New m235 or 2011 911

Tonytuna · 07-07-2013, 05:12 PM

My current 2011 135i is coming off lease. I am trying to work out options and this is one. What are your thoughts?

zamboni · 07-07-2013, 05:16 PM

Make the move to 911 you already had a run on 135i.

TheSt|G · 07-07-2013, 05:21 PM

Clearly the 911. M235i is going to be a significant step down from the 135i.

Badabing · 07-07-2013, 05:26 PM

This seems like an easy choice. 911.

doublevanosrc · 07-07-2013, 05:35 PM

911, especially if it's a 997.2

P7X · 07-07-2013, 06:30 PM

911 cause then you have tasted Porsche and if you dont like it you can sell it and grab the 2 series.

Greenkirby21 · 07-07-2013, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSt|G

Clearly the 911. M235i is going to be a significant step down from the 135i.

Can you explain how/why the M235i is worst than 135i since the car isn't out yet? Seems to be like a 135is?

But ya 911 for sure all the way. Although I am sure the price difference between the two would be very big o_0

cheshirecat79 · 07-07-2013, 07:30 PM

These two vehicles aren't even in the same class. Easily 911 if cost is not an option.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenkirby21

Can you explain how/why the M235i is worst than 135i since the car isn't out yet? Seems to be like a 135is?

N55 and drive by wire steering are the most obvious differences. If the same loss of feedback from the F-body 3 series carries over, the 235 may no longer be a drivers' car. I'm hoping that isn't the case.

Greenkirby21 · 07-07-2013, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cheshirecat79

These two vehicles aren't even in the same class. Easily 911 if cost is not an option.

N55 and drive by wire steering are the most obvious differences. If the same loss of feedback from the F-body 3 series carries over, the 235 may no longer be a drivers' car. I'm hoping that isn't the case.

Yes I definitely agree with the steering. Hopefully BMW listened to the F20 M135i and F30 3 series complaints... I have heard that the 3 series have been getting some software upgrades to make the steering feel better..

In terms of engine, don't the current (post 2011) 135i and 135is use the N55?

tuco44 · 07-07-2013, 09:27 PM

Yes, N55 engine in 135 since 2011; and it's just fine, less fussy than the N54, and less problems. Not as tuneable, if that is important.

TheSt|G · 07-07-2013, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheshirecat79

N55 and drive by wire steering are the most obvious differences. If the same loss of feedback from the F-body 3 series carries over, the 235 may no longer be a drivers' car. I'm hoping that isn't the case.

Exactly.

Same power and the crap EPS the rest of them have now. You also get synthesized engine noise. No upgrades at all.

Blader · 07-08-2013, 12:24 AM

The M235i will have the same power train as the M135i which has had good reviews and I have driven it and it goes very nicely better than the stock 135i

JTB · 07-08-2013, 05:28 AM

Depends on how you plan to use it and what is important to you. The BMW is a better daily driver, the Porsche is a better weekend car. Coming from a 911 turbo, I actually like my 1 better day to day. The Porsche is, however, a better drive and is definitely more fun.

The attention you get and road noise of the Porsche get a little old day in and day out.

msf · 07-08-2013, 01:01 PM

I came from a 2008 911 Turbo manual with Sport Chrono to 2013 135is DCT. The MSRP on the TT was $132,000. I like the 135is better. I put 38,000 miles on the 911 TT in 3 years. I have over 2000 on the 135is after two months. I would grab a 135is while you still can.

Gray_Panther · 07-08-2013, 05:17 PM

Why are there no pictures in this thread?

boarderofsnow86 · 07-08-2013, 06:18 PM

911. I don't think I would like racking up miles on it for a daily driver though.

Ash83 · 07-10-2013, 11:16 AM

lol, 911 all day

ilikebmxbikes · 07-10-2013, 11:24 AM

911 hands down. Its a class above an entry level bmw.

dsh135 · 09-06-2013, 05:28 PM

M235i vs 911 depends on your priorities. If power is one of them and you're willing to mod, the 1 series kicks the base 911's butt. Even with N55 you're only FBO's w/meth away from roughly 420 fwhp and 480 fwtq against the 911's 350 fwhp and 287 fwtq. Light mods on the 911 will never get you close, you'd need a turbo conversion $$$. Even the new 911S with bolt-ons only gets you about even on hp and still short on torque.

The 911 will handle better stock-for-stock and probably even after the best 1 series handling mods you can find. And of course, it's a Porsche. I had a new Boxster S back in 2001-03. Fantastic car and there are things I miss about it, but I like my 135i better.

box_man · 09-06-2013, 05:48 PM

911 all day. I have driven a 997 Carrera S and it is such a fun car to drive, The sound of the flat 6 at high RPM's will put a smile on your face from ear to ear.

gerrygug · 09-06-2013, 07:11 PM

+++++++++++++911

IEDEI · 09-06-2013, 08:33 PM

CAYMAN.

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JTB Private First Class 18 Rep 116 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Colorado iTrader: (2)	Depends on how you plan to use it and what is important to you. The BMW is a better daily driver, the Porsche is a better weekend car. Coming from a 911 turbo, I actually like my 1 better day to day. The Porsche is, however, a better drive and is definitely more fun. The attention you get and road noise of the Porsche get a little old day in and day out. __________________ JTB Spec Miata - 2nd SCCA RMDiv 2014 Spec Miata - 2nd SCCA RMDiv 2013 2009 135i - let the modding begin!
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dsh135 Private 9 Rep 75 Posts Drives: 2011 BMW 135i Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Toronto-ish iTrader: (0)	M235i vs 911 depends on your priorities. If power is one of them and you're willing to mod, the 1 series kicks the base 911's butt. Even with N55 you're only FBO's w/meth away from roughly 420 fwhp and 480 fwtq against the 911's 350 fwhp and 287 fwtq. Light mods on the 911 will never get you close, you'd need a turbo conversion $$$. Even the new 911S with bolt-ons only gets you about even on hp and still short on torque. The 911 will handle better stock-for-stock and probably even after the best 1 series handling mods you can find. And of course, it's a Porsche. I had a new Boxster S back in 2001-03. Fantastic car and there are things I miss about it, but I like my 135i better.
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