D-Force LTW5 17" Question

135iDCT · 06-09-2013, 04:46 PM

What tire size should i fit with no rubbing for ltw5 17" 40 offset all rims 8.5 width, stock suspension

John_01 · 06-09-2013, 09:06 PM

225/45/17 front and 245/40/17 rear. It might be close to the fenders depending which tire brand you choose. You could also consider using the 17x8" ET40 rim on the front.

135iDCT · 06-09-2013, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by John_01

225/45/17 front and 245/40/17 rear. It might be close to the fenders depending which tire brand you choose. You could also consider using the 17x8" ET40 rim on the front.

can i fit 235/40/17 in the front?
i'll use toyo r888 tire or nitto 555

John_01 · 06-09-2013, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 135iDCT

can i fit 235/40/17 in the front?
i'll use toyo r888 tire or nitto 555

With stock wheel alignment it would rub the fender. If you add camber plates it should be possible.

PrematureApex · 06-10-2013, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 135iDCT

can i fit 235/40/17 in the front?
i'll use toyo r888 tire or nitto 555

Totally different tires there. The NT01 is closer to the R888 (even closer to the RA1).

The Toyos and NT01s will run wide, max may be a 235/40. Otherwise, on most street tires, you can run a 245/40 17 with some camber.

dcaron9999 · 12-19-2013, 08:11 AM

Using the LTW5 17x8.5, what is the max width R compound tire I can fit for a square setup?

My 135i has camber plates, and probably looking at Swift R spec springs and Koni Sport dampers soon.

3002 tii · 12-19-2013, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dcaron9999

Using the LTW5 17x8.5, what is the max width R compound tire I can fit for a square setup?

My 135i has camber plates, and probably looking at Swift R spec springs and Koni Sport dampers soon.

Assuming a 40 offset, 245 seems possible if you roll fenders, else 235 most likely.

As much as I like a square setup for rotation, with enough camber and wide rubbers up front, I'd almost prefer to run staggered and not sacrifice rubber in the rear considering how much power this car puts down.

PrematureApex · 12-19-2013, 11:33 AM

Yeah, on some more true-to-size summers, you may be able to get away with 245/40 all around on a 17x8, ET40. Even without adding a bit of camber.

Once when you are into the meatier tires though, they'll probably rub under heavy compression.

John_01 · 12-19-2013, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 3002 Tii

Assuming a 40 offset, 245 seems possible if you roll fenders, else 235 most likely.

I tend to agree with this. 245/40/17 will be close on the rear too. I have the 245/40/17 Toyo R888 on 17x8 ET45 wheels for the rear. Pics are here. It fits very nicely with a couple of mm fender clearance without fender mods. The 17x8.5" rim will be a better fit for these chunky tires, but its going to be closer to the fender. With a fender roll, it should be possible to fit the Toyo R888 245/40/17 on the rear, but be careful with other brands of R-comps that are probably even wider.

clutch128 · 02-24-2014, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 135iDCT

can i fit 235/40/17 in the front?
i'll use toyo r888 tire or nitto 555

I run this setup with R888's. Somewhat oddly the rear is my nemesis. I've rolled the rear fenders such that they now barely rub.

What did you end up going with?

jafo1701 · 03-08-2014, 08:39 PM

I can run 245s square on my 135i with the LTW5s. No rubbing. Suspension is lowered with swift springs and I have Dinan plates up front along with the M3 arms. I run -2.5 camber in the front and rear. Tires are Michelin Pilot Super Sports. I've run autocross and track days with this and have not had any problems. This year I'm going to run Apex ARC8s 18s 235s front /255 rear with Hancook RS3s.

clutch128 · 03-08-2014, 11:32 PM

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I can run 245s square on my 135i with the LTW5s. No rubbing. Suspension is lowered with swift springs and I have Dinan plates up front along with the M3 arms. I run -2.5 camber in the front and rear. Tires are Michelin Pilot Super Sports. I've run autocross and track days with this and have not had any problems. This year I'm going to run Apex ARC8s 18s 235s front /255 rear with Hancook RS3s.

The Hancooks I would suspect will be a bit more square on the sidewalls than the Super Sports. But, the ARC8s are a much better fit for the car in terms of offsets, particularly on the rear. I just ordered four 8.5" ARC8s and plan to run 235's on all four corners. I don't quite have your power

dcaron9999 · 03-15-2014, 04:54 PM

Another crazy scenario:

In the interest of saving a few buck on wheels, would a Toyo R888 or other R compound 225/45R17 square setup be adequate for the track on a lightly modded 135i (see signature)?

The idea is that my winter wheel setup (OEM BMW style 73, 17x7 ET47 wheels) is noticeably lighter than my style 261 wheels, and R compound adherence would compensate for slightly skinnier tires in the back.

My concern is putting power down in the rear (135i with Quaife LSD).

The diameter size of the 225/45R17 R888 is 0.1" smaller than my current rear Re-11 255/35R18 tires. The width would be about 0.5" narrower.

clutch128 · 03-15-2014, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dcaron9999

Another crazy scenario:

In the interest of saving a few buck on wheels, would a Toyo R888 or other R compound 225/45R17 square setup be adequate for the track on a lightly modded 135i (see signature)?

The idea is that my winter wheel setup (OEM BMW style 73, 17x7 ET47 wheels) is noticeably lighter than my style 261 wheels, and R compound adherence would compensate for slightly skinnier tires in the back.

My concern is putting power down in the rear (135i with Quaife LSD).

