Would you go to your appointment...

desmat · 10-22-2008, 04:02 PM

If you had a yellow check engine light for 3 days and now it's not there anymore ?

Maybe they could tell me what was the error code ?
Also, is it possible that there is a "safe mode" in the computer that prevents full power if the light has been on until your visit to the dealer ?

I have an appointment friday morning.

Thanks!

Breville · 10-22-2008, 06:25 PM

Yes, I would. The worst that can happen is a little wasted time.

mistermojorizin · 10-22-2008, 06:26 PM

i had that exact situation, i went to the appointment, they pulled codes but did NOTHING because the light was already off. It was just a big waste of my time and effort.

hbiscuit · 10-23-2008, 12:41 AM

nope, would skip it unless i noticed a decrease in power or fuel economy.

desmat · 10-23-2008, 08:20 AM

Is the decrease in power normally really easy to tell, like during pre-PDI ?

GPIC135I · 10-23-2008, 08:26 AM

I had the yellow engine light go on 3 times over the span of a couple of days. Everytime i would turn off the car and restart it and it would be gone. The engine would crank a couple times before starting. I made an appointement and now i have a new HPFP.

pit1 · 10-23-2008, 08:43 AM

3 days...yes bring it in. I was told they could view even the slightest misfire in the error log. That said, the same guy told me NO FAULT codes were reported after a few long cranks and yellow lights...the SAME guy refused to respond to my HPFP inquiries...the SAME guy told me my pass airbag sensor threshold was 80lbs!?!?!?!

It may be a waste of your time, but still bring it in...dealers sometimes need a paper trail in order to get BMWNA authorization to do repairs. If anything, start the paper trail of complaints.

warmtoes · 10-23-2008, 10:39 AM

I agree with the paper trail issue. It supposedly takes 5 complete on/off cycles to clear a check engine light if there is no issue anymore.

corpsman · 10-23-2008, 10:45 AM

I don't understand why you didn't take it in the 1st time it went on.

desmat · 10-23-2008, 12:54 PM

Fisrt time was sunday night. Monday morning I was at the dealer. the girl advisor told me It may be a loose gaz cap. went outside and checked. Nope... Then she said it's nothing to worry about, it's PROBABLY just some emission things... And the sooner they could give me an appointment is tomorrow morning. Is it normal that I'm not satisfied with the answer given ? :iono:
The light stayed on until wednesday night.

I guess I'll stop by...

isitspringyet · 10-23-2008, 05:14 PM

Two HPFP's later, yes take it in. If you are having long cranks with it, it will throw the code to replace the HPFP. I had no problem at all with the dealership. Newest pump is in place, 12K miles, no problems.

Mad Dragon · 10-23-2008, 06:34 PM

Take it in. A car with stored faults will fail emissions, even if the CEL is off.

I-One-Da? · 10-23-2008, 07:08 PM

Check out my thread.

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16269

Your issues sound similar but I am not sure since you did not give a whole lot of info.

I do think that my issues are worst case scenario and that my dealership is not the best around but there could be a common issue floating around with our 1ers. The more of us that come on here and report them the better we will all get served.

I have been told at first mine was the gas cap just like you. This could be false but the BMW tech told me three days later that a loose gas cap has its own fault seperate from the check engine light. I have also been through a low pressure fuel pump replacement and two coil replacements and I still have the same issues.

Good luck man:thumbup:

If you want more info on my dealings with the dealership PM me:w00t:

Brandon

corpsman · 10-23-2008, 07:14 PM

Dude, the girl advisor? Does not quite sound like a mechanic. It sounds like you are hesitant to take it in.

esses · 10-23-2008, 08:21 PM

Take it in.

desmat · 10-24-2008, 08:02 AM

Well, It's in !

Let see what they'll tell me...

I-One-Da, I can't say it's the exact same problem since your car was shaking and with a rough idle and mine is not. Bad luck seems to be with you my friend...

Thanks for your input guys!

I-One-Da? · 10-24-2008, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by desmat

Well, It's in !

Let see what they'll tell me...

