Fender Rolling??

marvenmassey · 09-19-2010, 10:21 AM

Hi guys,
I want to lower my 1er and get sime 19" RIMS. From everything I've read here I am sure I will need to roll my fenders. I've seen a few posting on this however I am not completely sure what it entails. Is it from the inside? Is there potential to damage the body? Can someone explain in a bit of detail which is needed? Will I need a professional etc? Any explaination I get from here may impact my decision on the RIMS and lowering.

thx!
M.

Eyeman · 09-19-2010, 10:55 AM

How far the wheels and tires poke out towards the fenders relates to whether you need to try to gain space by rolling your fenders. 19" wheels is not the issue but it is hard to find any wheels with the high offsets required on our cars to keep the wheels tucked in away from the fenders.

If your wheels rub your fenders slightly then you can often get the wheels to "fit" by decreasing or eliminating the lip around the inside bottom of the fenders. Rolling involves flattening that lip. When you try to bend metal you can crack paint. Also rolling tends to make your fenders look a little bent. Sounds like you should leave it to a professional unless you can't find one.

marvenmassey · 09-19-2010, 10:43 PM

Thx Eyeman..

fboutlaw · 09-20-2010, 12:27 AM

FYI. Fender rolling isn't a big deal. A shop can do it in an afternoon. I had it done when i bought some 18" rims with a high offset.

My advice; get the rims first. If the tires rub, get an alignment and ask for some negative camber on the offending wheels. If they still rub, roll the fenders. Will probably run you $50-100 per wheel.

marvenmassey · 09-20-2010, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by maxnix

What are you trying to accomplish in terms of performance gains or is this just for static looks?

I am doing more for the looks, want to make the 1er look a little more aggressive. Not to mention no one really sits in the car with me so rubbing in relation to added weight is not a issue.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fboutlaw

FYI. Fender rolling isn't a big deal. A shop can do it in an afternoon. I had it done when i bought some 18" rims with a high offset. My advice; get the rims first. If the tires rub, get an alignment and ask for some negative camber on the offending wheels. If they still rub, roll the fenders. Will probably run you $50-100 per wheel.

thx for the advice fboutlaw

texasmojo · 09-20-2010, 10:48 AM

I just put miro mo1 19x8.5 35 mm offset with 225/35/19 all around. Everybody will say this is too aggressive but they look great. The rear is flush and didn't need rolling. The front wheels stick out about 1/4 inch. I only rolled the front and made the fender flare out a bit and now they look flush. A wider tire would've definatly rubbed all around. Tires are barely even stretched. Looks great. I know if I drop it it will rub but I don't plan to. I can stick 1 finger between tire and fender. Last night we were 3 adults and no rub. I'm in it for the looks not racing.

texasmojo · 09-20-2010, 10:49 AM

I rented fender roller from rollyourfender.com come with heat gun.

marvenmassey · 09-20-2010, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texasmojo

I just put miro mo1 19x8.5 35 mm offset with 225/35/19 all around. Everybody will say this is too aggressive but they look great. The rear is flush and didn't need rolling. The front wheels stick out about 1/4 inch. I only rolled the front and made the fender flare out a bit and now they look flush. A wider tire would've definatly rubbed all around. Tires are barely even stretched. Looks great. I know if I drop it it will rub but I don't plan to. I can stick 1 finger between tire and fender. Last night we were 3 adults and no rub. I'm in it for the looks not racing.

Pics Pls!

I tried doing a

but did not find anything..

texasmojo · 09-20-2010, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marvenmassey

Pics Pls!

I tried doing a

but did not find anything..

I will take pics and post up tonight. These wheels look a lot nicer in person. The color is like a dark shiny silver. I got a great deal on them. Pretty sure no one can match the price.

VMRWheels · 09-20-2010, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marvenmassey

Hi guys,
I want to lower my 1er and get sime 19" RIMS. From everything I've read here I am sure I will need to roll my fenders. I've seen a few posting on this however I am not completely sure what it entails. Is it from the inside? Is there potential to damage the body? Can someone explain in a bit of detail which is needed? Will I need a professional etc? Any explaination I get from here may impact my decision on the RIMS and lowering.

thx!
M.

