Game over for M4?

05C4R · 06-15-2014, 06:54 PM

i had people telling me the other day that Julia Gillard looks good with her clothes off

anyway....sorry thread jack, M3 can be saved if the new c63 handles like rubbish

John_01 · 06-15-2014, 08:00 PM

The M3 and M4 will be fine if the weight is kept down. I'm not likely to buy this car, but personally I wouldn't want a V8. Not a twin-turbo one with reverse flow heads. Being a traditionalist, I think ALL BMWs should have 6 cylinder engines and light weight design.

JM35 · 06-15-2014, 08:18 PM

Mercedes just doesnt make their cars the way they used. And I just dont like the way all the new cars look, other than the SLS AMG. I will definitely stick with BMW, their engineering beats Mercedes IMO.

PeteA · 06-15-2014, 08:20 PM

Power:Weight more important than peak HP in my eyes. As is throttle response and suspension design. Mercedes on a roll though with their engines recently and I'm actually glad BMW not caught up in a HP race. Instead focusing on mass production (and lowering cost) of composite materials.

Alext · 06-16-2014, 04:45 AM

I've had several BMW's now and currently own one that was more than twice as much as my new DD Benz C250 coupe.

Hands down the Benz wins in interior quality - leather, plastics, solidity, NVH.

And it handles dam well too.

I have no doubt that the new C63 will be excellent in every regard. Already the interior is shaping up to be something special in this price range.

The new M3/M4 does not excite me. I wish it did but it just doesn't have that something. Perhaps it's due to it's engine. I don't even feel like test driving one.

AMG on the other hand does excite - I can't wait for the Black Series version of the coupe. I never owned a Benz before mainly because I was unsure on Benz quality (performance and build) having never owned one before and the fact that I have stayed true to BMW.....however this time, after ownership of both Benz and BMW side by side, my mind has been changed! Never thought I would say it but I reckon Benz make the superior performance saloon and coupe. Just wished they'd give me as good service as BMW does!!!!

The new AMG V8 engine is going to be amazing both aurally and performance-wise. The new M3/M4 sounds good but is nothing compared to the 6.2L AMG V8's. You don't even need to upgrade the exhaust on them. I'd imagine the 4.0L will sound superior still and have the performance and flexibility to match.

The only thing I DONT like about the new C63 (and current for that matter) is the lack of flared rear guards. BMW have done this bit right.

BTW: I really wanted BMW to make another version of the S65 or a high-revving flat 6 for the new M3/M4....

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05C4R Major 62 Rep 1,147 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: sydney iTrader: (0)	i had people telling me the other day that Julia Gillard looks good with her clothes off anyway....sorry thread jack, M3 can be saved if the new c63 handles like rubbish
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John_01 Colonel 232 Rep 2,643 Posts Drives: E90 325i, E82 135i Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	The M3 and M4 will be fine if the weight is kept down. I'm not likely to buy this car, but personally I wouldn't want a V8. Not a twin-turbo one with reverse flow heads. Being a traditionalist, I think ALL BMWs should have 6 cylinder engines and light weight design.
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PeteA Major 127 Rep 1,054 Posts Drives: E30, E82 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Melbourne iTrader: (3)	Power:Weight more important than peak HP in my eyes. As is throttle response and suspension design. Mercedes on a roll though with their engines recently and I'm actually glad BMW not caught up in a HP race. Instead focusing on mass production (and lowering cost) of composite materials. __________________ Pete's Build Thread
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Alext Banned 138 Rep 2,042 Posts Drives: B M W Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Everest iTrader: (2)	I've had several BMW's now and currently own one that was more than twice as much as my new DD Benz C250 coupe. Hands down the Benz wins in interior quality - leather, plastics, solidity, NVH. And it handles dam well too. I have no doubt that the new C63 will be excellent in every regard. Already the interior is shaping up to be something special in this price range. The new M3/M4 does not excite me. I wish it did but it just doesn't have that something. Perhaps it's due to it's engine. I don't even feel like test driving one. AMG on the other hand does excite - I can't wait for the Black Series version of the coupe. I never owned a Benz before mainly because I was unsure on Benz quality (performance and build) having never owned one before and the fact that I have stayed true to BMW.....however this time, after ownership of both Benz and BMW side by side, my mind has been changed! Never thought I would say it but I reckon Benz make the superior performance saloon and coupe. Just wished they'd give me as good service as BMW does!!!! The new AMG V8 engine is going to be amazing both aurally and performance-wise. The new M3/M4 sounds good but is nothing compared to the 6.2L AMG V8's. You don't even need to upgrade the exhaust on them. I'd imagine the 4.0L will sound superior still and have the performance and flexibility to match. The only thing I DONT like about the new C63 (and current for that matter) is the lack of flared rear guards. BMW have done this bit right. BTW: I really wanted BMW to make another version of the S65 or a high-revving flat 6 for the new M3/M4....
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