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Also, there is a site tube on the side of our Riss Racing Oil Catch Can to show you exactly how much oil is being caught. Whenever you pop the hood, just take a look. If you need to empty it, take off the 2 bolts on the bracket and take off the drain plug at the bottom. Its almost too easy to have your car running more efficient! |
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I was refering to the ECU metered air that passes from the crankcase to the intake, not the oil (the oil is a biproduct of removing the air pressure from the crank case), and explaining why BMW dosen't include a catch can. I agree that it is a good modification for aftermarket as long as you check it often. Oh and the only thing getting in your catch can should be oil,air, and water from the condensation of the air. If your catch can has "dirt/debris" that would mean that dirt and debris are coming out of your engines crankcase. If you see oily dirt in your intake that is the oil from the crankcase vent adhering to the dirt already in your intake. If dirt and debris are in your intake I would suggest changing the filter... |
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what can an oil catch can catch? j/k
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Pardon my ignorance but i'm not sold on the whole necessity of a catch can on brand new engines. I've previously had turbo charged cars and the only time i ever collected any oil into my catch can was when the engine was worn (hence why i installed it in the first place). Once I rebuilt the engine, my catch can remained bone dry.
I'm certainly not an engineer but my understanding of oil blow-by is caused from the rings failing to seal into the cylinder bore and therefore allowing oil to "blow by" into the crankcase. The fact that you guys have so much oil in your piping, as evidenced in your pictures, really concerns me as that says that your rings have failed to bed in properly. I don't mean to discredit the need for your product, but i guess I'm confused as to why our brand new engines would be producing any blow by in the first place. I know when i got my car, and similarly to every new engine i've ever had, i ran in my engine, varying loads and speeds and keeping the rpm modest to ensure my rings bed in, even if they are tested on factory test benches. If you could shed some light and correct me, i'm happy to listen. As I stated, i'm not an engineer/mechanic or similar so i'm potentially mis-informed. Cheers P.S. Keep up the good work, Riss are making some nice products and I look forward to maybe modding my car up with some once the bank recovers from the inital outlay price of my 135i :smile:
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08-26-2008, 12:16 AM | #31 | |
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The truth is all vendors claim there product does this or that to get your money. You can find a expert anywere to agree with you for a price. I'm not saying this about cc but just in general. Honestly do you believe BMW would skimp on this even if it cost you a few extra dollars if it was needed?
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My S4 had three vent hoses that came off the engine and connected together.. one from the center area of the block and one from each valve cover. The valve covers had a known baffle issue that caused the messy oil issue.
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Just for the record, we are not a vendor with just a claim. This is the reason I would love for everybody to inspect the charge pipe themselves. If we are selling a product that doesn't work, that will be public very quickly. There are a ton of threads saying "I think it won't work, or probably won't work." But the truth of the matter is, everybody should check their own cars and make their own decisions. I know this for a fact because its been proven 100% of the times we've done inspections/customers done inspections. You can quote me on this as well. "There will be oil caked in the charge pipes." There are not many turbo cars/if any that come standard with oil catch cans. They will be more efficient for our cars and also give longevity to your turbo's and intercooler. |
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Adam, with the most recent photo with oil in the diverter, did the car have an oil catch can already installed?
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Thanks for your replies Adam and Crazy4135i. I appreciate your answers. I'll be sure to have a look at my charge pipe when i can next be bothered taking it apart. My car is fairly low km's still and isn't a daily driver nor track car so i'm not too worried about this issue currently but if oil is found, a RR catch can (in black) will be ordered :smile:
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I'm just not one of those conspiracy theorist that believes BMW wants their cars to break down as soon as they are out of warranty. Here in Germany it's two years unlimited mileage that's it and no free services. before anything else BMW was a engine company. The master mechanic at the dealership where I go (over 35 years of experience) told me you don't need it. He said you can drive around with football gear on too it would probably make you safer but is it necessary? The key is regular maintenance IMHOP. Hey you never know I can be wrong. |
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Well your mechanic I'm sure knows what hes talking about. But a simple reply to this is you don't NEED an air filter. But to protect your motor you should probably have one don't you think? If you don't believe that you need a catch can its very simple. Go under the hood of your car. Take off your intake and remove your diverter valve piping. It's very simple should take you about 15 min. If you need help give us a call we will walk you though it. Make sure you have a clean rag handy to clean the oil out. I'm so positive there is oil in ALL of the pipes that I'm willing to let 5 local cars come down. We will remove the pipe. If there is no oil we will pay for a dyno or give you $150 cash :drinking: |
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No need I'm not saying there is no oil present or your product is bad. I believe it does what it was design to do. When or if this turns out to be a problem later on down the road I'm sure someone will sue BMW and force them to fix it. I owned a VW that had the sludge problem (1.8t) and they had to repair it even though I was out of warranty. That being said who knows I might order one myself since I buy my cars and tend to keep them for more than five years. Plus I already change the oil more often than they recommend! Enjoy your Labor Day weekend!
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