Best Plug and Play?

[ModBargainsTech]

Originally Posted by thez99

Even without a tune I can get into my car, floor it and smile big time. Dont try n sell a very NON pnp tune in a PNP thread. The COBB AP is a truly pnp tune, the JB's you need loads of time and instructions dicking around all inside the engine and the ecu compartment, all of which does NOT make me smile.

I wasn't trying to sell anything, but only suggested that he look into the JB4 because he was asking for any kind of insight/information for a plug & play chip for his vehicle.

The JB4 is still very much a PLUG N PLAY unit - it's just "plugged" in the ECU compartment vs. OBD II port. I would have to disagree with you that it takes "loads of time and instructions/dicking around all inside engine". Did you perhaps get the pinout version? The installation of the plug and play version doesn't take more than 30 minutes even by a novice installer. I'm pretty sure there are JB3/4 owners on this forum who can chime in and agree to this.

-Frank

[thez99]

Fact is is the JB pieces are NOT pnp, plug n play is exactly what the COBB units are, you plug in and boom. The JB pieces no matter how easy you say it is, is really NOT that easy and you still have to take apart half the shit in the engine compartment to get to it, then pull apart you're whole ecu. Even with instructions, that is NOT something I wanna do. Others may not have a problem with doing so but I chose the path of least resistance when It comes to tuning a complex engine setup. If you are off your warranty and dont mind spending time rippin ur engine apart for a tune, then by all means, otherwise a flash is what a guy like me is into.

[ESC OFF]

Just installed the COBB Stage 1 93 Octane map, 20 minute install, very good results, it's probably not for everybody but as a Plug and Play I would highly recommend it.

[N55_BBM]

Originally Posted by ESC OFF

Just installed the COBB Stage 1 93 Octane map, 20 minute install, very good results, it's probably not for everybody but as a Plug and Play I would highly recommend it.

do you say that because of the steep price?

[ESC OFF]

Originally Posted by N55_BBM

do you say that because of the steep price?

Not at all, I looked into GIAC which would have ended up being more $$, there was no way I was going to use a piggy back but some people prefer that route. I look at the AP like any other mod, some people will love it, some will prefer another option. To me the $$ was less important than the simplicity of install (and removal). I was also familiar with COBB from my Subie days, I never had an issue in the past and that helped my make my decision.