Would you trade a 135i for a 335d?

[roscoe]

That's exactly the quandary I have right now. After many problems with my 135i - and vocal but restrained talks with the dealership - they have offered to put me in the seat of 2011 335d with Premium and Nav packages. Payments will be roughly the same as what I'm paying now, as they are heavily discounting the 335d.

I have owned several turbodiesels in the past, and I always loved the mileage but deplored the pathetic acceleration. Now here's a car that has the acceleration problem licked while still keeping up the fuel economy.

Question is, if I go this route, will the sacrifice in performance be so much that I will regret my decision? I've driven the 335d already, and while it's quick, there are no North American tuning options that I've come across. So I'll be stuck with the power I've got.

What would you do? In need of honest feedback here...thx

[Add1ct]

YES. I would have gotten a 335d a couple months ago when I got my 335i but the diesels have such horrible lease rates and I got the 335i at 19k off sticker. if you've had turbodiesels then you know how great they can be. you've had a 135i too so you know what it feels like when a car pulls hard. put those two together- 335d. I test drove a 335d last summer and was amazed. it was so much fun. go drive it. you'll buy it.

[Judge]

Originally Posted by roscoe

I've driven the 335d already, and while it's quick, there are no North American tuning options that I've come across. So I'll be stuck with the power I've got.

Well you've driven one and are already wishing for a tune to improve its power. Sounds like you might regret your decision to go this route. Most people like what they have and gradually get bored, but you appear to already be there.

I don't know enough about the 335d to give you an informed opinion, but I know I wouldn't pull the trigger on something I was heavily doubting in the first place. Are your 135i troubles that serious? If it isn't worth the hassle then you might be better off but right now it kind of seems like you're just settling.

[michifan]

Originally Posted by Judge

Well you've driven one and are already wishing for a tune to improve its power. Sounds like you might regret your decision to go this route. Most people like what they have and gradually get bored, but you appear to already be there.

I don't know enough about the 335d to give you an informed opinion, but I know I wouldn't pull the trigger on something I was heavily doubting in the first place. Are your 135i troubles that serious? If it isn't worth the hassle then you might be better off but right now it kind of seems like you're just settling.

My brother just bought a 335d and absolutely loves it. I also know BMS is beta testing a tune that will bring up the horsepower.

They are discounting the heck out of the car right now, and there may still be some federal diesel incentives as well. My brother got a screaming good deal on the car.

I wouldn't take any BMW without the m-sport package and make sure it has the bells and whistles that you want, but unless you are trading a convertible, you are getting a lot more car for the same payment.

[roscoe]

Originally Posted by Judge

Well you've driven one and are already wishing for a tune to improve its power. Sounds like you might regret your decision to go this route. Most people like what they have and gradually get bored, but you appear to already be there.

No, I'm not "already bored" as you put. Rather, I'm just trying to think ahead. I've had my 135i for 18 months now, and wasn't even thinking of an ECU upgrade for another 6 months or so, as the power has been most satisfactory. With a 335d, I know that I will eventually want to upgrade its power too. Emphasis on "eventually." Just thinking of all the angles here, even the ones that are two years out...

[roscoe]

Originally Posted by michifan

I wouldn't take any BMW without the m-sport package and make sure it has the bells and whistles that you want, but unless you are trading a convertible, you are getting a lot more car for the same payment.

Yeah, good point. Many posts and reviews that I've read about the 335d state that the stock seats just aren't up to scratch. And having M Sport package currently on my 1-er, I know how good those sport seats are, and I would very likely miss them a lot.

I think the 335d on offer is Premium and Nav only, as it's just the car they happen to have on the lot. I could always request something else though and see if one + M sport is available from a different dealer.

[Monterra]

335d impressed the hell out me! I love my car but I can def. see me rocking the 335d maybe 4 or 5 yrs down the road.

[Freakazoid]

335d is a completely different car than the 135i.... it's bigger, feels bigger and is torque heavy...but no real top end.

Honestly I think you'd get bored of it. I wasn't too impressed when I drove one. Very nice, but just generally not impressed

[saeyedoc]

Link to JB Diesel beta: http://www.burgertuning.com/BMW_JBD_...ance_chip.html

[vrod]

Would you trade a 135i for a 335d?
I would if it had an option for a manual transmission

[jhuber]

Originally Posted by maxnix

335d will be my 135i stable mate i a year or two.

agreed id love both but probably not want to give up my 1 for the 335d

[john08135i]

You know the 335d does have $4500 eco credit to dealer right now..so maybe they are not really "discounting" it themselves.

