e46 AT).

I am looking forward to your reply.

shimshimhada · 07-24-2006, 01:26 AM

lol

Tenhauser · 07-24-2006, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by shimshimhada

lol

Thank you for your verbose answer

shimshimhada · 07-24-2006, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenhauser

Thank you for your verbose answer

Sorry, I was thinking of something useful to post, but that just came out.

Drifting will put stress on any tranny. I doubt the occasionally drift will kill a modern automatic transmission.

RaptorKTM · 07-24-2006, 02:30 AM

no that is complete bull. I drift in my car all teh time and the only problem i have is that tires are so damn expensive

MG_2006325i_KG · 07-24-2006, 02:41 AM

so here is an idea......DON'T DRIFT

RaptorKTM · 07-24-2006, 02:47 AM

the whole thread is pretty worthless honestly. i mean any abuse is hard on the car. buts not going to break

Victor.L3IchibanM3 · 07-24-2006, 04:01 AM

Dude seriously WATS THE POINT OF DRIFTING? I see alot of azn kids at my skool fixing up their cheap azz Rice car (Toyota,Acura,M Evo,Honda,Mazda,etc) and doin this kind shit which I think is really stupid since you are not getting paid and just wasting bunch of expensive tires and putting your life in jeopardy. I mean seriously too many teenager get influence from Fast and the Furious and Initial D and than end up dying on the street. You are driving a BMW not some cheap car so my advice to you is don't drift since if you mess it it will be cost you alot of $ compare to those azn car and you are driving this car with pride and dignity

GuillaumeSoete · 07-24-2006, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Victor.L3IchibanM3

Dude seriously WATS THE POINT OF DRIFTING? I see alot of azn kids at my skool fixing up their cheap azz Rice car (Toyota,Acura,M Evo,Honda,Mazda,etc) and doin this kind shit which I think is really stupid since you are not getting paid and just wasting bunch of expensive tires and putting your life in jeopardy. I mean seriously too many teenager get influence from Fast and the Furious and Initial D and than end up dying on the street. You are driving a BMW not some cheap car so my advice to you is don't drift since if you mess it it will be cost you alot of $ compare to those azn car and you are driving this car with pride and dignity

Did you ever think that some could *enjoy* drifting? Did you ever think that if great pilots like Sabine Schmidt (ring taxi driver) drift when not racing, they might like it?
If it's not your thing, fine.
I don't like soccer and I'm not telling everybody that soccer is stupid because you can injure yourself or whatever.

Guillaume

KennyVendetta · 07-24-2006, 05:25 AM

WOW.

NFS · 07-24-2006, 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tenhauser

Hi everybody!

The reason of posting this message is that my friend told me (after driving in my car) that drifting (DSC off + Sport mode/Manual engaged) on car with automatic transmitiiion will surely damage and kill it.

I am planning of getting E92 335i and i wanted to know if it is true that occasional drifting can kill automatic transmission? I mean when there is over 300 hp under the hood and you are driving RWD car and that car is BMW i can't just drive from point A to point B - that said i like occasional drifting (currently i am driving 330 e46 AT).

I am looking forward to your reply.

Why would drifting 'kill' the tranny?

voltron1011 · 07-24-2006, 10:30 AM

If you insist on using your car as a 'Bavarian Drifter', I'd suggest getting the tranny serviced a lot more frequently than the manual states. Perhaps a full service flush every 30,000 miles.

NFS · 07-24-2006, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by voltron1011

If you insist on using your car as a 'Bavarian Drifter', I'd suggest getting the tranny serviced a lot more frequently than the manual states. Perhaps a full service flush every 30,000 miles.

The manual states that the transmission is sealed and the fluid never needs to be changed - so that would be a LOT more frequent.

jflecha · 07-24-2006, 11:13 AM

Make sure you follow BMW's strict break in rules, dont drift past 4500RPM before sliding 1200 miles.

Tony · 07-24-2006, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Victor.L3IchibanM3

Dude seriously WATS THE POINT OF DRIFTING?

You ever heard of the word FUN!

ezatnova · 07-24-2006, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jflecha

Make sure you follow BMW's strict break in rules, dont drift past 4500RPM before sliding 1200 miles.

LOL

just4kickz · 07-24-2006, 12:24 PM

u can drift w/ auto? lol wtf? + even w/ dsc off isnt there still some level of traction control?

BK · 07-24-2006, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Victor.L3IchibanM3

Dude seriously WATS THE POINT OF DRIFTING? I see alot of azn kids at my skool fixing up their cheap azz Rice car (Toyota,Acura,M Evo,Honda,Mazda,etc) and doin this kind shit which I think is really stupid...

Drifting with FWD cars? Do people do that?

ALPINE6SPD · 07-24-2006, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BK

Drifting with FWD cars? Do people do that?

they attempt to

mkoesel · 07-24-2006, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jflecha

Make sure you follow BMW's strict break in rules, dont drift past 4500RPM before sliding 1200 miles.

LMFAO

MoreCowbell · 07-24-2006, 01:02 PM

I can't afford to kill my run flats!!!

Victor.L3IchibanM3 · 07-24-2006, 01:18 PM

The video shows a male in the crowd getting hit by a passing race car. He dies instantly. This incident happened in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.

http://www.ogrish.com/archives/fatal...c_19_2005.html

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Illegal Car Racing Statistics in the USA:

Consider the following stats, compiled from a variety of national and state transportation agencies, and it's easy to see the answer is to take it to the track.

