trade evo for the 135?

[Uptown Bully]

I like the looks of this one.

[Blacky]

Interesting times Car Whore I just notice the 130 is quicker than the 135 - Woo Hoo, I like the sound of that!

[E82tt6]

Originally Posted by Blacky

Interesting times Car Whore I just notice the 130 is quicker than the 135 - Woo Hoo, I like the sound of that!

In every track test I've seen the 135 actually falls between the 335 and the e46 m3, usually much closer to the m3 than the 335. That time is clearly an outlier. 135=335 with 200lbs less weight, smaller, more agressive suspension tuning, and vastly superior brakes.

Don't think that time is terribly accurate :-)

[Blacky]

Either way those numbers do it for me LOL

[Car Whore]

Couple notes about the times... they are all official and typically all done (some exceptions *cough* GTR) in 100% stock form... tires/brakes/suspension etc.

I too was very surprised the 135 was slower than the 335 but remember the 'ring is a tight track in many parts & the 1 series has been reviewed to be not the tightest suspension for a track (stock) so it's just a general measurement for out of the box performance. As we all know just a few changes to the car can really tweak how it can perform.

They are normally driven by professional drivers as well...

[E82tt6]

Originally Posted by Car Whore

Couple notes about the times... they are all official and typically all done (some exceptions *cough* GTR) in 100% stock form... tires/brakes/suspension etc.

I too was very surprised the 135 was slower than the 335 but remember the 'ring is a tight track in many parts & the 1 series has been reviewed to be not the tightest suspension for a track (stock) so it's just a general measurement for out of the box performance. As we all know just a few changes to the car can really tweak how it can perform.

They are normally driven by professional drivers as well...

Check out some of the comparo track tests 335/135/m3. Its pretty clear that time is off. 10+ seconds is an eternity.

As for not having the tightest suspension, this is true, but it handles much better than a 335. Many of the suspension components are the same car to car, and those that aren't have been stiffened on the 1. Less weight, stiffer suspension, same power, smaller dimensions. Not much more needs to be said than that.

Perhaps the time you listed was in the rain? What test is that from?

[adc]

Originally Posted by E82TT6

Check out some of the comparo track tests 335/135/m3. Its pretty clear that time is off. 10+ seconds is an eternity.

+1 - something has got to be wrong/different. That would be a time for the 123d, perhaps. :smile:

I mean, the 335i flops like a fish on the Ring - the 135i while still not a tightly buttoned-down marvel, should be measurably better than the 335i. It has been on every other track...

[YearOneOfThe1]

the 1 gets the ladies...... + interior is comfortable.