US MSRP for US Delivery PLUS Military Pricing

ibeam81 · 11-14-2007, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MPower

According to Scott and a member (forget the name) that talked to a UK BMW dealer, the tii will be cheaper

If true (and Scott has a habit of being right) then the tii would be an intriquing option. So I guess that we should plan for some more waiting then, if we're interested in the tii. That's just peachy!

imported_MPower · 11-14-2007, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ibeam81

If true (and Scott has a habit of being right) then the tii would be an intriquing option. So I guess that we should plan for some more waiting then, if we're interested in the tii. That's just peachy!

Oh, I am ready for a lot more waiting. Still, I am really excited to see the 1er this weekend at the LA Auto Show.

atr_hugo · 11-14-2007, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MPower

I keep hearing the Cayman S being listed as a competitor but it really isn't in any way except straight line pace. I mean, sure, in comparison to a Ferrari F430, a BMW M5 makes a pretty damn good value proposition for little sacrifice in terms of straight line pace. But that comparison is no means to conclude that any car is properly priced.

Understood - the 135i won't (can't) have the driving dynamics of the Cayman. The 135i becomes acceptable to me knowing that I won't track it often, I'll be doing a lot of driving in the mountains (turbos a + here) and I'm a Scot at heart.

But - should I be looking at a Z51 C6 Corvette too? Yup, suspect so after the latest updates.

kurichan · 11-14-2007, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MPower

I keep hearing the Cayman S being listed as a competitor but it really isn't in any way except straight line pace.

The Cayman S isn't competition. It's a radically better car all around. And much more expensive. And worth it to some. I look forward to driving them back to back and deciding if the Cayman or 911 is worth the difference. Right now I am leaning away from the 135i. Understeer, vague steering, pork, and probable engine glitches are too much of a downer at any price.

ppDoc · 11-14-2007, 09:32 PM

a vette in a mountain? make sure u don't get torque steer veering u off the mountain

ibeam81 · 11-14-2007, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MPower

Oh, I am ready for a lot more waiting. Still, I am really excited to see the 1er this weekend at the LA Auto Show.

Waiting seems to be part of the price of being in the 1er fan club. :smile:

Keep us posted on the show I'm curious what someone with a critical eye thinks about the 1er.

ibeam81 · 11-14-2007, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DiaBLoS

a vette in a mountain? make sure u don't get torque steer veering u off the mountain

Ouch!!!

Come on a Z51 C6 is no slouch, even on mountain roads.

Robert · 11-14-2007, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ice13water

looks like im going with the civic SI

That is a great car. My daily commuter is a regular civic and I love it but I need something more fun for my weekend car.

MikeT · 11-14-2007, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Evan55

Extremely dissapointing pricing. I had hope after last months Motortrend article. Oh well.

You brand snobs need to get a clue. A bmw pinwheel on the hood isnt worth a dime. A car is a car. I want a fast, good looking rwd coupe.
Since the 1 is so overpriced, I will be taking a hard look at the new Hyundai "genesis" or whatever they will call it. 10/100 will be nice too.
The domestics have been showing a lot of promise lately too.

That Hyundai looks promising, and I wish you luck.

Still, I don't quite understand how anyone could be taken by surprise by this pricing. Yes, I know that some of the auto rags speculated about a $26K 128i and a $31K 135i, but those magazines are notoriously unreliable and such pricing was never realistic as was pointed out by the numerous folks on this very board who have been trying to rationally discuss the price for months.

My guess is that the 1er coupe will sell VERY WELL in the U.S. at these prices.

Disasterpiece · 11-14-2007, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ice13water

looks like im going with the civic SI

Im thinking about a Si aswell..But a BMW is a BMW and if i get a base 128i i think id be darn happy, way more happy then a Si!

