335i info from a seemingly reliable source..

carl_d · 09-08-2005, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CC 330i

I guess I understand all the economics of the decision to go with turbocharging, but I guess all of us BMW drivers will have to accept that turbos are OK after all. I'm all for it if its a drivable, reliable engine. I wish they would get started with direct injection like Audi is doing with the FSI in the RS4. Audi took the 4.2 liter engine in the S4 from 340 normally aspirated horsepower to 425 horsepower (normally aspirated) mainly by utilizing FSI and a few other engine improvements. That's more of a jump than the 335i will be from the 330i.

The 335i engines will be DI'ed

CC 330i · 09-09-2005, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by carl_d

The 335i engines will be DI'ed

I sure wish the 330i engine was too! We could see closer to 280hp I would think.

JonnyCrash · 09-09-2005, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by stressdoc

10k more for the 335i? That would have to include a very long list of M-sport extras and the 7-speed SMG or DSP. I was thinking more along the lines of 6k over the 330i. Do we have any good comparisons to make from the E60 in euro, e.g., 535turbo diesel vs. non turbo? Maybe this would make for a fun poll...

Sorry, I'm thinking in Canadian pricing, and you're right... between the 330 and 335 it would make more sense to see 5k USD difference. But the point remains that its cheaper to turbo charge the current engine than bring in a larger displacement E46 M3-style engine.

JonnyCrash · 09-09-2005, 05:44 PM

You're exactly right on the marketing of these cars; BMW is trying to get 3-series drivers to stick with the 3 series throughout their lives, making it more expensive and larger along the way to accomodate their aging process. At the same time, they are hoping the identity will still bring in new drivers, and that those drivers who want even more will go to the 5 or 7 series. Meanwhile, BMW gets ready to bring out the 1 series to attract the crowd that are new to BMW and haven't yet been lusting after a 3 series for years.

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Originally Posted by Armen52

I just don't understand where the markets for these cars are. The 3 series is reaching into 5 series, Infiniti M, and Lexus GS territory with a $50K+ 335i. Is this really going to be a wise buying decision? Where is the value? How come Lexus gets away with the same or similar power at $10K less than BMW? That's a huge divide, probably more than I could tolerate. My 330i was already pushing the threshold of how much I think a car like it should cost.

*shrug* I guess time will tell. I'm just curious how many of you would put down $55K for a loaded 335i that will basically keep up with that IS350 in a straight line at nearly $15K less.