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      08-30-2012, 11:24 PM   #221
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That's a shame, very sad to see nice metal ruined. Hopefully the driver was okay.

I think it probably wasn't setup very well. My few test drives have been extremely balanced and lovely - the car is very manageable - I found.

Mine had terrible tyres on that had hardened so had a few lairy moments but the car let me know!

Just read an article on lotus, are you getting the new V6 version???? if so i am jealous beyond words that looks amazing.

the one i saw was definately a 4 cylinder.

Sorry Sparoz - threadjack.
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My target is GT3 times - not sure if I will get there, but that's the aim.
Gotta say and my comments may seem inflammatory but -Oh well.

First and foremost I think your car and all you are doing to is amazing. It will undeniably be one of the most tastefully and well researched 1Ms in Australia possibly the world.

I suspect your car and would love to be proved wrong is one of these awesome cars that are modified more for "Show rather than go" This in itself is a valid reason. As far as I'm concerned being of a hedonistic nature, anything that gives pleasure is a good thing.
I believe that your comment in regard to GT3 times infers that you either wish to (a) personally achieve these times or (b) have a car that is capable of these times.
I personally hope it is the former.?
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Gotta say and my comments may seem inflammatory but -Oh well.

First and foremost I think your car and all you are doing to is amazing. It will undeniably be one of the most tastefully and well researched 1Ms in Australia possibly the world.

I suspect your car and would love to be proved wrong is one of these awesome cars that are modified more for "Show rather than go" This in itself is a valid reason. As far as I'm concerned being of a hedonistic nature, anything that gives pleasure is a good thing.
I believe that your comment in regard to GT3 times infers that you either wish to (a) personally achieve these times or (b) have a car that is capable of these times.
I personally hope it is the former.?

blthhhhhttttttttttttssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhh lol lol lol lol wouldn't you need a car capable of those times in order to achieve those times, that argument just went arse first dude, let him modify the fuck out of it, its fun, and we all want to see the result
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Gotta say and my comments may seem inflammatory but -Oh well.

First and foremost I think your car and all you are doing to is amazing. It will undeniably be one of the most tastefully and well researched 1Ms in Australia possibly the world.

I suspect your car and would love to be proved wrong is one of these awesome cars that are modified more for "Show rather than go" This in itself is a valid reason. As far as I'm concerned being of a hedonistic nature, anything that gives pleasure is a good thing.
I believe that your comment in regard to GT3 times infers that you either wish to (a) personally achieve these times or (b) have a car that is capable of these times.
I personally hope it is the former.?
Don't mean to be rude, but does it really matter?

I think Steve is doing a brilliant job with his car and he's nice enough to spend a lot time meticulously updating us on the progress. I think the community as a whole benefits from his empirical approach.

If you've got nothing positive to add - don't bother.
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blthhhhhttttttttttttssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhh lol lol lol lol wouldn't you need a car capable of those times in order to achieve those times, that argument just went arse first dude, let him modify the fuck out of it, its fun, and we all want to see the result
What argument ?
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If you've got nothing positive to add - don't bother.
Good on you. Please quote the non positive section of my comment.

You sound a bit like my mum
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If you've got nothing positive to add - don't bother.
Good on you. Please quote the non positive section of my comment.

You sound a bit like my mum
M drivers are a little high strung on this forum....

Pretty sure all you were asking is that you hope to see this car used for its purpose? Ie all these upgrades are perfect for the track, when are we going to see it at a track day to try and see how close it gets to gt3 times?

I wanna see it too, especially if some of these rumors about brakes I hear are true!
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You sound a bit like my mum
Sounds like a smart lady.
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Pretty sure all you were asking is that you hope to see this car used for its purpose? Ie all these upgrades are perfect for the track, when are we going to see it at a track day to try and see how close it gets to gt3 times?
If that is in fact what was being said, then I have jumped gun - please accept my apologies.
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Thanks everyone for their support and kind comments (including koastal's ). I deal with inflammation everyday, so this is not necessarily new .

In response to koastal, I actually think he has hit a very important point.

A car strictly modified for 'Go' will be stripped down, and modifications would be focusing on bang for buck mods, eg who needs an akra if you can just put in a straight pipe? A car modified for Show means that the parts will have little impact on performance of the car, like a repaint, a new style boot lid without consideration of its aero, or wheels that looks the bucks does not put any performance in the car.

I like to say mine would be both Show and Go. The end goal is to have a car that is of a quality that is better than OEM. I see this as a 1M improvement project rather than a modification project. The finished car would be something that is worthy to be a new model - something beyond ///M.

With work requiring plenty of my attention at the moment, I don't think I would be able to test out the parts till closer to the end of the year. Once we got some baselines, then I will have to see how close I can get after improving its suspension setup.
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      08-31-2012, 09:42 AM   #232
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If that is in fact what was being said, then I have jumped gun - please accept my apologies.
Haha, it's okay. I told a couple of people when the word and a certain 1M was mentioned and I didn't know how to response to the question. I did mention specifically not to mention it in the forum and I guess no one has actually said it out.

