JB4 vs Procede V5 vs Cobb Accessport?

imported_mega · 04-05-2011, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by adrean8j

^^^So just get something like the JB+ then if you don't need the extra bells and whistles and just want a little extra power...

jb+ is substantially down on power compared to the jb4/proceed and cobb tune for pump gas and only a dci/catback

adrean8j · 04-05-2011, 06:19 AM

Yeah I know that...but you don't want all the bells and whistles...I guess you just want whatever makes the "most" power? In that case I think both piggybacks should be about equal...and any tune that reflashes your ECU should be roughly equal as well....

imported_mega · 04-05-2011, 06:24 AM

what makes the most sense for a car that will not see meth, or downpipes or big turbo's

my consideration factors are ease of installation, features and cost, if cobb gives up some critical feature to another, then I should just get a piggyback

if the end result is pretty close for a relatively stock car, then the cobb's ease of installation is a clear winner for me

but does the cobb do lagfix?

adrean8j · 04-05-2011, 06:28 AM

^^^I cannot comment on whether the Cobb does lagfix or not...I guess you could email them and find out though. It seems to me for your purpose that a ECU reflash would be the best bet..so you could "set it and forget it"......

FORCED AIR · 04-05-2011, 10:53 PM

everyone has their opinion and most of us are tired of arguing about it....but since you mentioned wanted to know which wast fastest

this would probably be the best spot to look

http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW--135i-Drag-Racing.html

http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW--335i-Drag-Racing.html

Personally...the piggys are better proven as of yet on our cars. Flashes are always nice, but these aren't your normal piggyback tuners.

You can't beat the customer service you get with the JB...i don't know how they put so much time into helping everyone honestly.

As for most of the advantages you hear about one over the other...make sure you understand what the catching names we have for things around this community actually refer to.....and how/if they do anything you should consider.

You'll be happy anyway you go.....other than DINAN...

sargetony · 04-06-2011, 02:03 AM

Here is another one for you to look at

Top Drag times and Dyno numbers:
http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9170

It was last updated in December, which I think is fine considering that there was probably not a lot to report over the winter. Also, with the JB4 just coming out, it has just JB3 and others.

adrean8j · 04-06-2011, 02:10 AM

^^^Not good example IMHO as N54tech is controlled by Terry/Mike and company so there is an inherent bias....

1speedbike · 04-06-2011, 10:40 AM

slight differences in the cars, but you get the picture

imported_mega · 04-06-2011, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by adrean8j

^^^I cannot comment on whether the Cobb does lagfix or not...I guess you could email them and find out though. It seems to me for your purpose that a ECU reflash would be the best bet..so you could "set it and forget it"......

that's what I was thinking, for me the cobb setup wins the argument but not by much

VALAS135i · 04-06-2011, 01:52 PM

These threads are pointless. Everyone is going to be bias based on what tune they have. For me I love my procede, the next guy loves his JB and so on. I highly doubt many people here can say they have accurately tested the different tunes and make a educated comment on it.

PS: Procede FTW, LOL

imported_mega · 04-06-2011, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by VALAS135i

These threads are pointless. Everyone is going to be bias based on what tune they have. For me I love my procede, the next guy loves his JB and so on. I highly doubt many people here can say they have accurately tested the different tunes and make a educated comment on it.

PS: Procede FTW, LOL

that's why there's that feature list comparison sticky

but cobb's not on it yet

mosx · 04-06-2011, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by imported_mega

but does the cobb do lagfix?

From my understanding you don't need a band-aid like "lag-fix" when you're reflashing the ECU with a new map. Dinan, GIAC and all the other flashes don't have a "lag-fix" because they aren't tricking the stock programming like piggy backs do. Its a whole new map all together, so there is no "lag" to fix.

imported_mega · 04-06-2011, 04:54 PM

very good to know, another + for cobb for me

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imported_mega Colonel 122 Rep 2,199 Posts Drives: various bmw's Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: neverland iTrader: (0)	very good to know, another + for cobb for me __________________ You only need two tools in life - WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40. If it shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape. Driving e82, e72, e85, R53 Gone but not forgotten.. 1974 2002, many various 3s.
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