Local 235 series reviews are coming in

[Alpine*]

This thread has become the"1M is beast, the best car ever, nothing compares" thread

My original Q:

Question, if you had $95+k to spend on a BM coupe! what would you buy or recommend? A 1M or a M235?

I ask cause a local fellow is looking at mine, drove it today, and is going to test drive a M235 and make a decision after that.

No one has mentioned the monetary comment, what will the common-as ______ 235 be worth in 12 months compared to a 1M? I'd say the 1M will be a better fin proposition in that regard.

Also noteworthy is that "my car" has BMW factory warranty, 18 months, remaining and is just a tad more powerful than a stocker 235.

[flinchy]

Originally Posted by Alpine*

This thread has become the"1M is beast, the best car ever, nothing compares" thread

My original Q:

Question, if you had $95+k to spend on a BM coupe! what would you buy or recommend? A 1M or a M235?

I ask cause a local fellow is looking at mine, drove it today, and is going to test drive a M235 and make a decision after that.

No one has mentioned the monetary comment, what will the common-as ______ 235 be worth in 12 months compared to a 1M? I'd say the 1M will be a better fin proposition in that regard.

Also noteworthy is that "my car" has BMW factory warranty, 18 months, remaining and is just a tad more powerful than a stocker 235.

Even if the 235i out performs the 1M slightly, i can't really see it losing too much value, if at all.. there's limited 1M's, they look unique, are actually rarer, they have an (imo, and others) superior engine for performance reasons (inferior fuel use, emissions, that boring stuff hah).. and they were the first in the modern turbo M's.

If you want the allegedly faster-from-factory car, brand new warranty... slightly nicer interior, whatever... etc.. go the 235. If you want the 1M, get the 1M.

I don't think, at this price point, in this market segment, the decision shouldn't be heavily weighted financially, unless somehow the choice between cars is REALLY that tight for you.

When/if the 2M comes out? who knows. still some pluses in the 1M's favour.

[timbo_3101]

Hey Steve, interesting discussion but it's not fair to beat up on certain individuals!
(Even if everything you said - now deleted - was deserved or true )

[Cakezilla]

This forum is almost as good as Boostcrusing. And that's populated by dole-bludging bogans

Haha, just kidding. Keep up the good work.

I'm with Flinchy though. In 20 years an 235 will be worth $10k and an 1M maybe be $40k+.

Personally I'd rather the M car for the rough and raw power and performance. But a lot of people prefer a tamer car with a bit of grunt for that show of force(ego) you need to have once in a blue moon.

I really don't think a forum with people of different opinions and levels of knowledge is really a great place to ask anything too serious though

[sparoz]

Originally Posted by timbo_3101

Hey Steve, interesting discussion but it's not fair to beat up on certain individuals!
(Even if everything you said - now deleted - was deserved or true )

Been here too long and getting to be like Kenny. Except I am very direct.

Honestly, my break from here did me good. Been spending time in a M forum, and much more chilled out and civilised. I guess there's no my horn is bigger than yours. We appreciate all horns.

[flinchy]

Originally Posted by Cakezilla

This forum is almost as good as Boostcrusing. And that's populated by dole-bludging bogans

Haha, just kidding. Keep up the good work.

I really don't think a forum with people of different opinions and levels of knowledge is really a great place to ask anything too serious though

LOL. Next up, gotta aim for... Hmm SAU or evoOZ? i don't think we have enough elitism, evoOZ IMO :P

agreed with the last part, we've already had 135 vs 1M, do we need a full on serious 235 vs 1M? Cars especially, aren't often logical things.

235 vs 135 would be a better comparison anyway. price notwithstanding.

Originally Posted by Ian///M

No, things will change with aftermarket development for the N55, just as they did with the N54.

Stock M235i AT will beat a tuned 1M 0-100 IMO. BMW will have been conservative with their times as they always are.

there's already larger (hybrid style) turbo upgrades for N55. Not N54 level, but you're right, definitely on it's way, given the years difference between them, ECU changes etc. Wonder if the S55 will have any cross-compatibility? even if limited.

[sparoz]

Originally Posted by Ian///M

No, things will change with aftermarket development for the N55, just as they did with the N54.

