Debadging story

dorkdog · 05-31-2013, 06:48 PM

OK, so I am behind a dumptruck on the interstate (83 North of Baltimore), going up a hill just after the 55 reduction and I am doing 50 - he's getting slower and slower and dropping more and more stones on the road - I venture into the left lane to pass, and do it with haste (75MPH) so I don't get more chips than I already have - a cop is there - I'm pulled over, he takes my license - nice guy.

Comes back after an eternity and says,

"I can't see any model number on your car so I had to make one up". So I have a Model 1800 BMW... at least that's what the ticket said LOL

Not sure what to make of this - he did not ask for registration or proof of insurance (although I had them in my hand when he arrived at the window) and he did not ask me 'why' I was speeding (not that he has to, but most have). It was a PA State trooper.

What do you think?

Kdiddy007 · 05-31-2013, 06:50 PM

F*** the POLICE COMING STRAIGHT OUTTA COMPTON!

ShocknAwe · 05-31-2013, 07:11 PM

Pretty funny. Go to court, ticket should be thrown out as the vehicle is listed incorrectly.

jkoral · 05-31-2013, 07:42 PM

You got a ticket for 75? Sorry to hear that. I didn't think anyone ticketed under 80 (which is basically my default speed on highways regardless if it's 55/65).

I'm overdue for a ticket, but speeding tickets are sharply down in Mass, which is good news. http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas...massachusetts/)

dorkdog · 05-31-2013, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ShocknAwe

Pretty funny. Go to court, ticket should be thrown out as the vehicle is listed incorrectly.

I don't know if I can do that; I was speeding. I don't think I could show my face in court with that as a defense.

ShocknAwe · 05-31-2013, 08:10 PM

Up to you man! I'd get it thrown out. You don't need that on your record unless you really don't give a shit.

Bimmer B · 05-31-2013, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dorkdog

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Originally Posted by ShocknAwe

Pretty funny. Go to court, ticket should be thrown out as the vehicle is listed incorrectly.

I don't know if I can do that; I was speeding. I don't think I could show my face in court with that as a defense.

The cop left you an out! By the cop not including proper vehicle ID, AND not asking insurance or reg he wont even show up in court. Tickets are tossed out for a hell of a lot less than that. Your not fighting the speeding it's the details on the ticket.
Be surprised if you had to pay.

box_man · 05-31-2013, 08:25 PM

1800

Ammonia · 05-31-2013, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dorkdog

I don't know if I can do that; I was speeding. I don't think I could show my face in court with that as a defense.

Sounds like you want to pay the ticket.

Seriously, the ticket will be thrown out.

tuco44 · 05-31-2013, 08:53 PM

Funny thing is there used to be an 1800 model BMW, a long time ago.

PA135i · 05-31-2013, 08:58 PM

Yeah, just tell the traffic court judge you don't own a BMW 1800. Must have been another car. LOL

tuco44 · 05-31-2013, 09:23 PM

Here you go, what you were driving:

http://www.classiccars-forsale.com/bmw-1800-1968/

JTB · 05-31-2013, 09:49 PM

As long as the manufacturer and color are correct, the ticket will hold up in court. I previously received a ticket in my silver Mitsubishi Evo, the officer put my car down as a silver Subaru - ticket still stuck

.

If, however, the officer did not sign the ticket, you are in with a good chance.

Good luck,

bmw1racer · 05-31-2013, 10:36 PM

Whatever you decide to do, best of luck.

FIRST1 · 05-31-2013, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tuco44

Here you go, what you were driving:

http://www.classiccars-forsale.com/bmw-1800-1968/

Agree that you were driving this "1800 BMW" car. Apparently it only has 90 base horsepower. Argue that there's no way you could have made it to 75 mph

1addyfan · 05-31-2013, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dorkdog

So I have a Model 1800 BMW... at least that's what the ticket said

Well at least the got the "1" and the "8" correct... Gotta give him credit for that.

1addyfan · 05-31-2013, 10:52 PM

Oh, and no... Incorrect "Model Number" on a debadged vehicle will not automatically void a traffic ticket... otherwise, we'd all be debadging our vehicles in hopes of confusing an officer of the law. lol But let's not be silly now. If the cop shows up, the ticket will likely stand... but if you're really concerned about the model number, I guess you can have the ticket amended by the officer to show the correct info.

I'd certainly like to see the judge's reaction to that defense though...

the1andonly · 06-01-2013, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dorkdog

OK, so I am behind a dumptruck on the interstate (83 North of Baltimore), going up a hill just after the 55 reduction and I am doing 50 - he's getting slower and slower and dropping more and more stones on the road - I venture into the left lane to pass, and do it with haste (75MPH) so I don't get more chips than I already have - a cop is there - I'm pulled over, he takes my license - nice guy.

Comes back after an eternity and says,

"I can't see any model number on your car so I had to make one up". So I have a Model 1800 BMW... at least that's what the ticket said LOL

Not sure what to make of this - he did not ask for registration or proof of insurance (although I had them in my hand when he arrived at the window) and he did not ask me 'why' I was speeding (not that he has to, but most have). It was a PA State trooper.

What do you think?

What I don't understand is why didn't you try explaining to the cop that the truck was spraying rocks everywhere and because you didn't want a cracked windshield (safety concern) you made a quick pass. its up to the truck driver to secure their payload, that was a driving hazard you were trying to avoid...thats a perfectly reasonable excuse...

