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[Frampton]

just a hypothesis but my guess would be that if you tuned the 1M which has an N54 you would get the exact same output as if you tuned an N54 135/335/535 but in a much more capable chassis

[KingOfJericho]

Originally Posted by Frampton

just a hypothesis but my guess would be that if you tuned the 1M which has an N54 you would get the exact same output as if you tuned an N54 135/335/535 but in a much more capable chassis

I concur.

[Red135]

Originally Posted by Frampton

just a hypothesis but my guess would be that if you tuned the 1M which has an N54 you would get the exact same output as if you tuned an N54 135/335/535 but in a much more capable chassis

Then, since the 1M has 30hp more than the others, you would be getting less of an increase in performance for the same cost. It wouldn't be worth it.

[KingOfJericho]

Originally Posted by Red135

Then, since the 1M has 30hp more than the others, you would be getting less of an increase in performance for the same cost. It wouldn't be worth it.

I disagree with this entirely. It would still be money well spent. I would love it even more knowing that the chassis capabilities now match the engine output.

[Red135]

Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

I disagree with this entirely. It would still be money well spent.

Of course you do. Paying the same amount of money for half of the performance isn't money well spent.

[KingOfJericho]

Do people in California, where they are limited to the 91 map, get a discount as well?

[Red135]

Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

Do people in California, where they are limited to the 91 map, get a discount as well?

Entirely different point. BMS doesn't charge the same price for the JB+ and the JB4. Are reduced tune is essentially what you would be getting if they tuned the 1M to the same output as a 135. But if you think it is worth, you go for it.

[KingOfJericho]

The problem is that it's more than likely going to be the same unit which can already be used on the 1/3/535 and I'm not sure how they would limit it to only work on the 1M.

[Red135]

The unit shouldn't be limited to the 1M. It just needs to be a new map. Is flash tuning capable of autotuning like the JB4?

[135i, MD]

Found this post from Travis at COBB in their forums (on 4-11-11):

Right now we have support for the 2007-2010 N54 vehicles, we are working on adding support for all 2011+ vehicles, both the base N55 and the M-coupe N54, however, we do not have a release date for that support right now.


So perhaps this does confirm that we can use the same AP for the 1M Coupe? Probably a new map...

I do agree with the above. Logically, it would in all likelihood be a similar tune as my 135i, with the obvious added 1M goodies including LSD, suspension, etc.

[rader1]

Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

The COBB AP (stage 1) was released pretty much out of the blue without a thread tracking their progress. They seem to be a company that doesn't need to Donald Trump a product - they simply put it out when it's ready and I assume they will do the same for this... I don't think they owe us any weekly progress update. This isn't an Alufelgen situation

I'm not trying to sound like a prick, but I think they do owe us. It seems like a lot of people on here feel like we owe the vendors a favor because they make products for our cars and give us the "privelage" of paying a bmw tax for said product. Some ppl have more money than brains. I'm not singling anyone out here, but I've seen a few threads that seems like a pissing match of got the pay the highest price for what's really a 300 part. I mean we are their customers, and we spent $900 on their product. And a lot of us bought this with the selling point of stage 2 being available soon. I'm just asking for someone to give an update on products theve been promising.

[Lambobimmer]

Originally Posted by rader1

I'm not trying to sound like a prick, but I think they do owe us. It seems like a lot of people on here feel like we owe the vendors a favor because they make products for our cars and give us the "privelage" of paying a bmw tax for said product. Some ppl have more money than brains. I'm not singling anyone out here, but I've seen a few threads that seems like a pissing match of got the pay the highest price for what's really a 300 part. I mean we are their customers, and we spent $900 on their product. And a lot of us bought this with the selling point of stage 2 being available soon. I'm just asking for someone to give an update on products theve been promising.

I am with you. Official update would be nice.

[RnmEvo9]

Originally Posted by rader1

I'm not trying to sound like a prick, but I think they do owe us. It seems like a lot of people on here feel like we owe the vendors a favor because they make products for our cars and give us the "privelage" of paying a bmw tax for said product. Some ppl have more money than brains. I'm not singling anyone out here, but I've seen a few threads that seems like a pissing match of got the pay the highest price for what's really a 300 part. I mean we are their customers, and we spent $900 on their product. And a lot of us bought this with the selling point of stage 2 being available soon. I'm just asking for someone to give an update on products theve been promising.