The diameter size of the 225/45R17 R888 is 0.1" smaller than my current rear Re-11 255/35R18 tires. The width would be about 0.5" narrower.

well, you may not get the best times in the world, but it will certainly be exciting exiting corners!

dcaron9999 · 03-23-2014, 05:54 AM

Yeah, I changed my mind on that idea. Will stick with stock rims for now (style 261), and probably next year, Ill get a set of wider Apex EC-7/Arc-8, VMR V810, or Forgestar F14's rims with new rubber.

miggs · 03-24-2014, 10:16 AM

I have 8.5 17's with a et40 i tested fitted a 225/45 tire up front and they fit with no issues on stock suspension. I'm still trying to figure out whats the most I can run on the rear I'm trying to run a 265 but without any camber delete or fender work I'm not sure if i can fit it with from what I've been reading.

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dcaron9999 Major 157 Rep 1,409 Posts Drives: 2011 135i M package Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Mirabel, Quebec iTrader: (0)	Using the LTW5 17x8.5, what is the max width R compound tire I can fit for a square setup? My 135i has camber plates, and probably looking at Swift R spec springs and Koni Sport dampers soon. __________________ 2011 X3 35i with M pack + 2011 135i w/6SPMT \| 255 square tire setup \| Quaife 3.46 LSD \| Diff lock down bracket \| Bilstein B8+Swift SpecR springs+H&R FSB \| CDV delete \| BMS Oil Tstat bypass \| ER FMIC & CP \| N54Tuning DP \| GC Street Camber Plates \| M3 FCA +guide rods+RSFB's+Tranny mounts \| Manzo toe arms \| Cobb Stg2 agressive tune \| Hawk DTC70 brake pads \| RB SS brake pistons \| Goodridge SS brake lines \| Custom brake cooling ducts
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PrematureApex Colonel 840 Rep 2,402 Posts Drives: N55 X1, N54 135, s54 m3 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Philadelphia iTrader: (0)	Yeah, on some more true-to-size summers, you may be able to get away with 245/40 all around on a 17x8, ET40. Even without adding a bit of camber. Once when you are into the meatier tires though, they'll probably rub under heavy compression.
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jafo1701 Second Lieutenant 39 Rep 257 Posts Drives: 2011 135i, 2016 VW GTI Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Iowa iTrader: (0)	I can run 245s square on my 135i with the LTW5s. No rubbing. Suspension is lowered with swift springs and I have Dinan plates up front along with the M3 arms. I run -2.5 camber in the front and rear. Tires are Michelin Pilot Super Sports. I've run autocross and track days with this and have not had any problems. This year I'm going to run Apex ARC8s 18s 235s front /255 rear with Hancook RS3s.
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dcaron9999 Major 157 Rep 1,409 Posts Drives: 2011 135i M package Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Mirabel, Quebec iTrader: (0)	Another crazy scenario: In the interest of saving a few buck on wheels, would a Toyo R888 or other R compound 225/45R17 square setup be adequate for the track on a lightly modded 135i (see signature)? The idea is that my winter wheel setup (OEM BMW style 73, 17x7 ET47 wheels) is noticeably lighter than my style 261 wheels, and R compound adherence would compensate for slightly skinnier tires in the back. My concern is putting power down in the rear (135i with Quaife LSD). The diameter size of the 225/45R17 R888 is 0.1" smaller than my current rear Re-11 255/35R18 tires. The width would be about 0.5" narrower. __________________ 2011 X3 35i with M pack + 2011 135i w/6SPMT \| 255 square tire setup \| Quaife 3.46 LSD \| Diff lock down bracket \| Bilstein B8+Swift SpecR springs+H&R FSB \| CDV delete \| BMS Oil Tstat bypass \| ER FMIC & CP \| N54Tuning DP \| GC Street Camber Plates \| M3 FCA +guide rods+RSFB's+Tranny mounts \| Manzo toe arms \| Cobb Stg2 agressive tune \| Hawk DTC70 brake pads \| RB SS brake pistons \| Goodridge SS brake lines \| Custom brake cooling ducts
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dcaron9999 Major 157 Rep 1,409 Posts Drives: 2011 135i M package Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Mirabel, Quebec iTrader: (0)	Yeah, I changed my mind on that idea. Will stick with stock rims for now (style 261), and probably next year, Ill get a set of wider Apex EC-7/Arc-8, VMR V810, or Forgestar F14's rims with new rubber. __________________ 2011 X3 35i with M pack + 2011 135i w/6SPMT \| 255 square tire setup \| Quaife 3.46 LSD \| Diff lock down bracket \| Bilstein B8+Swift SpecR springs+H&R FSB \| CDV delete \| BMS Oil Tstat bypass \| ER FMIC & CP \| N54Tuning DP \| GC Street Camber Plates \| M3 FCA +guide rods+RSFB's+Tranny mounts \| Manzo toe arms \| Cobb Stg2 agressive tune \| Hawk DTC70 brake pads \| RB SS brake pistons \| Goodridge SS brake lines \| Custom brake cooling ducts
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miggs Lieutenant 22 Rep 406 Posts Drives: LeMans Blue 135 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: North Jersey iTrader: (4)	I have 8.5 17's with a et40 i tested fitted a 225/45 tire up front and they fit with no issues on stock suspension. I'm still trying to figure out whats the most I can run on the rear I'm trying to run a 265 but without any camber delete or fender work I'm not sure if i can fit it with from what I've been reading.
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