I-One-Da, I can't say it's the exact same problem since your car was shaking and with a rough idle and mine is not. Bad luck seems to be with you my friend...

Thanks for your input guys!

I see.

Mine did start out like yours with just the lights though. It then progressed to limp mode and such. Lets hope your issues stop here:w00t:

desmat · 10-24-2008, 02:20 PM

OK, here are the details (if you can call it this way)

(sorry, this is translated from french so it might not be the exact terms, and trust me, even in french it's hard to understand)

CONCERN: Check engine light on for 3 days

CAUSE: Software error

CORRECTION: Verified if check engine light is on and OK Evap code done test plan and verified harness and OK Check fire & ignition B+ and groud and OK Done Done venting test and OK System no testing repeat test module verified bulletin and OK #160108 update on DME done special measure on DME and OK Road test OK Verify if code will be back 2A1A

So... they reflashed the car. And it shows !

It seems quite similar to this post
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...highlight=2a1a
except they didn't replace any parts.

The girl said they reflashed the car. So I ask "is 2A1A" the error code and she's like "Hum...yeah. Sometimes it's easier to fix the car with a reflash".

Anybobody knows what #160108 update and 2A1A error is?

Thanks again!

tkd · 04-25-2009, 11:32 PM

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mistermojorizin Lieutenant Colonel 40 Rep 1,657 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	i had that exact situation, i went to the appointment, they pulled codes but did NOTHING because the light was already off. It was just a big waste of my time and effort. __________________ "KOPEYKA" /// Titanium Silver / Black Leather / Gray Poplar / Sport Package / Premium Package / 6MT / Feb 08 Production
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hbiscuit First Lieutenant 11 Rep 319 Posts Drives: 2008 M3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Baltimore, MD iTrader: (0)	nope, would skip it unless i noticed a decrease in power or fuel economy.
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desmat First Lieutenant 37 Rep 311 Posts Drives: F31 M Sport Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Montreal iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 F31 M Sport [0.00]	Is the decrease in power normally really easy to tell, like during pre-PDI ?
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GPIC135I Private 6 Rep 67 Posts Drives: Join Date: Apr 2008 iTrader: (2)	I had the yellow engine light go on 3 times over the span of a couple of days. Everytime i would turn off the car and restart it and it would be gone. The engine would crank a couple times before starting. I made an appointement and now i have a new HPFP.
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pit1 Captain 239 Rep 790 Posts Drives: F87 M2 Join Date: May 2008 Location: It's always Sunny... iTrader: (1)	3 days...yes bring it in. I was told they could view even the slightest misfire in the error log. That said, the same guy told me NO FAULT codes were reported after a few long cranks and yellow lights...the SAME guy refused to respond to my HPFP inquiries...the SAME guy told me my pass airbag sensor threshold was 80lbs!?!?!?! It may be a waste of your time, but still bring it in...dealers sometimes need a paper trail in order to get BMWNA authorization to do repairs. If anything, start the paper trail of complaints.
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warmtoes Lieutenant Colonel 31 Rep 1,917 Posts Drives: EBII 435i xDrive Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Vancouver iTrader: (1)	I agree with the paper trail issue. It supposedly takes 5 complete on/off cycles to clear a check engine light if there is no issue anymore. __________________ *2014 EBII 435i xDrive M-sport* Gone: 2011 TiAg F25 X3 xDrive35i M-sport Gone: 2008 TiAg w/Coral Red E88 135i Cab M-sport
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corpsman 130 kmh, yeah right. 1 Rep 194 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Montego,6MT, Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Landstuhl,Germany iTrader: (0)	I don't understand why you didn't take it in the 1st time it went on. __________________ 2009 135i Montego, black leatherette, gray poplar trim, sports package, CA, Ipod/USB, premiun stereo,Assist, took delivery nov 14, 2 weeks early. :thumbup:
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desmat First Lieutenant 37 Rep 311 Posts Drives: F31 M Sport Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Montreal iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 F31 M Sport [0.00]	Fisrt time was sunday night. Monday morning I was at the dealer. the girl advisor told me It may be a loose gaz cap. went outside and checked. Nope... Then she said it's nothing to worry about, it's PROBABLY just some emission things... And the sooner they could give me an appointment is tomorrow morning. Is it normal that I'm not satisfied with the answer given ? :iono: The light stayed on until wednesday night. I guess I'll stop by...