M,

This is what is what it looks like when fender rolling is being done. I do recommend finding a skilled professional before doing any kind of fender rolling. This can become a hit or miss situation of damaging your fender.

-Charles@VMRWheels

texasmojo · 09-20-2010, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marvenmassey

Pics Pls!

I tried doing a

but did not find anything..

First off, i took this pic off a tire fitment book from sears. This is what they recomend to stay the same size as stock tires. Oh yeah i didnt have time to wash the car or take some good pics. Just did it as fast as i could.

Front gap.

Rear gap.

rear offset.

front offset.

miro mo1

marvenmassey · 09-21-2010, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VMRWheels

M,
This is what is what it looks like when fender rolling is being done. I do recommend finding a skilled professional before doing any kind of fender rolling. This can become a hit or miss situation of damaging your fender.
-Charles@VMRWheels

thx Charles!

thx for the pics TexasMojo! Did you use spacers? Is that 128? If so, looking good

More pics would be nice!

M.

texasmojo · 09-21-2010, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marvenmassey

thx Charles!

thx for the pics TexasMojo! Did you use spacers? Is that 128? If so, looking good

More pics would be nice!

M.

No spacers, just bolted right up.128i indeed. I will wash and take better pics tomorrow.

romak47 · 09-21-2010, 10:25 AM

would i rub with a 235x35x19 tire on 8.5x19 ET45mm rim and a 1 inch drop in front??

Or should i got with same size tire as texasmojo (225x35x19 on 8.5x19) and look somewhat stretched ??

texasmojo · 09-21-2010, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by romak47

would i rub with a 235x35x19 tire on 8.5x19 ET45mm rim and a 1 inch drop in front??

Or should i got with same size tire as texasmojo (225x35x19 on 8.5x19) and look somewhat stretched ??

At 45mm rear you should be able to pull off 245/35/19 with 8.5 wide. I got a great deal with my rims and the semi stretched look does not bother me because the wheel and tire is still flush in the rear. If you do a drop you may have to go with 235. Buy a higher offset. For the rear if you want to max out tire width.

1013mm · 09-21-2010, 01:28 PM

check out my threads i have 19 x 8.5 front and 19 x 9.5 rear et of 45 all around I've rolled.

blumango · 10-02-2010, 03:00 AM

Hi I need some advise.

I drive a 130i coupe. I have 18" X 8" (Offset 34) OZ Ultraleggera all round. I am using Yokohama S Drives 225/40 all round but I am hoping to get the rears to come out more so its more flushed (the fronts are flushed 100%). If I am to go with 5mm spacers will it rub? Should I just go with a 245/40 tires? If so, how much more will the tires stick out in terms of mm?

Please advise,
Thanks & Regards

aerobod · 10-02-2010, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blumango

Hi I need some advise.

I drive a 130i coupe. I have 18" X 8" (Offset 34) OZ Ultraleggera all round. I am using Yokohama S Drives 225/40 all round but I am hoping to get the rears to come out more so its more flushed (the fronts are flushed 100%). If I am to go with 5mm spacers will it rub? Should I just go with a 245/40 tires? If so, how much more will the tires stick out in terms of mm?

Please advise,
Thanks & Regards

On the same rim, 245/40 tyres will stick out 10mm more laterally and 8mm vertically compared with a 225/40 tyre, assuming the same model of tyre (profile of the tyre varies from manufacturer to manufacturer and model to model). 245/35 will stick out 10mm more laterally and 4mm less vertically.

blumango · 10-03-2010, 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aerobod

On the same rim, 245/40 tyres will stick out 10mm more laterally and 8mm vertically compared with a 225/40 tyre, assuming the same model of tyre (profile of the tyre varies from manufacturer to manufacturer and model to model). 245/35 will stick out 10mm more laterally and 4mm less vertically.

Hi, thanks so much for replying. My tires are currently Yokohama S Drives. Do you think it will look weird using 245/40 on the rears and 225/40 on fronts with square wheel setup? What I mean is will the tires on the rear look like there is more rubber wrapping over the wheel rims as compared to the front? I don't know if 245/35 is available for the S Drives, will check...

onefastman · 10-04-2010, 11:30 AM

Why wouldnt you go with a 245/35? The 40 is mich taller.

