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      05-30-2009, 09:12 AM   #23
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Man if I didn't recently get rims I'd be all over this.. they look like the Advans...
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      05-30-2009, 09:55 AM   #24
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Man if I didn't recently get rims I'd be all over this.. they look like the Advans...
I just bought M3 reps, which I love... I just wanted another set...

Go for it!
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      05-30-2009, 06:45 PM   #25
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Ichiban, I'm pretty sure you would rub the inner liner fairly regularly with a 9" wide rear 45 offset lowered that far. I have 9.5 inchers with 45 offsets with 245 rear tires, lowered 20mm, and very nicely rolled fenders and I rubbed a little for the first time today. You'd probably easily be able to fix your rub with a little extra camber, especially if combined with some fender mods.

That low and I'd bet the stock setup might even rub like mine, rarely, especially if carrying passengers.
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      05-30-2009, 07:40 PM   #26
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im gonna be lowered on H&R sport springs. so that's 1.8 inch drop up front and 1.3 drop i nthe rear. You think the 9.0" ET 45 wont rub?
You could probably squeeze a 255 tire on that but you'll most likely run into problems with a 265 tire...
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      05-30-2009, 09:59 PM   #27
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I'm looking for a set of track wheels so I'd like to know what the weights are. Rotas are typically cheap and light..

As far as the offsets go, shouldn't whoever is making a profit from the transaction do the testing necessary to figure out proper offsets ?

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      05-31-2009, 04:48 AM   #28
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I'm looking for a set of track wheels so I'd like to know what the weights are. Rotas are typically cheap and light..

As far as the offsets go, shouldn't whoever is making a profit from the transaction do the testing necessary to figure out proper offsets ?

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Rota will have final say. If you like these wheels (which are fairly cheap and light), Post you are interested pending the final offset.
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Will these wheels be available in different colors?
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      05-31-2009, 11:05 AM   #30
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With only a 5 set run, Zoeb said that all will be one color. I was thinking silver would be the most appealing for most colors. They can do other colors, however it might be hard to find 5 buyers for another color...
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Will these wheels be available in different colors?
From post 21, see above...
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I'll join almost any group buy that actually happens !

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With only a 5 set run, Zoeb said that all will be one color. I was thinking silver would be the most appealing for most colors. They can do other colors, however it might be hard to find 5 buyers for another color...


Ooops! sorry... anyway, thanks M3R1.
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      06-02-2009, 12:53 PM   #33
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yup u can count me in but I wont be able to give my deposit until July/August... would that be ok? I am 100% thou


Also can we can tire/tpms package?

thanks
The sooner you put down your deposit, the more likely you are to get a spot. I'm not sure how many runs will be done.

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I'd be in for the Rota's...but what colors are available..just silver?
just silver for now

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I'm looking for a set of track wheels so I'd like to know what the weights are. Rotas are typically cheap and light..

As far as the offsets go, shouldn't whoever is making a profit from the transaction do the testing necessary to figure out proper offsets ?

Jeff
It's not really what we want, I can do the research and get it done for you, but when we do it, it will be a conservative offset. I think what others are trying to figure out is the most aggressive offset that can be run without having to worry about rubbing issues with certain tires.

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Well this is most likely going to happen as long as we start seeing some deposits.

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      06-02-2009, 01:06 PM   #34
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Is +45 the final offset for the rear? I've been wanting this style wheel forever, but we need higher offsets than that for it to look right. If the offset is too high, we can always space them out, but if it's too low we're stuck with it. Lets see +50.

If we can get the right offsets, I'm in.
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      06-02-2009, 01:10 PM   #35
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Wow lots of tech talk ... I really wish I understood offsets and fitment better.
All I know is I want that sexy advan rs concave look which I believe comes with a high offset

The higher offset moves the wheel inward, toward the suspension. To get the concave look, you actually want to move it out, but we're going to be very limited with the 135i's factory offsets so high. Better IMO to have good fitment than concave looks on a wheel that rubs.
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      06-02-2009, 01:10 PM   #36
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Is +45 the final offset for the rear? I've been wanting this style wheel forever, but we need higher offsets than that for it to look right. If the offset is too high, we can always space them out, but if it's too low we're stuck with it. Lets see +50.
I just emailed the engineers to see the highest possible offset we can do this wheel in.