+1

[escobar929]

Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

The COBB AP (stage 1) was released pretty much out of the blue without a thread tracking their progress. They seem to be a company that doesn't need to Donald Trump a product - they simply put it out when it's ready and I assume they will do the same for this... I don't think they owe us any weekly progress update. This isn't an Alufelgen situation

exactly, people need to relax and stop asking for updates, it will be out the second Cobb feels its ready. If anything I like this approach better than some of the group buys going on in this site, where you get updates, they just never mean anything

as far as it goes for the 1M, you cant say it should be cheaper for the 1M since you dont get as much performance as the 135i. Specially using the jb+ to jb4 comparison, its not apples to apples.

Those are two diff products which yield diff results. In this case, its the same product and will yield the same outcome, you just wont see the same % gains since you had more power to start

Originally Posted by rader1

I'm not trying to sound like a prick, but I think they do owe us. It seems like a lot of people on here feel like we owe the vendors a favor because they make products for our cars and give us the "privelage" of paying a bmw tax for said product. Some ppl have more money than brains. I'm not singling anyone out here, but I've seen a few threads that seems like a pissing match of got the pay the highest price for what's really a 300 part. I mean we are their customers, and we spent $900 on their product. And a lot of us bought this with the selling point of stage 2 being available soon. I'm just asking for someone to give an update on products theve been promising.

valid point

[Frampton]

i would think their (COBB's) time is probably better spent heads down working on Stage 2, the N55, refining and updating the Stage 1 maps, and actual development rather than wasting their time reading and answering thread after thread on multiple forums every day. I'm all for communication and you do have a point. Just my opinion though...

[KingOfJericho]

Originally Posted by rader1

I'm not trying to sound like a prick, but I think they do owe us. It seems like a lot of people on here feel like we owe the vendors a favor because they make products for our cars and give us the "privelage" of paying a bmw tax for said product. Some ppl have more money than brains. I'm not singling anyone out here, but I've seen a few threads that seems like a pissing match of got the pay the highest price for what's really a 300 part. I mean we are their customers, and we spent $900 on their product. And a lot of us bought this with the selling point of stage 2 being available soon. I'm just asking for someone to give an update on products theve been promising.

If you were putting your name on the product, I expect that you would want it to be perfected to your liking. If the product was ready to go they would have released it. They're not intentionally harming us in any way - in fact they're doing just the opposite. Why would you want a rushed product!? I'm sure you'd be the first to complain if it wasn't working 100% right out of the box... There are other vendors out there with products that will fill your void. If this wait is so bothersome then why don't you take your business elsewhere?

[rader1]

I'm not asking them to release the product untested, id just like someone to drop by and say " hey xxxx at cobb here, were doing testing of atr/stage 2/whatever and things are going well, should be ready for release end of may" something like that, not silence.

[Kamal]

Originally Posted by 2010AW135i

Can we get an answer on this? Ive read all 27 pages and didnt see a reply to this

thanks!!

might be worth calling or emailing Cobb directly to get the answer... I doubt they'll read every single post and answer every single question.

[Shellacked135i]

Its simple why they dont give release dates, they cant factor in outside problems that may interfere with deadlines. Instead of saying 2 weeks. They just show up like they always do when its complete.

They got held up on the 07 support IIRC which slowed down other things.

They do have other stuff they sell besides COBB AP units for BMW's. They make a lot of products for other cars too. They cant put all their eggs in one basket either.

Dont get me wrong I've been patiently waiting for ATR's release too.

I got my Cobb AP for www.topgearsolutions.com and Jeff said what he's heard from the grapevine is stage 2 in the next few weeks. How much truth is there we dont know as he said its just speculation from other members perhaps.

[COBB Tuning]

Originally Posted by Lord Cuckoo

Is there a limit to the number of times the ECU can be flashed on a 4/2007 build e60 535i?

We have not found a flash limit in any of our testing. Our test ECUs and cars have many flashes with no issues.

We're working hard on releasing official 2007 N54 maps (out of Beta) and Stage 2 maps should follow by the end of summer!

[Black Sheep]

[Mr. Nice]

end of summer?!?!