Review: Riss Racing 135i Intake Plenum

rcracer_tx · 02-23-2009, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jeremyc74

Then you shouldn't have brought up construction materials. We have the Riss intake, which is metal, and now the Injen intake which is plastic. It's pretty obvious to me which one looks more at home under the hood, but you can continue to tote the party line if you like.

We were discussing if it would have been more beneficial for Riss Racing plenum to be made out of plastic or metal...You are entitled to your own opinion, but don't threadcrap Silverbullet135i's thread.

Caduceus · 02-23-2009, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnnyr135

When Zbladejr and I go to ICS for my Dyno I will take off my plenum and scoops and put them on his car. He has the BMS intake and we will all see what the HP increase is. In the end that is all we really care about and if my but dyno is still working we should all be impressed. I think I am going to go from 350whp to 375whp on zbladejr car I think he will add 10whp with the plenum and scoops.

You do realise that if you do a dyno run with the hood open, any observed changes are pretty much irrelevant to the real world when your talking about ram+/- cold air induction systems?

Why not do some rolling acceleration tests on the road or some quarter mile trap speed comparisons?

mynew135 · 02-23-2009, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by rcracer_tx

I think you need to stop watching conspiracy theory shows

I'm really not seeing how an INJEN intake that requires cutting to install properly on a 135i, and only uses one side of the OEM intake track is relevant to quality of the Riss Racing intake plenum

Since you seem to want to comment on something you don't know the facts on, I'll correct you. The intake and plenum fit perfect without having to modify anything. There is a bracket that is made for both the 135 and 335. It does not have to be modified for the 335 and fits perfect. It is "optional" on the 135. SHould you decide to use it, you need to take the 335 bracket and cut it at the specified crease line in order for it to fit for the 135. But, it is optional and is not required on the 135, so I did not install it.

jeremyc74 · 02-23-2009, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by rcracer_tx

You are entitled to your own opinion, but don't threadcrap Silverbullet135i's thread.

Why not? That's ALL you guys have been doing the whole time.

Red135 · 02-23-2009, 09:25 AM

On the topic of construction materials, I would have personally preferred if it was plastic, and that was what I was expecting. I metal plenum is alot heavier than it needs to be and I really don't think that it looks at home under the hood.

mynew135 · 02-23-2009, 12:51 PM

I find it interesting how the pictures first released of the plenum on the group buy, don't clearly show how "weldy" it actually looks. I thought back then when those pics were posted, that it looked like it would be a nice addition to the engine compartment, but after seeing the user pics, it now looks much cheaper...IMO.

Red135 · 02-23-2009, 12:55 PM

When I had mine in, I didn't think that it was a complement to engine compartment in any way.
My dealership said they didn't care if I have a aftermarket intake on the car, but the RR intake and plenum look so drastic, I do not think I would leave them in.

gnpower · 02-23-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tkbr0wn

Really? I thought this was for performance. If looks are important, then I think a well formed plastic piece would "look" better than a metal box with welds that look like they came from a High School shop class.

My .02

BTW, I don't own an after market intake or plenum. So no fanboi posts from me promoting one product at the expense of another.

Thought the exact same thing as soon as I opened the box. The welds are horrible. Not sure if I want this half fast job thing in my car.

coco_m3 · 02-23-2009, 03:40 PM

This thread got big real quick.

My thought to people that think the engine bay should look "pretty".
Buy a honda then you can chrome it all out, problem solved.

I bought this because it serves a purpose, its not for looks, its for performance. Yeah the welds could have been alot more precise but it wasnt, and It wasnt about to upset me, I hardly ever open my hood anyway.

rcracer_tx · 02-23-2009, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by silverbullet135i

This thread got big real quick.

My thought to people that think the engine bay should look "pretty".
Buy a honda then you can chrome it all out, problem solved.

I bought this because it serves a purpose, its not for looks, its for performance. Yeah the welds could have been alot more precise but it wasnt, and It wasnt about to upset me, I hardly ever open my hood anyway.

That's what I figure, I would rather be faster with less show than be slow and have bling under the hood...

I am assuming you have their scoops as well?

jeremyc74 · 02-23-2009, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by silverbullet135i

This thread got big real quick.

My thought to people that think the engine bay should look "pretty".
Buy a honda then you can chrome it all out, problem solved.

I bought this because it serves a purpose, its not for looks, its for performance. Yeah the welds could have been alot more precise but it wasnt, and It wasnt about to upset me, I hardly ever open my hood anyway.

I don't think looks should take precedence over performance, but there's nothing wrong with having both, especially at the prices we're paying for these parts. If a part needs to be ugly to function properly (like a big BOV or fuel regulator with large hoses sticking in random places) then I'm all for it, but that's just not the case here. It doesn't have to be "bling" to look good. I'd prefer something that looks OEM personally.

I'm not trying to offend anyone, or our vendors, but this part just doesn't look like it belongs under the hood of these cars. It's made out of sheetmetal simply because that cheaper than having one made out of plastic for low volume pieces.

If you guys are happy with the part, then more power to you, but I think you're probably in the minority.

