10-31-2011, 04:56 PM | #1 |
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Harman Kardon speaker locations in 1M
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As I told before in my previous thread I keep on counting just 8 speakers in my 3 day old 1M. I ordered and paid for H/K and they appear in invoice etc., plus the front mirror triangle tweeters are in fact with H/K logo on them but at the back I just couldn't see any tweeters but only 2 mid range speakers. The rear tweeters are one distinguishing feature of H/K so I want to clarify this. Documents are not helping, can someone who owns a 1M with H/K take a photo of its rear parcel shelf area where the speakers should be. I hope they are integrated inside the same place together with the midranges, that's why I see only 8. Thanks in advance for any help. |
10-31-2011, 05:13 PM | #2 |
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http://bmw.harmankardon.com/en/index.aspx
EDIT: Nevermind...spoke too soon. I see why you asked the question. Perhaps they're in the same location as the rears? Last edited by v1k0d3n; 10-31-2011 at 05:24 PM.. |
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10-31-2011, 05:32 PM | #3 |
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Thanks anyway. I know that document, it is a beautiful document and according to that all I have from H/K is the front tweeters and who knows if I am lucky also the DSP which is even less visible.
Or, I really need to go and have my eyes checked. |
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10-31-2011, 05:49 PM | #4 |
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the thing is, those are definitely not JUST mid's in the back. there's definitely highs as well (hurts my ears if I turn EQ all the way up to highs and listen in the rear). my guess is that they are installed side-by-side?
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10-31-2011, 07:09 PM | #5 |
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was going to add a post earlier but I was busy at work.
Coaxial speakers with component quality tweeters are becoming very common. I would imagine that is what is employed in the back.. Normally.. most coaxial speakers have a lesser quality tweeter... However many manufactureres are now using a true high quality tweeter (much like is employed in the separates line) placed on a bridge that goes over the midrange driver cone. In some cases the tweeter can even be positioned, and the there may even be separate outboard crossovers... here is an example of a high quality speaker with such a tweeter http://www.focal.com/en/car-audio-so...ux/100-ca1.php To be honest... There is very little reason for tweets in the rear of ANY car... unless you are talking separates mounted in the door. Tweeters behind the ears of back seat passengers make it hard to hear for those rear seat passengers, and they also destroy some of the sound stage for front seat passengers. Mid range drivers for rear fill are all that is needed in the rear, unless one is trying to replicate surround sound in the vehicle. If the HK sound system uses Logic 7 from the head unit.. . then this would be why they have full tweets in the rear. True high end car audio.. including systems for high end car audio competitions.. typically use mid range or midbass drivers for rear fill rather than have directional sound coming from the rear of the vehicle. I have owned a Lexicon surround sound processor which uses Logic 7. It's a great system for home audio listening.. really a bit overkill for car audio purrposes.. but the manufacturer has to find a way to get people to tick the option boxes somehow... Hope this helps Oz... stop counting speakers, starting new threads... and start driving or something. Last edited by M3 Adjuster; 10-31-2011 at 07:26 PM.. |
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10-31-2011, 08:48 PM | #6 |
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M3 Adjuster, thanks for all the effort and good information; I know that you had been working in the business and have direct information on all this. Probably that is why you did not opt for H/K, if I remember correctly.
I'll take your advice and stop counting speakers...and things in general |
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11-05-2011, 11:06 AM | #9 |
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A few days ago while I was driving I have noticed a car audio store and stopped by and asked the technician about my little mystery and he got inside the car and started the radio and told me that there are definitely tweeters behind under the same box with the midranges.
So counting the speakers and wondering their whereabouts officially ended for me, there are 8 visible but 10 physical speakers with the H/K. The brochures are somewhat misleading. And the subwoofers are definitely under the front seats and visible. |
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11-06-2011, 10:50 PM | #11 |
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I can't wait to hear this thing when my car arrives!
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11-07-2011, 07:55 AM | #12 |
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I've lost most of my upper register on the left (firearms), so I'm just happy that I can move the balance over and make it feel more...balanced. I was wondering about the number of speakers as well. Will have to scope out the back again.
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11-07-2011, 08:34 AM | #13 |
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I didn't feel the HK system was useful
The engine was more than enough for my years. At any RPM range it drowns out the music for sure
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11-07-2011, 10:31 AM | #15 |
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I also wanted it all. That's why I ordered it.
But realistically, it's ALWAYS just background noise.
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