1M's available

[pavo335]

Chaps this isn't a bashing thread relax, the thread was started on cars available and I assumed a bit of a laugh at the prices on car sales for second hand cars.

[Zuzu]

Originally Posted by pavo335

I should add I don't qualify for Apia :

Makes no difference young fella.. It means jack shit on the track as you know..

Ha...just realised that i dont qualify either.. I am over 50, BUT not semi retired....YET

[pavo335]

Originally Posted by Zuzu

Makes no difference young fella.. It means jack shit on the track as you know..

Ha...just realised that i dont qualify either.. I am over 50, BUT not semi retired....YET

Joe joe joe. So does that mean I get a hot lap? Or not!

[BBK]

Originally Posted by Ian///M

Yes, you are very important

Simple fact is you haven't driven both... So your opinion means jack-shit

[woosh]

[BIZ-AU]

Guys, take a chill pill.

I take no offense from Richards comments.

Where the Modded 135's quicker than me on the track day? Yes, so who cares I don't.

Can you take a comparison from it? Not really.

I'm not out there to push 10/10ths, I'm out there to enjoy my car for what it is, and to drive home in one piece.

The only way you can really compare is with the same driver pushing just as hard in both cars on the same day.

Everyone has there own opinion and are entitled to it, take what you want from it, but don't get offended by it.

[sparoz]

8 cars on Carsales. Someone still wanted their 140000. I should list it at 250000 - just for fun. .

[Waldo23]

Originally Posted by TimMc

I see from Natsoft that Beric Lynton's 1M race car was doing 1.24s & the Sherrin Motorsport 135 was doing 1.22s yesterday at QR. I'm doing 1'27"s with my modded 135 road car. I would have qualified mid field!
Too many variables here for this to tell us much though. Beric's 1M will undoubtably get quicker as they tune the engine & suspension.
http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/re...08/2012.QR1.P2

We were roading tyres for the races in that session.

We set the lap record last night 1.20.6, see natsoft. Still more handling improvements to be made and time gained.

The 135i was apparently running 1bar. A well prepared 135i shouldn't be much slower than a 1M. It has bigger brakes as well in our category.

[gazz]

Beric mate, you should start a separate thread for your car on the Aussie forum. There is a fair amount of interest here and you can keep all the info re your race car on the one thread.

[Alpine*]

Originally Posted by gazz

Beric mate, you should start a separate thread for your car on the Aussie forum. There is a fair amount of interest here and you can keep all the info re your race car on the one thread.

Yeh, what he said Beric!

[pavo335]

Originally Posted by Waldo23

We were roading tyres for the races in that session.

We set the lap record last night 1.20.6, see natsoft. Still more handling improvements to be made and time gained.

The 135i was apparently running 1bar. A well prepared 135i shouldn't be much slower than a 1M. It has bigger brakes as well in our category.

no offense but you might want to check the lap times in the warm up race.

interesting site, there are some fast cars out there!

[Alpine*]

Originally Posted by pavo335

no offense but you might want to check the lap times in the warm up race.

interesting site, there are some fast cars out there!

I'd be guessing, but warm ups don't count as far as lap records go, only official practice and race

Here is what Beric referred to from Race 2, noting the "R" against the time and the legend at the bottom of page.

[Waldo23]

Originally Posted by pavo335

no offense but you might want to check the lap times in the warm up race.

interesting site, there are some fast cars out there!

No offense taken. Lap Records must be set in the race. V8's have practice lap records but them only.

Being a warm up session you can make any change you want, you're not checked. The Evo's are a quick car and that is why they are car of choice for this championship. Evo's owners will admit they destroy tyres if they drive at that pace for any length of time.

It surprised many people in pitlane that we could do the whole race on medium compound tyres, they were all on hard and I believe some changed left side tyres in the CPS.

At the end of the day we've built a car to try and stop the Evo domination and I believe over time the 1M will beat them, maybe not every time at every circuit but it'll be fun trying. Many other competitors and spectators came over and said they were glad to see another entry that could potentially beat the Evo's, better for the category.

[pavo335]

Originally Posted by Waldo23

No offense taken. Lap Records must be set in the race. V8's have practice lap records but them only.

Being a warm up session you can make any change you want, you're not checked. The Evo's are a quick car and that is why they are car of choice for this championship. Evo's owners will admit they destroy tyres if they drive at that pace for any length of time.

It surprised many people in pitlane that we could do the whole race on medium compound tyres, they were all on hard and I believe some changed left side tyres in the CPS.

At the end of the day we've built a car to try and stop the Evo domination and I believe over time the 1M will beat them, maybe not every time at every circuit but it'll be fun trying. Many other competitors and spectators came over and said they were glad to see another entry that could potentially beat the Evo's, better for the category.

It certainly looks like there were some very fast cars there!

[Waldo23]

Originally Posted by pavo335

It certainly looks like there were some very fast cars there!

Plenty and well prepared too. The VIP Petfoods Evo went home with one or two blown engines but they'll be back and very competitive.

Holt has been an Evo owner for close to 10 years so they know what they are doing, plus it's an ex Team Mitsubishi Ralliart car, as is the Thomas car. Both recently purchased them from TMR. Then you've got the TMR car itself still prepared by Alan Heaphy.

Check out the Super Karts and Sports Sedan times, lapping equal too or quicker than V8's.

[Zuzu]

Ha..Go the echo..

Toyota Echo...1.5Ltr......1.32.0392

BMW 335i.......3.0Ltr......1.32.6137

[OOOSQ]

Originally Posted by Zuzu

Ha..Go the echo..

Toyota Echo...1.5Ltr......1.32.0392

BMW 335i.......3.0Ltr......1.32.6137

HAVEN DRIVEN BOTH I AM CLAIMING THE ECHO TO BE A BETTER ALL ROUND CAR

[Liub]

Originally Posted by OOOSQ

HAVEN DRIVEN BOTH I AM CLAIMING THE ECHO TO BE A BETTER ALL ROUND CAR

A++ will read again!

[TimMc]

Originally Posted by TimMc

QR National circuit of course Vinney. It would be pretty slow at any other QR track. Yeah 1M is limited to 14psi I think, but they've tuned so that that psi is available at all revs. They're using an Evolve tune. 135 is tuned by BPS now and also is restricted to x??? psi. 135 must use standard bushes & control arms too and runs in a different class (B) to the 1M (A).

The Sherrin 135 is running the BMW performance kit so can run extra boost up to that level.

Originally Posted by Ian///M

Like I said, drop $15-20k on a 135i and it will be on par with a 1M on a track for sure. I am sure Tim's or Vinny's cars would be faster.. I got tired after $9k though

I haven't spent $9K yet Ian. Biggest money was on my diff but I got that for a good price.

Originally Posted by Waldo23

We were roading tyres for the races in that session.

We set the lap record last night 1.20.6, see natsoft. Still more handling improvements to be made and time gained.

The 135i was apparently running 1bar. A well prepared 135i shouldn't be much slower than a 1M. It has bigger brakes as well in our category.

Awesome Beric. Wish I'd been there to see it!
The Sherrin 135 is running rebuilt standard 135 brake calipers with BMW performance discs. They go through these discs & calipers pretty often. Standard 1M (M3) discs are larger in diameter & width if this is what you're running.

Originally Posted by gazz

Beric mate, you should start a separate thread for your car on the Aussie forum. There is a fair amount of interest here and you can keep all the info re your race car on the one thread.

Agree!! I think there's already a thread open here somewhere isn't there?