Robert · 11-14-2007, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Evan55

You brand snobs need to get a clue. A bmw pinwheel on the hood isnt worth a dime. A car is a car. I want a fast, good looking rwd coupe.
Since the 1 is so overpriced, I will be taking a hard look at the new Hyundai "genesis" or whatever they will call it. 10/100 will be nice too.
The domestics have been showing a lot of promise lately too.

There is no need for name calling. You have to realize value is subjective to one's income and willingness to spend. You are eliminating a competitor solely on rag reviews.

Basically you want something fast ( 0-60 < 5seconds), handles great, good looking and less than 30k. I really don't see a new stock car with these criteria and meet your MSRP requirement. You may be able get a EVO or STI at low 30s for base price (32-33k I dont know the pricing on them) but I wouldn't say the 135i is so overpriced. It's only 2-3k more than its competitor. Otherwise you have to make some concession on the requirements. A g37 optioned to the spec I want (sports + nav) comes out around 45-46k as well.

135i has the potential to be a 350-400hp for 500-1200 dollars more. That by itself is a great bargain. I am sure you can do that with the EVO and STI and that's why they are on my shopping list as well. But I really dont want to be associated as a boy racer.

tturedraider · 11-14-2007, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DiaBLoS

a vette in a mountain? make sure u don't get torque steer veering u off the mountain

torque steer?! on a rear wheel drive 'vette?

:iono:

ppDoc · 11-14-2007, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tturedraider

torque steer?! on a rear wheel drive 'vette?

:iono:

ooops, just disregard my comment. lol i was drunk :drinking:

ibeam81 · 11-14-2007, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Disasterpiece

Im thinking about a Si aswell..But a BMW is a BMW and if i get a base 128i i think id be darn happy, way more happy then a Si!

The Si is a great car, but I do wish that Honda would go with a more conventional dash. The digital instruments in the S2000 ruined that car too and were a deal breaker for me.

Although Honda makes some of the best FWD's in the world, they are still FWD. RWD just feels better in my hands. YMMV.

Robert · 11-14-2007, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ibeam81

The Si is a great car, but I do wish that Honda would go with a more conventional dash. The digital instruments in the S2000 ruined that car too and were a deal breaker for me.

Although Honda makes some of the best FWD's in the world, they are still FWD. RWD just feels better in my hands. YMMV.

Yea the new dash is a love or hate. I love it.

cracka · 11-14-2007, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DiaBLoS

ooops, just disregard my comment. lol i was drunk :drinking:

Thought it was a Chevette? :biggrin:

ibeam81 · 11-14-2007, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DiaBLoS

ooops, just disregard my comment. lol i was drunk :drinking:

Or confusing Vette with Chevette. Now that car on a mountain road would be bordering on suicidal.

edit. Cracka beat me to it.

cracka · 11-14-2007, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ibeam81

Or confusing Vette with Chevette. Now that car on a mountain road would be bordering on suicidal.

high *5*, ibeam. :wink:

135i_ · 11-14-2007, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Italteen3

Exactly! I remember reading some people saying 38k. Im still getting it. $35,000 is fine for me.

As for all the people whining and saying that people expected it to be less..... the realistic ones didn't. The 28 is a little higher than i expected and the 35 is right where I thought it would be.

Disasterpiece · 11-14-2007, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ibeam81

The Si is a great car, but I do wish that Honda would go with a more conventional dash. The digital instruments in the S2000 ruined that car too and were a deal breaker for me.

Although Honda makes some of the best FWD's in the world, they are still FWD. RWD just feels better in my hands. YMMV.

I like that dash!
I own a 07 Honda right now, so when i upgrade i want to UPGRADE, and the 128i is much more of a upgrade then another Honda!

ibeam81 · 11-14-2007, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 135i_

As for all the people whining and saying that people expected it to be less..... the realistic ones didn't. The 28 is a little higher than i expected and the 35 is right where I thought it would be.

This is one of those cases where it sucks to be right.

NJKSC27 · 11-14-2007, 10:04 PM

exactly what i thought....

i did think the 128 would come in less then that though, like 27 maybe

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