I almost just traded my ONE for one but all they had were base models. So i got a new acura TL instead.

[Add1ct]

jb tune means +60 hp and +100 tq- that means 325hp and 525 ft lbs, that's not just wow, that's holy shit!

[TP 135i]

Right now I wouldn't as I love my 135.....however.....when they decide to bring out a 135d...that would be a different story.
The 3 series are just too big for me. The 1 series is the perfect size

It's all about size.......size matters !

[Raine]

Originally Posted by TP 135i

Right now I wouldn't as I love my 135.....however.....when they decide to bring out a 135d...that would be a different story.
The 3 series are just too big for me. The 1 series is the perfect size

It's all about size.......size matters !

lol i just realized the other day how short the 1 series is

perfect for sneaking through traffic

[jeremyc74]

I wouldn't even consider the 335d to be honest. Here in the States the premium for the diesel along with the performance difference just isn't justified by the increased mileage IMO.

[MarkR171]

The only way I would consider trading for a 335d is if I had a family. Being single and young, 135i for me.

[Add1ct]

Originally Posted by jeremyc74

I wouldn't even consider the 335d to be honest. Here in the States the premium for the diesel along with the performance difference just isn't justified by the increased mileage IMO.

that's interesting because out here where gas and diesel are usually insanely priced, diesel is actually hovering around the price of regular

[jkp1187]

Originally Posted by Add1ct

that's interesting because out here where gas and diesel are usually insanely priced, diesel is actually hovering around the price of regular

Around here diesel is about the same as premium.

I'd snap up a 335d in a heartbeat - if it came in a sportswagen version with AWD, anyway. Wouldn't trade the 1er for it, though - I'd use it to replace my wife's Pontiac.

Regarding the original question: sure, I guess if I was inclined to get rid of the 1er, and wanted four doors, and it's more or less a straight-up trade, I'd go for the AMG.

[Cuz5150]

I would, however no manual(not a big problem with a deisel)
The scary part is the "cleaning" of the "watchmecallit" particular filter. From what i hear, it needs to be cleaned or the ECU will shut down the car. BWM service will clean it(for an arm and leg)
I don't like to be "tied" to BMW service if you know what i mean.

[jeremyc74]

Originally Posted by Add1ct

that's interesting because out here where gas and diesel are usually insanely priced, diesel is actually hovering around the price of regular

The price difference between diesel and gasoline fluctuates with the seasons, and shipping traffic, but I was talking about the premium cost of the car itself when compared to a gas version that has the same performance.

It takes a lot of fuel savings to cover the typical $3-5k more a diesel typically costs here.

[RPM90]

Originally Posted by roscoe

That's exactly the quandary I have right now. After many problems with my 135i - and vocal but restrained talks with the dealership - they have offered to put me in the seat of 2011 335d with Premium and Nav packages. Payments will be roughly the same as what I'm paying now, as they are heavily discounting the 335d.

I have owned several turbodiesels in the past, and I always loved the mileage but deplored the pathetic acceleration. Now here's a car that has the acceleration problem licked while still keeping up the fuel economy.

Question is, if I go this route, will the sacrifice in performance be so much that I will regret my decision? I've driven the 335d already, and while it's quick, there are no North American tuning options that I've come across. So I'll be stuck with the power I've got.

What would you do? In need of honest feedback here...thx

For me, I wouldn't want one.
I can appreciate the high tech nature of that engine and how solid Euro diesels are. But, in a performance vehicle I prefer high rpm with the power band that climbs with revs. Even our TT is more diesel like than it should be, as torque builds fast and high, levels, and then sinks. A diesel is even more so. That's why the 335D had prodigious torque but can't match the 335i's accel numbers. It FEELS faster as it pulls like a truck, but ultimately it's better suited for low strung performance driving, city use, and if you live in heavy hilly terrain. I'm sure in Germany and in US mountainous areas the 335D is the ticket.

BTW, in case someone brings it up, I am aware of the amazing R8 diesel.