I have also mentioned the English Car too. Thought about posting a picture of it but restrained myself .
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      08-31-2012, 10:05 AM   #233
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M drivers are a little high strung on this forum....
(You <> Michael; You = everyone)

Many has been in the past twelve months and it is not just M drivers. Honestly, we all do very well to be able to afford a BMW - we are smart people. Some of the arguments that has come out had been naive and illogical along the lines of I have got a bigger exhaust therefore my car goes faster. FFS we don't drive xxxxxxs.

We are all BMW lovers - I think we should all screw our heads on when we post. If you are going to be dry, do it like Kenny - nice, short and to the point.

Let's all move on and give some respect to each other.
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(You <> Michael; You = everyone)

Many has been in the past twelve months and it is not just M drivers. Honestly, we all do very well to be able to afford a BMW - we are smart people. Some of the arguments that has come out had been naive and illogical along the lines of I have got a bigger exhaust therefore my car goes faster. FFS we don't drive xxxxxxs.

We are all BMW lovers - I think we should all screw our heads on when we post. If you are going to be dry, do it like Kenny - nice, short and to the point.

Let's all move on and give some respect to each other.
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Just read an article on lotus, are you getting the new V6 version???? if so i am jealous beyond words that looks amazing.

the one i saw was definately a 4 cylinder.

Sorry Sparoz - threadjack.
I wish! The new Exige S & 260 Cup are terrific bits of kit. I just can't justify the asking price of 2 x price of 4-cynlinder car for a poorer power-weight ratio and some admittedly very cool electronics.

The one I'm getting is a few years old and all the track car I'm going to be able to stomach!
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Like to thank sverma for his quick and wonderful service. I am quite surprised with the attention to detail with the packing, with the bubble wrap etc.

Now, I just need to wait for the file to come back. .
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      08-31-2012, 10:45 AM   #237
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Stock tune vs ESS - reverse review

I have just flashed the car back to stock and I found it is a great opportunity to compare stock and ESS again. Often you have to review a mod from without to with, and not often you get a chance to experience the other way around, unless you are AlpineM3E92 who has a stock AND a ESS tuned 1M!

You can find my original post here:

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=614477

As soon as I jumped in the car, I can feel the 'lack of power' in the lower rev range. Now I understand why I said the power delivery was smoother and more drivable with the ESS tune. I think the problem lay with the overboost function of stock. The delivery of the ESS is immediate, whilst power kicks in around 3.5k with the stock tune. This two stage delivery from the stock file actually make day to day driving less predictable. Yes, it felt amazing when you hit 3.5k but I would rather have the power on tap right from the start.

I can understand why BMW would have tuned it this way. In second gear with ESS tune, with stock tyres and wheels you would lose traction WOT making the extra power useless. However, what about right foot modulation?

Unfortunately, I have to cut short my review as Evolve just sent me back my tuned file. Not going to start the car at 1:42am, but will definitely try it first thing.
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      08-31-2012, 04:37 PM   #238
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Only true test is back to back dynos.... Other than that it is just a guessing game of butt-dyno
Hopefully, it will happen today with your car for the Evolve . The difference was quite large though, and it refreshed my memory how the stock file was tuned. I recall a few were disappointed with ESS and I think the issue was that they can no longer few the kick at 3.5k.
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Thanks everyone for their support and kind comments (including koastal's ).
With work requiring plenty of my attention at the moment, I don't think I would be able to test out the parts till closer to the end of the year. Once we got some baselines, then I will have to see how close I can get after improving its suspension setup.
Work must be hell busy. Do you not have staff ?

Haven't got much on myself besides looking after 8 display homes and another 9 under construction. That's the good thing about track days. Fill up the tank take the laptop out and have a fang. 5 mins later your back on the job.

Your gonna need some practice sometime to get the most out of that awesome car. Nothing worse than getting whupped by some teenager in their ful sic civic.
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Work must be hell busy. Do you not have staff ?

Haven't got much on myself besides looking after 8 display homes and another 9 under construction. That's the good thing about track days. Fill up the tank take the laptop out and have a fang. 5 mins later your back on the job.

Your gonna need some practice sometime to get the most out of that awesome car. Nothing worse than getting whupped by some teenager in their ful sic civic.
It was under a consultancy's management whilst me and my wife was on parental leave. We had to kick them out, and now fixing up the mess. Staff has been good through the change, but a bit too much for them to handle.

Yes, definitely got to practice otherwise someone will claim an echo is faster than a M car.
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      09-03-2012, 09:15 PM   #241
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Just done the full review for the evolve-r stage 1 here:

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=739977
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It was under a consultancy's management whilst me and my wife was on parental leave. We had to kick them out, and now fixing up the mess. Staff has been good through the change, but a bit too much for them to handle.

Yes, definitely got to practice otherwise someone will claim an echo is faster than a M car.
Clearly you hired the wrong consultancy :P How's tricks Steve?
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