Dafttt · 06-01-2013, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by the1andonly

What I don't understand is why didn't you try explaining to the cop that the truck was spraying rocks everywhere and because you didn't want a cracked windshield (safety concern) you made a quick pass. its up to the truck driver to secure their payload, that was a driving hazard you were trying to avoid...thats a perfectly reasonable excuse...

With all due respect, another perfectly reasonable excuse would be to slow down and create more space between you and the truck.

Not that I'd do that, I'd pass him in a heartbeat (or 2 or 3, cause I drive a '28i).

...Just sayin'

BLU135i · 06-01-2013, 04:53 AM

That's because you live in MASS where people think traffic laws are just sugestions. I can't tell you how many times i have been passed as I do my typical 10 over the limit. and by passed i mean like i was going backwards. Or almost t-boned because the idiot across the intersection from me floors it and does an imediate left turn in front of me at the first hint of the color green. Do you people know what the phrase "right of way" means...dont even get me started on round abouts (traffic circles). Ok i am done. moved out from WA last year and am thinking of becoming a cop just so i can have the higest ticket count EVER!!.

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Originally Posted by jkoral

You got a ticket for 75? Sorry to hear that. I didn't think anyone ticketed under 80 (which is basically my default speed on highways regardless if it's 55/65).

I'm overdue for a ticket, but speeding tickets are sharply down in Mass, which is good news. http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas...massachusetts/)

zoomnad · 06-01-2013, 05:26 AM

My first speed equipment on any car I drive is my Escort 8500! Don't leave home without it. I even have it on my motorcycle and it beeps in my helmet! Hell, the way I drive I would loose my license if I didn't have it! In Ohio, all the cops do are write tickets so beware if you are on our state! BTW, nice to see you still drive a classic BMW 1800 daily!

dorkdog · 06-01-2013, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by the1andonly

What I don't understand is why didn't you try explaining to the cop that the truck was spraying rocks everywhere and because you didn't want a cracked windshield (safety concern) you made a quick pass. its up to the truck driver to secure their payload, that was a driving hazard you were trying to avoid...thats a perfectly reasonable excuse...

I did... his response was "I gotta pick somebody and you were at the head of the pack"

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dorkdog Big Mouth No Filter 49 Rep 586 Posts Drives: 128i Montego Blue 6MT Sport Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Puyallup WA iTrader: (0)	Debadging story OK, so I am behind a dumptruck on the interstate (83 North of Baltimore), going up a hill just after the 55 reduction and I am doing 50 - he's getting slower and slower and dropping more and more stones on the road - I venture into the left lane to pass, and do it with haste (75MPH) so I don't get more chips than I already have - a cop is there - I'm pulled over, he takes my license - nice guy. Comes back after an eternity and says, "I can't see any model number on your car so I had to make one up". So I have a Model 1800 BMW... at least that's what the ticket said LOL Not sure what to make of this - he did not ask for registration or proof of insurance (although I had them in my hand when he arrived at the window) and he did not ask me 'why' I was speeding (not that he has to, but most have). It was a PA State trooper. What do you think? __________________ We do not inherit the Earth from our parents; we borrow it from our children
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ShocknAwe 1Addict 3234 Rep 7,894 Posts Drives: E82 Mutt, M57 Truck Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Charleston iTrader: (22)	Pretty funny. Go to court, ticket should be thrown out as the vehicle is listed incorrectly. __________________ 2010 135i 6MT Jet Black N54/3 FE82 Mutt \| BUILD THREAD \| GARAGE SALE
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jkoral Lieutenant Colonel 1025 Rep 1,968 Posts Drives: 2017 M2 LBB 6MT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: MA iTrader: (7)	You got a ticket for 75? Sorry to hear that. I didn't think anyone ticketed under 80 (which is basically my default speed on highways regardless if it's 55/65). I'm overdue for a ticket, but speeding tickets are sharply down in Mass, which is good news. http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas...massachusetts/)
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tuco44 Colonel 644 Rep 2,294 Posts Drives: 2018 340i xDrive M Perf Edtn Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Western Canada iTrader: (0)	Funny thing is there used to be an 1800 model BMW, a long time ago. __________________ 2018 340i xDrive M Perf Edtn Sunset Orange Previous BMWs - 19 others since 1971.
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tuco44 Colonel 644 Rep 2,294 Posts Drives: 2018 340i xDrive M Perf Edtn Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Western Canada iTrader: (0)	Here you go, what you were driving: http://www.classiccars-forsale.com/bmw-1800-1968/ __________________ 2018 340i xDrive M Perf Edtn Sunset Orange Previous BMWs - 19 others since 1971.
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1addyfan Private First Class 9 Rep 171 Posts Drives: '09 135i Vert ///M-Sport 6 M-T Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Cali iTrader: (2)	Oh, and no... Incorrect "Model Number" on a debadged vehicle will not automatically void a traffic ticket... otherwise, we'd all be debadging our vehicles in hopes of confusing an officer of the law. lol But let's not be silly now. If the cop shows up, the ticket will likely stand... but if you're really concerned about the model number, I guess you can have the ticket amended by the officer to show the correct info. I'd certainly like to see the judge's reaction to that defense though... Last edited by 1addyfan; 05-31-2013 at 11:01 PM..
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zoomnad Private First Class 11 Rep 125 Posts Drives: 2008 BMW Z4si "M" suspension Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Fairfield,Oh iTrader: (0)	My first speed equipment on any car I drive is my Escort 8500! Don't leave home without it. I even have it on my motorcycle and it beeps in my helmet! Hell, the way I drive I would loose my license if I didn't have it! In Ohio, all the cops do are write tickets so beware if you are on our state! BTW, nice to see you still drive a classic BMW 1800 daily!
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