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10-23-2008, 05:14 PM	#11
isitspringyet Member 2 Rep 110 Posts Drives: '08 135i, '98 SLK, '03 TL/S Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Alabama iTrader: (0)	Two HPFP's later, yes take it in. If you are having long cranks with it, it will throw the code to replace the HPFP. I had no problem at all with the dealership. Newest pump is in place, 12K miles, no problems. __________________ AW 135i, MT, Black/Walnut, Sport, Premium
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Mad Dragon . 27 Rep 932 Posts Drives: 2010 GTI Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: MD iTrader: (0)	Take it in. A car with stored faults will fail emissions, even if the CEL is off.
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I-One-Da? That One Guy 12 Rep 391 Posts Drives: Join Date: May 2008 iTrader: (0)	Check out my thread. http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16269 Your issues sound similar but I am not sure since you did not give a whole lot of info. I do think that my issues are worst case scenario and that my dealership is not the best around but there could be a common issue floating around with our 1ers. The more of us that come on here and report them the better we will all get served. I have been told at first mine was the gas cap just like you. This could be false but the BMW tech told me three days later that a loose gas cap has its own fault seperate from the check engine light. I have also been through a low pressure fuel pump replacement and two coil replacements and I still have the same issues. Good luck man:thumbup: If you want more info on my dealings with the dealership PM me:w00t: Brandon __________________ \| Alpine White \| Coral \| Gloss Black \| Paddles \| Sport \| Comfort \| Heated Seats \| I-Pod \| Performance Rotors \| Shadowline Grill \| GB E-Brake \| GB Gear Selector \| 35% Tint \| BMS Intake \| GP Thunders \| Debaged \| Bimmian Black Roundels \|
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corpsman 130 kmh, yeah right. 1 Rep 194 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Montego,6MT, Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Landstuhl,Germany iTrader: (0)	Dude, the girl advisor? Does not quite sound like a mechanic. It sounds like you are hesitant to take it in. __________________ 2009 135i Montego, black leatherette, gray poplar trim, sports package, CA, Ipod/USB, premiun stereo,Assist, took delivery nov 14, 2 weeks early. :thumbup:
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esses • 19 Rep 709 Posts Drives: like I stole it. Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (1)	Take it in. __________________
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desmat First Lieutenant 37 Rep 311 Posts Drives: F31 M Sport Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Montreal iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 F31 M Sport [0.00]	Well, It's in ! Let see what they'll tell me... I-One-Da, I can't say it's the exact same problem since your car was shaking and with a rough idle and mine is not. Bad luck seems to be with you my friend... Thanks for your input guys!
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10-24-2008, 02:20 PM	#18
desmat First Lieutenant 37 Rep 311 Posts Drives: F31 M Sport Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Montreal iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 F31 M Sport [0.00]	OK, here are the details (if you can call it this way) (sorry, this is translated from french so it might not be the exact terms, and trust me, even in french it's hard to understand) CONCERN: Check engine light on for 3 days CAUSE: Software error CORRECTION: Verified if check engine light is on and OK Evap code done test plan and verified harness and OK Check fire & ignition B+ and groud and OK Done Done venting test and OK System no testing repeat test module verified bulletin and OK #160108 update on DME done special measure on DME and OK Road test OK Verify if code will be back 2A1A So... they reflashed the car. And it shows ! It seems quite similar to this post http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...highlight=2a1a except they didn't replace any parts. The girl said they reflashed the car. So I ask "is 2A1A" the error code and she's like "Hum...yeah. Sometimes it's easier to fix the car with a reflash". Anybobody knows what #160108 update and 2A1A error is? Thanks again!
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tkd Enlisted Member 3 Rep 49 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA iTrader: (1)	please update
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