Stock M235i AT will beat a tuned 1M 0-100 IMO. BMW will have been conservative with their times as they always are.

Shows my ignorance .

[PeteA]

I think we just need to appreciate the things that we have and what others have as well. I love my N55 135i to bits and wouldn't change it...having far too much fun modifying it to be my representation of what I like in cars. I love the 1M for its flared arches, the M235i for its interior and the promise of an M2 that hopefully I will not miss as a new purchase...

I would buy a 2 over both Audi and Mercedes alternatives in the sub 100k category...but not sure if I would pass up Alpha Romeos one.

P

[flinchy]

Originally Posted by PeteA

but not sure if I would pass up Alpha Romeos one.

P

4c or ?

if 4c... mmmmmm.

[Alpine*]

I know there are some haters but....

http://www.ausmotive.com/2014/03/04/...4-audi-tt.html

[PeteA]

Originally Posted by flinchy

4c or ?

if 4c... mmmmmm.

Yes

[Cakezilla]

I think I'd just like a McLaren P1 thanks.

[BBK]

Some drivers aren't so focussed on the last 1/10th of a second they can do at the track. Some just want a car they can drive everyday, and put a smile on their face when they press that accelerator. Something they can do every day of the week. For that, braking and weight aren't as important as how much the car can push your head back.

This argument will always take place every time a new version of a car comes out. The ones who have it will make excuses for why theirs was better, the ones getting the new car will show why theirs is better.

[sparoz]

Originally Posted by Ian///M

I fail to understand your obsession with emphasis on power and acceleration. Weight and braking are far more important, but then I suppose you already know that from your vast internet research and track experience.

sparoz obsessed with power and acceleration? Where have you been the last 5 years?

[Alpine*]

Originally Posted by sparoz

sparoz obsessed with power and acceleration? Where have you been the last 5 years?

Lol, yeh, you got those cheap Brembo things with some poxy no name light weight wheels too, haven't you Steve

[BBK]

Originally Posted by sparoz

sparoz obsessed with power and acceleration? Where have you been the last 5 years?

some people just don't pay attention...

[timbo_3101]

Originally Posted by Ian///M

Weight and braking are far more important, but then I suppose you already know that from your vast internet research and track experience.

Really, bro?!
(Weight/distribution is far more important, but if Steve/MDORPHN/M3Adjuster said that your own vehicle set up was unsuitable for anything more than novice track attendance, it would be difficult to argue otherwise.)

[david.orr]

think most have got it wrong... my stock car is set up for track and road use by BMW it goes as quick as i dare push it and i do it most on wet rainy twisty roads. some of you would say silly but this is MY way of getting the most fun and scare out of it..... no mods ego nor track hubris

[Alpine*]

Originally Posted by jaffa12

think most have got it wrong... my stock car is set up for track and road use by BMW it goes as quick as i dare push it and i do it most on wet rainy twisty roads. some of you would say silly but this is MY way of getting the most fun and scare out of it..... no mods ego nor track hubris

What's a hubris Donny? Sounds like some sort of plant, or something botanical?

[david.orr]

Originally Posted by Alpine*

What's a hubris Donny? Sounds like some sort of plant, or something botanical?

haha John, something I dare not entertain in the 1M on the wet roads near back of my place

for those who cares, def less scary in the A45 but no less fun

[david.orr]

Originally Posted by Alpine*

This thread has become the"1M is beast, the best car ever, nothing compares" thread

My original Q:

Question, if you had $95+k to spend on a BM coupe! what would you buy or recommend? A 1M or a M235?

I ask cause a local fellow is looking at mine, drove it today, and is going to test drive a M235 and make a decision after that.

No one has mentioned the monetary comment, what will the common-as ______ 235 be worth in 12 months compared to a 1M? I'd say the 1M will be a better fin proposition in that regard.

Also noteworthy is that "my car" has BMW factory warranty, 18 months, remaining and is just a tad more powerful than a stocker 235.

If I have another spare $95, would buy your Black

[Alpine*]

Originally Posted by jaffa12

If I have another spare $95, would buy your Black

Me too, I love the little tough arsed looking thing!