older guys please convince me otherwise

[130iguy]

so i've always liked older 911's and ever since seeing this video about a week ago i have become infatuated with them

so the last few days i have been seriously considering selling my 1er, wiping the small amount i have owing on it and putting the residue into a high interest savings account and building up a bank to buy something like this free and clear





is there anyone in here that can convince me otherwise..

keep in mind my car flow has gone 1980 mazda 323 --> 1968 holden --> 1970's Valiant Charger --> 1991 Volvo 960 --> 1968 Holden --> 2006 BMW
so the lack of creature comforts/economy isnt really bothersome to me..

as much as i love driving my 1er i cant help but miss the more visceral experience that comes from driving a pre 1975 car..

am i mental?

please note that IF i do decide to sell my 1er you guys will have a shot at it for ~7days prior to it going onto carsales not that anyone from here will take it...

[130iguy]

if i was to buy a porsche it would be a daily driver with a view to long term/lifetime project/heirloom

[Jeef Beef]

That's sick. Do it. Maybe that's cos I'm in my 20s

[bfi2906]

Go and get the Charger back - especially if it was an "E" series

[130iguy]

Originally Posted by Jeef Beef

That's sick. Do it. Maybe that's cos I'm in my 20s

i'm 23

Originally Posted by bfi2906

Go and get the Charger back - especially if it was an "E" series

nah mine was just a lowly VK? (i think) had a wicked 265 hemi & auto box but the body was swiss cheese, i flipped it in under a month for $1K profit, kinda regret that but it was going to be a very expensive resto, EVERY single panel needed attention including the floor pan i saw it on ebay a couple of years ago, lost track of it now.. probably been parted out, thats all it was good for

[BMW86]

I would think you'd need deep pockets to buy an old-skool porsche. Unfortunately I have no knowledge but good luck!

[Stuart@BMRAutowerkes]

I was considering buying a 996 for a little while... I'd still like to own a Porsche one day

[05C4R]

thats a nice porsche, and i would have one too for a weekend car, but not a daily driver, this fantasy will take you from something relaible and safe to something unreliable and basically a steel coffin in an accident, also it will be sooooo slow compared to a 130i

and nothing for less then 100k is going to go and perform like the rally car in the vid

i'm 37, old enough?

[Dackelone]

Old Porsche's don't make for good dailey drivers.

I really like all 911's but... I would not get one as my main car. Mainly bc the maintenece is quite high. Each 911 model type has its own set of problems. For the early ones like you are looking at the divalar cylinder head studs tend to snp or break. Requiring a top end overhaul. Also the camshft chains (and tenstioner) are a problem area.

[Scoobs]

Do it mate.... Sell ur 1er.... But sell me ur wheels first

[MrBlonde]

Sell your one series and buy an old rusty shit heap Porka. Do it.

I'm 44.

[sbce90]

Don't undertake projects like these unless you REALLY have the funds for it. Not stretching here and there to have just enough money for it. You have to be honest with yourself here about how much you are willing and able to spend on a car.

I'm aiming much lower than a 911 - I want to have a mint BMW 02 project. I've come close to buying an 02 but I simply don't have the time or enough disposable income at the moment to make my project work or to allow for any unexpected problems.

I wouldn't consider myself as old.

[Honny]

911's...They are nice cars.... Really!

If you want to pursue this idea of restoring a 911, best bang-for-buck way is to buy a used 930 with minimal rust, chassis damage and then restore from there (probably sandblasting and from scratch). There are various companies who make aero bits for 930s to look like the original RS models. The engines are deemed to be bullit proof, however with all used grandpa cars something WILL go wrong (yes even a Porsche). If you have money to spare you can source engine, suspension and tranny bits from later models ie, the 964 and 993.

So really if you have the desire and money to burn, it's not a bad choice. However if you intend to use it daily, my advice would be go with your head and not your heart because simply it's a no-brainer from a economic point of view.

[Dec540]

I'm 20 so if your 13 i'm old to you...

If i was personally going to buy an old porsche it wouldn't be as a daily. Whilst you are use to not having the creature comforts of a newer car, you are use to the reliability. My knowledge on older vehicles is limited but I think its a safe assumption that the older vehicles you have previously owned would have been relatively cheap to fix, unlike the porsche would be.

I'm not trying to be boring and say don't get your dream car but if your dream car is an older vehicle then i'd be buying it as a weekend car. At least then its not a massive issue when it breaks and you can't afford to fix it straight away. Driving it every day is only going to increase your chances of something going wrong.

[130iguy]

you've all made some excellent points and i am loving the division!!

what i failed to mention was that i still have my volvo hahaha, god damn its tempting... obviously this is all predicated on someone actually buying my car first...

as to the reliability:
if maintained regularly and properly i have seen porsche's that have over 500,000 MILES on them and are still running as sweet and strong (if not better) as the day they left ze motherland

i love tinkering and fiddling with my cars and so far i really havent had anything to do on my car, which is fantastic in one respect but also a little boring, talking to a few of my mates that are doing this and that every other week and then having nothing to talk about myself is a little strange to me...

cost of maintenance & insurance is really all that is holding me back at this stage...

i think what i'm going to do is do exactly what i did with my ute, put it up for sale at a price just above what its really worth and let someone who really wants it take it, then go back to the volvo/train for a bit while the savings and interest accumulates.

i dunno... interested to hear others thoughts/anyone who has actually own a gen1 911

[sbce90]

Originally Posted by Dec540

I'm 20 so if your 13 i'm old to you...

You're old brah.

[gazz]

Do it. It's part of the madness of life. When you are older with wife/kids/mortgage you will look back back wistfully at your Porsche days. Besides, you get cost of ownership bragging rights with anything old and exotic. A bit like sports injuries, you had to do the sport to get them. I'm 183 years old so I know what I'm gibbering about.

[JB4-335]

Nice looking car.
I would personally go for a 930 Turbo. A mate of mine had one many years back and he had it modified also. The thing use to absolutely fly.

[ianc]

I wouldn't go for a long hood 911; they are beautiful cars but relatively slow, primitive rust buckets, and the prices they're commanding are outrageous these days for what they are.

If you want an aircooled 911, look 78-83 for an SC, or 84-89 for a Carrera. 87-89 are the most desirable due to the smoother shifting G50 trans, which was a great improvement on the earlier 915. The bodies are galvanized as well, so rust is a thing of the past.

These cars don't have quite the same feel as the earlier long hoods, but some judicious lightening will improve things, and even a Carrera has mountains more feel than a 135. I took about 150 lbs out of my Carrera and it helped a lot. The 3.0 and 3.2 engines are also considerably more torquey. The 3.0 engines with K-Jet injection get about 15-18 MPG, and the 3.2's with Motronic are getting 20-25.

The engines are quite expensive, so make sure you get one that's had a documented top end, as valve guides are a weak point...



good luck,

ianc