SLO · 02-23-2009, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Red135

On the topic of construction materials, I would have personally preferred if it was plastic, and that was what I was expecting. I metal plenum is alot heavier than it needs to be and I really don't think that it looks at home under the hood.

Or CF?!?!?!?!

vividracing · 02-23-2009, 05:07 PM

Got mine on the way

If I dont like the "metal look" I will do a carbon wrap.

coco_m3 · 02-23-2009, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rcracer_tx

That's what I figure, I would rather be faster with less show than be slow and have bling under the hood...

I am assuming you have their scoops as well?

Yes sir, I have the scoops as well.

rcracer_tx · 02-23-2009, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by vividracing

Got mine on the way

If I dont like the "metal look" I will do a carbon wrap.

Make sure to take good pictures

coco_m3 · 02-23-2009, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jeremyc74

I don't think looks should take precedence over performance, but there's nothing wrong with having both, especially at the prices we're paying for these parts. If a part needs to be ugly to function properly (like a big BOV or fuel regulator with large hoses sticking in random places) then I'm all for it, but that's just not the case here. It doesn't have to be "bling" to look good. I'd prefer something that looks OEM personally.

I'm not trying to offend anyone, or our vendors, but this part just doesn't look like it belongs under the hood of these cars. It's made out of sheetmetal simply because that cheaper than having one made out of plastic for low volume pieces.

If you guys are happy with the part, then more power to you, but I think you're probably in the minority.

Ok then, you can buy the Gruppe M one.
If you want pretty, full carbon fiber.
But I hope you have deep pockets and a third job.

https://www.gruppem.co.jp/onlinestor...roducts_id=785

jeremyc74 · 02-23-2009, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by silverbullet135i

Ok then, you can buy the Gruppe M one.
If you want pretty, full carbon fiber.
But I hope you have deep pockets and a third job.

https://www.gruppem.co.jp/onlinestor...roducts_id=785

Why would I buy that when there are other options that are more inline with what you paid for the RR stuff?

coco_m3 · 02-23-2009, 05:18 PM

US Dollar amount
2097.791 for the unit
158.92 for shipping

Have fun with that.

coco_m3 · 02-23-2009, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jeremyc74

Why would I buy that when there are other options that are more inline with what you paid for the RR stuff?

So your saying I get stuff for free?

rcracer_tx · 02-23-2009, 05:30 PM

^ Just ignore jeremyc74, he's a disgrace to the community and an obvious troll in every Riss Racing thread... maybe if you ignore him he will go away...

arrutled · 02-23-2009, 05:32 PM

well this has gone awry. jeremy is saying he wants to pay riss prices but have good looks with it, I assume he meant injen. He is not saying you get stuff for free either. Ok, back on topic..............

jeremyc74 · 02-23-2009, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rcracer_tx

^ Just ignore jeremyc74, he's a disgrace to the community and an obvious troll in every Riss Racing thread... maybe if you ignore him he will go away...

You whine like a little girl every time someone challenges your opinion. It's comical. I'm a disgrace? That's coming from a paid shill!?

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Red135 La Flama Blanca 27 Rep 1,545 Posts Drives: 1-series Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Abq, NM iTrader: (1)	On the topic of construction materials, I would have personally preferred if it was plastic, and that was what I was expecting. I metal plenum is alot heavier than it needs to be and I really don't think that it looks at home under the hood.
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mynew135 assistant to the regional manager 5 Rep 242 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Virginia Beach, VA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 135i [0.00]	I find it interesting how the pictures first released of the plenum on the group buy, don't clearly show how "weldy" it actually looks. I thought back then when those pics were posted, that it looked like it would be a nice addition to the engine compartment, but after seeing the user pics, it now looks much cheaper...IMO.
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Red135 La Flama Blanca 27 Rep 1,545 Posts Drives: 1-series Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Abq, NM iTrader: (1)	When I had mine in, I didn't think that it was a complement to engine compartment in any way. My dealership said they didn't care if I have a aftermarket intake on the car, but the RR intake and plenum look so drastic, I do not think I would leave them in.
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vividracing 689 Rep 6,854 Posts Drives: E90 M3, F30 335i, F80 M3 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Arizona iTrader: (14)	Got mine on the way If I dont like the "metal look" I will do a carbon wrap.
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rcracer_tx Banned 55 Rep 2,013 Posts Drives: BSM 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Texas iTrader: (0)	^ Just ignore jeremyc74, he's a disgrace to the community and an obvious troll in every Riss Racing thread... maybe if you ignore him he will go away...
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arrutled Colonel 104 Rep 2,474 Posts Drives: Olsa Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Western Mass iTrader: (0)	well this has gone awry. jeremy is saying he wants to pay riss prices but have good looks with it, I assume he meant injen. He is not saying you get stuff for free either. Ok, back on topic.............. __________________ AW 135i w/ blackette, performance short shift kit, BMW alarm, Performance rotors, APEX ARC-8 wheels, Direzza Star Spec 235/275, Dinan stage 3 suspension, M3 wishbones/tension rods/front sway/rear subframe bushings and thats all folks!
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