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      06-02-2009, 01:11 PM   #37
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The higher offset moves the wheel inward, toward the suspension. To get the concave look, you actually want to move it out, but we're going to be very limited with the 135i's factory offsets so high. Better IMO to have good fitment than concave looks on a wheel that rubs.
The offset is not going to change the concavity of the wheel, it's not the face that's changed, it's the mounting pad.

You will still get the concave with the high offset.
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      06-02-2009, 01:13 PM   #38
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I just emailed the engineers to see the highest possible offset we can do this wheel in.

Zoeb

Very cool. If you guys get it right, you've got my money.

I love CSLs, and BBS, but they just don't look great on our cars for some reason.
This style is the best looking wheel I've seen yet on the 135i.

(Not the same wheel exactly, but very similar)

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The offset is not going to change the concavity of the wheel, it's not the face that's changed, it's the mounting pad.

You will still get the concave with the high offset.

You're right, that's true to a point. Some of the wheels are using thinner mounting pads to get the concave look though, and it limits the mount of offset they can get. I'm interested to hear what the engineers come back with on this setup. It looks like it's got some meat around the mounting pad so hopefully there's enough there to give us what we need without compromising the wheels.
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Is +45 the final offset for the rear? I've been wanting this style wheel forever, but we need higher offsets than that for it to look right. If the offset is too high, we can always space them out, but if it's too low we're stuck with it. Lets see +50.

If we can get the right offsets, I'm in.
Keep in mind these will only be 9" rears. Don't be afraid of et45...

This is my 18 x 9" rear with an et43 (with 255 Toyo R1R's on the rear), and they look awesome...







I vote et45 rear, I do not want to run spacers.
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This is my 18 x 9" rear with an et43 (with 255 Toyo R1R's on the rear), and they look awesome...

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Not to me they don't. Especially the front. That fitment doesn't look aggressive to me, it looks like it's wrong.
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Not to me they don't. Especially the front. That fitment doesn't look aggressive to me, it looks like it's wrong.
Really, perhaps it's the pics? I thought they looked great... The fronts are no where near the fender, I could definately get 235's in there without a problem.

Oh well, lets see what the Rota people say...
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Oh well, lets see what the Rota people say...

I agree. I'll honestly be shocked if they can do >50 anyway.

I like these wheels so much I may jump on them either way, but I'd really like to see something close to the stock offsets. From what I've read there's some wiggle room on the inside, especially on the rear, so I'd hope we could go with factory offsets and a half inch wider rim without rubbing. That way we know it would be ok on the outside and we might be able to go to 265s without rolling.

FWIW, I didn't mean those wheels look bad, just not perfect. I'm not a huge fan of that style on the 135i. I'm being picky about wheel choice and offset because I only want to do it once, and I'm finding that on this car I don't like most wheels that look great on other BMWs. I'm not sure why that is though.
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I agree. I'll honestly be shocked if they can do >50 anyway.

I like these wheels so much I may jump on them either way, but I'd really like to see something close to the stock offsets. From what I've read there's some wiggle room on the inside, especially on the rear, so I'd hope we could go with factory offsets and a half inch wider rim without rubbing. That way we know it would be ok on the outside and we might be able to go to 265s without rolling.

FWIW, I didn't mean those wheels look bad, just not perfect. I'm not a huge fan of that style on the 135i. I'm being picky about wheel choice and offset because I only want to do it once, and I'm finding that on this car I don't like most wheels that look great on other BMWs. I'm not sure why that is though.
Funny you say you want to stay as close to factory offsets as possible, because I just think the OEM offsets are just too conservative. I ran 12mm spacers in the front and 10mm spacers in the rear on my 264's without any issues, they did look a whole lot better to me though. I really do not want to run spacers on any wheel I purchase. Give me some aggressive offsets please, I want them at the wheel wells (not past)!!!

Wheels choices are very subjective, some like big chrome wheels with rivits around the OD, some like OEM etc...

Anyhoo, we shall see...
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