VARGAS STAGE 2 + PTF E-Tune

[BMW86]

Any updates?

[Tab135]

Yeah they are going on my car

[SGJB135i]

Great review , I think it's time to invest! I just need the right place to do the swap!

[MuNkY6913]

FBO with 93 pump gas map 5 JB4 gave me 383whp and 427wtq. At the strip with codes from bad o2 sensor and street tires I hit 12.5 at around 114mph. For he amount of money spent it better give a lot more than 300whp IMO.

[Curare86]

Originally Posted by KD135

Yeah they are going on my car

thought you'd ordered a set from Tony already? Passing that one on?

[uwood]

Originally Posted by MuNkY6913

FBO with 93 pump gas map 5 JB4 gave me 383whp and 427wtq. At the strip with codes from bad o2 sensor and street tires I hit 12.5 at around 114mph. For he amount of money spent it better give a lot more than 300whp IMO.

I was thinking the same thing. I was over 380 with just a DCI and a JB4 on a Steptronic.

[flinchy]

Originally Posted by 1SER135

At this stage its 305rwhp and 370ft lb of torque, peak power around 6000 and peak torque at 3200rpm (OH YEH!) and then drops at a rate of 30ftlb per 1000RPM which is amazing.

The HP number may not seem insane but considering that its peaking at 18PSI its actually really good. Me and Jake are going go another few revisions again as he isn't completely happy with where its at and beleives he can still push it further.

For the guys in the US this dyno I was on is very "honest" dyno. To give you a good idea, the same datalogs went into "Virtual Dyno" which gave me 475hp and from what ive seen "Virtual Dyno" gives very close numbers to Dynojet numbers.

I will put a Dyno chart up once I get on the dyno again


On a side not, when we compared my Pre-Vargas Chart to the current setup, I gained about 30rwhp peak power but about 50-60rwhp through out the mid range, not to mention that it pushed my peak power up about 1000rpm

+1 dyno sounds broken (or some other maaaaajor tuning related issue), should be shooting for 500whp minimum, not 300... (given 550whp on a dynojet, 500whp should be realistic for us aussies who MOSTLY don't have access to one lol)

306whp no bolt on's cobb tune only recently over here on a dyno dynamics :/

[Nugget]

It is not a dynojet so not comparable to most of the figures posted by US people.
Use it as a tuning tool and compare before and after.
Like I said I went from 230hp stock to 300hp FBO, which sounds massively low, but traps speeds were about the same as everyone else saying they have 370whp.

[Dan_335]

I must say the numbers quoted in this thread are doing Vargas stage2 turbo's no good...

I would expect an absolute minimum of 420rwhp on 98ron fuel for this to be even remotely worth while... you can get 380rwhp out of stock turbo's FBO on pump fuel...

[edisapimp]

Thread from the dead.

[Freon]

Originally Posted by Dan_335

I must say the numbers quoted in this thread are doing Vargas stage2 turbo's no good...

I would expect an absolute minimum of 420rwhp on 98ron fuel for this to be even remotely worth while... you can get 380rwhp out of stock turbo's FBO on pump fuel...

A turbo upgrade probably won't be your first choice for tuning from a stock car unless your turbos are wearing out or failing. You wouldn't want to do this until you already had all the bolt-on upgrades.

The first 60-100whp are really cheap with tune, exhaust, FMIC upgrade, possibly meth/E85, etc. After that, it gets pricey. Physics is a bitch.

Also, I think you're placing way too much faith on comparing different dynos, different cars, different calibration on the dynos, etc. Unless it is on the same day, same dyno, same car, you shouldn't be comparing two different replacement parts (i.e. turbos) with such vigor.