Also if you get a tire like the ps2's that have a curved side wall it will fit better.

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marvenmassey Private First Class 12 Rep 180 Posts Drives: '2011 AW CR DCT 135 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Oakville iTrader: (0)	Fender Rolling?? Hi guys, I want to lower my 1er and get sime 19" RIMS. From everything I've read here I am sure I will need to roll my fenders. I've seen a few posting on this however I am not completely sure what it entails. Is it from the inside? Is there potential to damage the body? Can someone explain in a bit of detail which is needed? Will I need a professional etc? Any explaination I get from here may impact my decision on the RIMS and lowering. thx! M.
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fboutlaw Cone Cruncher 31 Rep 534 Posts Drives: Dinan 135i Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Cupertino, CA iTrader: (3)	FYI. Fender rolling isn't a big deal. A shop can do it in an afternoon. I had it done when i bought some 18" rims with a high offset. My advice; get the rims first. If the tires rub, get an alignment and ask for some negative camber on the offending wheels. If they still rub, roll the fenders. Will probably run you $50-100 per wheel.
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texasmojo Second Lieutenant 13 Rep 223 Posts Drives: 2008 128i automatic Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: DFW Texas, USA iTrader: (0)	I just put miro mo1 19x8.5 35 mm offset with 225/35/19 all around. Everybody will say this is too aggressive but they look great. The rear is flush and didn't need rolling. The front wheels stick out about 1/4 inch. I only rolled the front and made the fender flare out a bit and now they look flush. A wider tire would've definatly rubbed all around. Tires are barely even stretched. Looks great. I know if I drop it it will rub but I don't plan to. I can stick 1 finger between tire and fender. Last night we were 3 adults and no rub. I'm in it for the looks not racing.
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09-21-2010, 10:25 AM	#14
romak47 Captain 53 Rep 941 Posts Drives: like a bat out of hell Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	would i rub with a 235x35x19 tire on 8.5x19 ET45mm rim and a 1 inch drop in front?? Or should i got with same size tire as texasmojo (225x35x19 on 8.5x19) and look somewhat stretched ?? __________________ JB4, DCI, Digi boost, CSL eyelids, 5% tint, KW v2's. Bastuck 85mm quad w/ berk resonated mids, LED int ltg, Perf SSK, CF int trim, 19" SF-71 rims, CDV mod, BMS OCC, ER+tial charge pipe. AR DP's, Helix IC,meth, drilled slotted rotors
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1013mm aka 1013MM 1246 Rep 9,545 Posts Drives: pokingly flush Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Los Angeles / HK iTrader: (7) Garage List 2009 135i [8.26]	check out my threads i have 19 x 8.5 front and 19 x 9.5 rear et of 45 all around I've rolled. __________________ -John Project YOSHI Sale Thread
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blumango Enlisted Member 3 Rep 37 Posts Drives: BMW 130i Coupe Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	Hi I need some advise. I drive a 130i coupe. I have 18" X 8" (Offset 34) OZ Ultraleggera all round. I am using Yokohama S Drives 225/40 all round but I am hoping to get the rears to come out more so its more flushed (the fronts are flushed 100%). If I am to go with 5mm spacers will it rub? Should I just go with a 245/40 tires? If so, how much more will the tires stick out in terms of mm? Please advise, Thanks & Regards
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onefastman Major General 159 Rep 5,689 Posts Drives: 2009 135i 2011 e92m dct Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Earth iTrader: (15)	Why wouldnt you go with a 245/35? The 40 is mich taller. Also if you get a tire like the ps2's that have a curved side wall it will fit better. __________________ Legal Disclaimer: Anything I or anyone else says about my vehicle on this website(1addicts.com or any affiliated or nonaffiliated sites), pertaining to modifications, is only to gain acceptance from my/our peers, and does not actually represent anything actually existing on my car, and thus, cannot be held against me in any issues, i.e. warranty claims, that may arise.
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