In 2001, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) reported that police listed street racing as a factor in 135 fatal crashes. The total was up from 72 street-racing-related fatalities reported in 2000.

According to the California Office of Traffic Safety, more than 800 citations for illegal street racing were issued in 2001.

In San Diego, where the street racing problem has been termed "epidemic," 16 deaths and 31 injuries were directly related to illegal street racing in 2001. The city's attorney's office prosecuted 147 illegal street racing cases in 1999, 161 in 2000, and 290 in 2001.

In Florida in 2001, 7,216 citations were issued for racing on the highway.

In 1999, the Florida Department of Highway and Safety for Motor Vehicles reported 28 accidents related to illegal street racing, with 2 fatalities and 27 injuries. In 2000, the agency reported 39 racing accidents, with 1 fatality and 55 injuries. In 2002, there were 48 racing accidents, 1 fatality, and 60 injuries.

According to the NHTSA, motor vehicle accidents are the leading cause of death for people between the ages of 16 and 20.

The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety says 5,749 teens died in the United States from motor vehicle crash injuries in 1999.

Nationwide statistics show that 49 people are injured for every 1,000 who participate in illegal street racing.

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Tenhauser Registered 1 Rep 2 Posts Drives: bmw 330 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Moscow iTrader: (0)	Drifitng can kill AT? Need an answer Hi everybody! The reason of posting this message is that my friend told me (after driving in my car) that drifting (DSC off + Sport mode/Manual engaged) on car with automatic transmitiiion will surely damage and kill it. I am planning of getting E92 335i and i wanted to know if it is true that occasional drifting can kill automatic transmission? I mean when there is over 300 hp under the hood and you are driving RWD car and that car is BMW i can't just drive from point A to point B - that said i like occasional drifting (currently i am driving 330 e46 AT). I am looking forward to your reply.
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MG_2006325i_KG Private First Class 61 Rep 158 Posts Drives: 2006 325i Alpine White Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tampa, FL iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 325i [0.00]	so here is an idea......DON'T DRIFT
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RaptorKTM Colonel 236 Rep 2,366 Posts Drives: 1 M Coupe Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: San Diego iTrader: (1) Garage List 2011 BMW 1 M [0.00]	the whole thread is pretty worthless honestly. i mean any abuse is hard on the car. buts not going to break
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Victor.L3IchibanM3 Banned 262 Rep 373 Posts Drives: '06 325i,'04 RX 330,'99Corolla Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: San Jose iTrader: (0)	Dude seriously WATS THE POINT OF DRIFTING? I see alot of azn kids at my skool fixing up their cheap azz Rice car (Toyota,Acura,M Evo,Honda,Mazda,etc) and doin this kind shit which I think is really stupid since you are not getting paid and just wasting bunch of expensive tires and putting your life in jeopardy. I mean seriously too many teenager get influence from Fast and the Furious and Initial D and than end up dying on the street. You are driving a BMW not some cheap car so my advice to you is don't drift since if you mess it it will be cost you alot of $ compare to those azn car and you are driving this car with pride and dignity
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voltron1011 Colonel 119 Rep 2,909 Posts Drives: 2011 135i, FJR-1300 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wiesbaden iTrader: (2)	If you insist on using your car as a 'Bavarian Drifter', I'd suggest getting the tranny serviced a lot more frequently than the manual states. Perhaps a full service flush every 30,000 miles.
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jflecha Second Lieutenant 10 Rep 205 Posts Drives: E90 06 330i Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The Garden State iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 330I [0.00]	Make sure you follow BMW's strict break in rules, dont drift past 4500RPM before sliding 1200 miles. __________________ Tit-Silver 330i/STEP/SP/PP/CWP
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Victor.L3IchibanM3 Banned 262 Rep 373 Posts Drives: '06 325i,'04 RX 330,'99Corolla Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: San Jose iTrader: (0)	The video shows a male in the crowd getting hit by a passing race car. He dies instantly. This incident happened in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. http://www.ogrish.com/archives/fatal...c_19_2005.html -- Illegal Car Racing Statistics in the USA: Consider the following stats, compiled from a variety of national and state transportation agencies, and it's easy to see the answer is to take it to the track. In 2001, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) reported that police listed street racing as a factor in 135 fatal crashes. The total was up from 72 street-racing-related fatalities reported in 2000. According to the California Office of Traffic Safety, more than 800 citations for illegal street racing were issued in 2001. In San Diego, where the street racing problem has been termed "epidemic," 16 deaths and 31 injuries were directly related to illegal street racing in 2001. The city's attorney's office prosecuted 147 illegal street racing cases in 1999, 161 in 2000, and 290 in 2001. In Florida in 2001, 7,216 citations were issued for racing on the highway. In 1999, the Florida Department of Highway and Safety for Motor Vehicles reported 28 accidents related to illegal street racing, with 2 fatalities and 27 injuries. In 2000, the agency reported 39 racing accidents, with 1 fatality and 55 injuries. In 2002, there were 48 racing accidents, 1 fatality, and 60 injuries. According to the NHTSA, motor vehicle accidents are the leading cause of death for people between the ages of 16 and 20. The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety says 5,749 teens died in the United States from motor vehicle crash injuries in 1999. Nationwide statistics show that 49 people are injured for every 1,000 who participate in illegal street racing.
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