Reacquainted with RFT's

angler · 03-31-2013, 05:57 AM

It's been a while since I drove a car with rft's. On my old E92 I switched them out before I picked the car up from the dealer. When I picked up my new 135i vert on Friday I decided not to change them out since its still going to snow at some point this month so I figured I could deal with them for a month or so before ordering new tires. That was a mistake! It's baffling to me how a company that prides themselves on the ultimate driving machine can put such garbage on the four corners of the car.

: New tires will be ordered today!

ptack · 03-31-2013, 01:08 PM

They figure the average BMW buyer doesn't care or can't tell the difference and it's a nice perk for dealers (drive that deflated runcrap right over and we'll replace it for you for only $500-600, unless you need a whole set which we also might have to sell you).

IDBMW · 03-31-2013, 02:23 PM

Yup! My third BMW with run flats. Last two BMW’s I had non-run flats within a week on taking possession of the car. I buy wheel, tires and TPMS. When I sell the car I put the nruncraps back on and do well at selling the aftermarket wheel, tires and TPMS package.

Adam135 · 03-31-2013, 04:42 PM

It's like a totally different car once you have real tires installed. Michelin PSS!

PA135i · 03-31-2013, 05:10 PM

Except that you give up the tighter handling the run-flats provide, because of the stiffer sidewall and BMW has tuned the suspension for them.

I have used both non-runflats and the OEM Tires.
The non-runflats give a better ride but you lose some sharpness in handling.
Wish I could find a non-runflat that gives the same handling.

Next might be the Michelin PSS or Bridgestone RE11.

Cemoto · 03-31-2013, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ptack

They figure the average BMW buyer doesn't care or can't tell the difference and it's a nice perk for dealers (drive that deflated runcrap right over and we'll replace it for you for only $500-600, unless you need a whole set which we also might have to sell you).

Especially since you can't even replace a wheel/tire because they don't give you a key to the lugs!

I was told "drive it over here and we will find out which key you need then order it from Germany - it will take about a week - that will be $45 please."

I bought four new lugs instead. The PSS were installed a few days later.

Oh, and the PSS are awesome! Thanks for the recommendation Dack.

03-31-2013, 05:57 AM	#1
angler love to fish! 46 Rep 649 Posts Drives: 13: SG 135i M-Sport Cabrio 6mt Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: riding in the ultimate tanning machine iTrader: (1)	Reacquainted with RFT's It's been a while since I drove a car with rft's. On my old E92 I switched them out before I picked the car up from the dealer. When I picked up my new 135i vert on Friday I decided not to change them out since its still going to snow at some point this month so I figured I could deal with them for a month or so before ordering new tires. That was a mistake! It's baffling to me how a company that prides themselves on the ultimate driving machine can put such garbage on the four corners of the car. : New tires will be ordered today!
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ptack Brigadier General 269 Rep 4,470 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: May 2008 Location: NJ iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 135i [6.50]	They figure the average BMW buyer doesn't care or can't tell the difference and it's a nice perk for dealers (drive that deflated runcrap right over and we'll replace it for you for only $500-600, unless you need a whole set which we also might have to sell you). __________________ 135i, SGM, Coral, Sport Package, Auto, Premium Hifi, USB/ipod, Apex EC-7s, PPK Stage II
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IDBMW Captain 41 Rep 825 Posts Drives: 2019 X3 M40i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boise, ID iTrader: (0)	Yup! My third BMW with run flats. Last two BMW’s I had non-run flats within a week on taking possession of the car. I buy wheel, tires and TPMS. When I sell the car I put the nruncraps back on and do well at selling the aftermarket wheel, tires and TPMS package. __________________ 2019 X3 M40i - Black Sapphire Metallic - Mocha Lather - 21" 718M wheels - Every option except Sun Shade
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Adam135 Captain 75 Rep 961 Posts Drives: 2014 435i Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: USA iTrader: (2)	It's like a totally different car once you have real tires installed. Michelin PSS!
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PA135i Brigadier General 968 Rep 3,323 Posts Drives: 08 135i 08 CR-V Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pennsylvania iTrader: (0)	Except that you give up the tighter handling the run-flats provide, because of the stiffer sidewall and BMW has tuned the suspension for them. I have used both non-runflats and the OEM Tires. The non-runflats give a better ride but you lose some sharpness in handling. Wish I could find a non-runflat that gives the same handling. Next might be the Michelin PSS or Bridgestone RE11.
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