AUTOCAR UK test drives the new Direct Injection 330i

E90Fleet · 05-20-2006, 10:59 AM

Short article here

http://www.autocarmagazine.co.uk/Fir...p?RT_ID=219953

E90Fleet · 05-20-2006, 11:01 AM

"A brief run around the city showed that the new engine has real bite and punch, feeling a touch more aggressive than today’s 330i unit despite the official figures. At this stage of the development there’s a subtle but clear change in engine note, too. It’s less of a turbine hum and a tad gruffer – put it down to the new injection system.

On-board live fuel economy monitoring equipment showed clearly that hard acceleration hits economy more than you’d think. But our in-cabin BMW engineer’s kit demonstrated that relaxed driving in stop-start conditions would return around 40mpg – virtually the same as offered by the diesel 330d"

stressdoc · 05-20-2006, 02:18 PM

Nice. A 330 with a bit more power and 35mpg in US conditions. Wow.

MIKEYMIKE · 05-20-2006, 02:24 PM

I'm sorry this question has been asked about 3483593458905 times...

So, is the 2007 E90 in US going to have this direct injenction (DI) technology?

E90Fleet · 05-20-2006, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIKEYMIKE

I'm sorry this question has been asked about 3483593458905 times...

So, is the 2007 E90 in US going to have this direct injenction (DI) technology?

BMW said in their release that only selected European countries with the correct fuel would get the DI E92 330i, so I assume the same applies to the E90

I think this is part of the reason the USA is getting the 328i E92, which isnt DI

MIKEYMIKE · 05-20-2006, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E90Fleet

BMW said in their release that only selected European countries with the correct fuel would get the DI E92 330i, so I assume the same applies to the E90

I think this is part of the reason the USA is getting the 328i E92, which isnt DI

Ok, got ya.

Thanks again Fleet.

stressdoc · 05-20-2006, 02:48 PM

A relatively uninformed source told me a couple months ago that late spring 2007 earliest, 2008 MY likely.

RichReg · 05-20-2006, 04:36 PM

I'm sorry this question has been asked about 348359345890 and 1 times...

...how come the U.S. can get a Direct Injection 335i THIS YEAR and not a Direct Injection anything else?

visor · 05-20-2006, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichReg

I'm sorry this question has been asked about 348359345890 and 1 times...

...how come the U.S. can get a Direct Injection 335i THIS YEAR and not a Direct Injection anything else?

Fleet has mentioned before that it is the catalytic converters that are unable to handle the sulfur in our North American fuel during lean burn mode.

As such, the DI turbo has been modified to NOT run in lean burn mode in North America. As for the non-turbo DI engine, I guess BMW could have released it in North Am. w/o lean burn, but that would negate the supposed 10-12% fuel savings that it provides.

So, my guess is that the 335i being a low volume high end car, BMW didn't really worry too much about fuel consumption in introducing it to North Am. It'll be interesting to compare the fuel consumption figures between the EU vs. the North Am. 335i versions.

RichReg · 05-20-2006, 05:40 PM

So basically this must mean that the 335's fuel economy in the U.S. will not be as good as the 335s in other parts of the world, where they have the correct fuel. Until we get the correct fuel, and the "lean-burn" version of the engine. Now I get it....

Only in the good ol' USA!

E90Fleet · 05-20-2006, 06:04 PM

We still need to find out what BMW have done to the 335i so it can run in the USA

David328M-Sport · 05-20-2006, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E90Fleet

BMW said in their release that only selected European countries with the correct fuel would get the DI E92 330i, so I assume the same applies to the E90

I think this is part of the reason the USA is getting the 328i E92, which isnt DI

The rollout is due to varying levels of sulphur in the fuel. Those countries that have no sulphur fuel content will be the first to receive the DI engine.

The speed of the engine rollout will depend on how quickly the fule quality changes.

Now, I'm wondering about a new DI car being driven on holidays to another European country that does not support the DI car just yet. Oops, sorry can't holiday there with the DI car. Oh well, be patient.

RichReg · 05-20-2006, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E90Fleet

We still need to find out what BMW have done to the 335i so it can run in the USA

Thanks Fleet....I guess that was my real question.

If I remember correctly, the 760 has Direct Injection but doesn't have a lean burn mode, correct?
Maybe the answer lies in that engine somewhere?

E90Fleet · 05-20-2006, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David325Australia

The rollout is due to varying levels of sulphur in the fuel. Those countries that have no sulphur fuel content will be the first to receive the DI engine.

The speed of the engine rollout will depend on how quickly the fule quality changes.

Now, I'm wondering about a new DI car being driven on holidays to another European country that does not support the DI car just yet. Oops, sorry can't holiday there with the DI car. Oh well, be patient.

The press release said it would be OK to go on holiday or temp work periods in countries without the correct fuel, but extended stays would reduce the life of the cats

E90Fleet · 05-20-2006, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichReg

Thanks Fleet....I guess that was my real question.

If I remember correctly, the 760 has Direct Injection but doesn't have a lean burn mode, correct?
Maybe the answer lies in that engine somewhere?

760i uses the 1st generation DI technology, which doesnt have lean burn modes.

BMW is the first manufacturer outside Japan to release the 2nd Generation system

David328M-Sport · 05-20-2006, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E90Fleet

The press release said it would be OK to go on holiday or temp work periods in countries without the correct fuel, but extended stays would reduce the life of the cats

I personally would be hesitant to fuel my DI car with any fuel other than the fuel most suited to it. I would holiday around the countryside where I would be guaranteed the best fuel. Just my POV.

E90Fleet · 05-20-2006, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David325Australia

I personally would be hesitant to fuel my DI car with any fuel other than the fuel most suited to it. I would holiday around the countryside where I would be guaranteed the best fuel. Just my POV.

I believe you fortunately cannot drive your car to another country, atleast thats what it looks like on a map

David328M-Sport · 05-20-2006, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E90Fleet

I believe you fortunately cannot drive your car to another country, atleast thats what it looks like on a map

So I'm safe with my Shell Optimax 98RON zoom, zoom petrol then. Phew!!!

visor · 05-20-2006, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E90Fleet

I believe you fortunately cannot drive your car to another country, atleast thats what it looks like on a map

RichReg · 05-20-2006, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E90Fleet

I believe you fortunately cannot drive your car to another country, atleast thats what it looks like on a map

What?
You didn't hear about the Quandt family's investment in the new bridge?

Its awesome.....and BMWs pay no tolls.

PersonaNonGrata · 05-20-2006, 11:36 PM

It could be worse. In most parts of California, 91 octane is about as good as it gets. You can find some specialty places that sell 100+ but it's very, very expensive.

Heck, even software upgrades are limited because of California's 91 octane and when I wanted a Conforti Shark Injector for my M3 back in the day, I couldn't because it was not designed for 91.

tctic · 05-21-2006, 03:07 PM

That's quite an impressive improvement in fuel consumption. And as importantly, performance seemed to have improved at the same time.

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