BMW 135i vs. 2016 Porsche GT3 RS and McLaren MP4-12C

[jborchelt]

Great Video!

[Ginger_Extract]

Have you ever run Buttonwillow, or just the NorCal tracks? Looks like I need to get up there sometime.

[radiantm3]

Originally Posted by Elsabor67

Good driving. You have that track completely measured. I'm wondering the level of driver in the other 2 cars.

Very low. The RS and 12C should be running under 1:50's at Sonoma. I'm running 1:55's at Sonoma in a 225whp S2K on street tires.

Nice driving OP.

[1spirit]

Wow, this is crazy. Didn’t ever expect to be featured on the front page. Many thanks BIMMERPOST!!

[1spirit]

Originally Posted by Elsabor67

Good driving. You have that track completely measured. I'm wondering the level of driver in the other 2 cars.

Thanks!

The light rain earlier in the day may have “leveled the playing field” so to speak. My car was on street tires that are fairly decent in the wet. The track was wet and slippery in the previous session and probably affected them psychologically on this run.

This run group was Advanced, right before the Race prepped group. But both cars should be in the 1:40's in dry conditions.

By comparison, my current setup on stock tune and street tires is capable of running a 1:53 in dry conditions...

[1spirit]

Originally Posted by juniortabak

Its the driver not the car!!

Switch driver and I'm sure the GT3 will fly away.

I'd love to switch.

To fellow 1addicts: Don't get me wrong, I still love the 1er.

[1spirit]

Thank you all for the kind words!

Originally Posted by M3 Number 86

must have been some grandpas in those cars LOL

LOL

[1spirit]

Originally Posted by Ginger_Extract

Have you ever run Buttonwillow, or just the NorCal tracks? Looks like I need to get up there sometime.

Just the NorCal tracks. Did Buttonwillow once when the car was pretty stock. You do!

Originally Posted by radiantm3

Very low. The RS and 12C should be running under 1:50's at Sonoma. I'm running 1:55's at Sonoma in a 225whp S2K on street tires.

Nice driving OP.

I love the S2K. I need to get one.

Thanks

[shivaswrath]

Originally Posted by 1spirit

Thanks

What tracks do you usually go to these days? Never been to LVMS, how is it?

Thanks for the comment! A tune would sure be nice to have! Will add more power eventually, but I'll need to upgrade cooling and brakes before even considering that. Currently as is, engine oil temp reaches around 270-280 consistently and braking is at its limits.

You would've eaten Them alive had you upgraded with a tune/IC/BBK!

Great skills....

[Appeltje]

Seems to me the driver of the 135 is a far more better driver then from the GT3 RS and McLaren

Was able to compare my 335i JB4 on TWS against the McLaren as well....on the straight he was disappearing at the horizon but after the first two corners I was able to get close again

[Bmw doubles]

Nice driving Tex!

[1spirit]

Originally Posted by shivaswrath

You would've eaten Them alive had you upgraded with a tune/IC/BBK!

Great skills....

In due time! Will eventually upgrade to wider tires (255/275) too.

[1spirit]

Originally Posted by Appeltje

Seems to me the driver of the 135 is a far more better driver then from the GT3 RS and McLaren

Was able to compare my 335i JB4 on TWS against the McLaren as well....on the straight he was disappearing at the horizon but after the first two corners I was able to get close again

Thanks, I probably invested more in the driver mod more than the other drivers. I've been very fortunate to have had some great coaches. IMHO the driver mod is the most important mod, arguably more important than the car itself!

[1spirit]

Originally Posted by Bmw doubles

Nice driving Tex!

First time I've been called that But thanks!

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by 1spirit

Thanks!

The light rain earlier in the day may have “leveled the playing field” so to speak. My car was on street tires that are fairly decent in the wet. The track was wet and slippery in the previous session and probably affected them psychologically on this run.

This run group was Advanced, right before the Race prepped group. But both cars should be in the 1:40's in dry conditions.

By comparison, my current setup on stock tune and street tires is capable of running a 1:53 in dry conditions...

Nice driving !

I thought at the 4:30 second mark you were in too hot, but kept with it and kept hauling ! Momentum car for the win !

[Murph335]

Awesome driving skills! Hurts my pride to see a stock tune n54 at the track ! No supras or gtr owners run a stock tune bc its sacrilegious to the platform!

Pick up an fmic $500, used cobb v2 $350, add 5 gal e85, or 100oct for insurance.

If it gets hot switch to stock tune in the pits.

Ive never gone into limp my cars are much heavier too. The 3 other jb4 n54 with me went into limp including 335is (extra cooling).

Excellent driving skills! Compliment your skills by running a mild tune like map 2 with some higher octane and start crushing exotics! Then post another video!

[bradleyland]

Great video! Love how you use up all the track exiting 3A. Seen plenty of Sonoma videos where everyone seems terrified of that outside curb. I mean, what could be so scary, it's just an off-camber, blind-crest, right-hander. What's so scary? On stock brakes, that downhill braking zone in to #4 must be terrifying. Way to make the best use of your tools

[acdHQK713K]

Originally Posted by Liquidpaper

Never forget -- Driver >>>>> Car

+1

This has very little to do with the cars and everything to do with drivers. The guy can wheel. He would have kept up in an Accord.

[conradb]

Not sure what you're trying to prove here about the car? A professional driver in a Honda R type would probably be able to keep up with someone who was horrible in a GT3 RS on circuit (or maybe one who isn't pushing it due to track conditions).

The numbers the RS puts down are mind bending. You'd be nothing short of doing major, expensive re-engineering of the 1er to keep up, equal driving considered.

[raysspl]

Keep up? It sure can

[1spirit]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

Nice driving !

I thought at the 4:30 second mark you were in too hot, but kept with it and kept hauling ! Momentum car for the win !

Thanks !

Agree! If I were in the other cars, I’d treat them like momentum cars as well. It’s all about conserving precious momentum...it's the currency of the race track!

[1spirit]

Originally Posted by Murph335

Awesome driving skills! Hurts my pride to see a stock tune n54 at the track ! No supras or gtr owners run a stock tune bc its sacrilegious to the platform!

Pick up an fmic $500, used cobb v2 $350, add 5 gal e85, or 100oct for insurance.

If it gets hot switch to stock tune in the pits.

Ive never gone into limp my cars are much heavier too. The 3 other jb4 n54 with me went into limp including 335is (extra cooling).

Excellent driving skills! Compliment your skills by running a mild tune like map 2 with some higher octane and start crushing exotics! Then post another video!

You’re absolutely right! But there is another issue, brakes! Pad fade and sinking pedal. Car barely stops as is with stock power, been quite a challenge to brake consistently. Stopping distances increase after every lap and I’ve been dealing with it by braking much earlier than I’d like!

I’ll be moving up to Castrol SRF on the next brake fluid change. Motul RBF 600 / 660 has been the best so far, but the pedal still gets very soft.

lol thanks again! Honestly, I still feel there’s still more skill to be developed from the stock tune. I’ll “graduate” to a tune eventually! Of course, I’ll be sure to post a video if that ever happens haha.