E90 vs. Mazdaspeed 6

JonnyCrash · 11-08-2005, 11:20 AM

There was a thread about this earlier, which was ultimately hijacked and turned into a sad and hopefully non-repeated collection of Japanese motor-car bashing. I would ask that people stay on topic here, and simply discuss the similarities, differences of one vehicle as opposed to another.

At any rate, Autoweek posted an interesting article on the Mazdaspeed 6, comparing it to the three series. It can be found here:
Autoweek article

As an aside, I saw a grey Mazdaspeed 6 on my way to work yesterday. It looks quite nice in the sheetmetal, but nowhere near as refined or prestigious as a 3 series. Frankly, I feel the cars are aimed at completely different audiences: one is a luxury sedan with excellent performance, the other a souped-up sports version of a low-end performance sedan. Your mileage and opinions may vary!

voltron1011 · 11-08-2005, 11:56 AM

I think the author of the article summed it up well, "The MazdaSpeed6 may be a better sport sedan than most competitors' efforts, but it can't beat BMW at its own game."

noflash · 11-08-2005, 12:05 PM

I like it, except for the fact that it received a "Poor" rating for side crash test from the IIHS. I could never consider it because of that alone -- shame.

e90 fan · 11-08-2005, 12:08 PM

If the weight distribution remains the same in the Mazdaspeed 6 as in the regular mazda 6, handling should not even be comparable to the 3 series. I have driven several 6's before, and from my experience all seem to be very nose heavy. Although the AWD in the mazdaspeed version should help, I doubt it would make a huge difference if the weight distribution remained the same

LEDZEP · 11-08-2005, 12:28 PM

This thread could just as easily be named "Jessica Alba vs. Inflatable doll"

Sho · 11-08-2005, 12:30 PM

Didn't we have the similar post once????

Bimmerista · 11-08-2005, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEDZEP

This thread could just as easily be named "Jessica Alba vs. Inflatable doll"

LOL

!!!!!!!!

There was another thread - it did not go off-topic for no good reason......

Enough of this non sense - we want to go back to bashing the proper competition, G35s, IS, A4s, something, anything, made by MB

jmcphillips1 · 11-08-2005, 02:16 PM

how is this even a discussion, a mazda over a bimmer? Please!!!

Phoenix-IT · 11-08-2005, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Abulia

There was a thread about this earlier, which was ultimately hijacked and turned into a sad and hopefully non-repeated collection of Japanese motor-car bashing. I would ask that people stay on topic here, and simply discuss the similarities, differences of one vehicle as opposed to another.

The problem was that Lux was to immature to accept the fact that people have valid opinions that differ from his own. And that's all I have to say about it...

BMW Enthusiast · 11-08-2005, 03:22 PM

There is no comparison!

RyBMW · 11-08-2005, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEDZEP

This thread could just as easily be named "Jessica Alba vs. Inflatable doll"

nyyankee · 11-08-2005, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEDZEP

This thread could just as easily be named "Jessica Alba vs. Inflatable doll"

well..... for some people, this can be a hard decision

Xens · 11-08-2005, 10:30 PM

I think it's a bit expensive for a what it is.

MAlby7 · 11-08-2005, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Xens

I think it's a bit expensive for a what it is.

Well I dunno about you but it has more power and torque than a 330i, an advanced all wheel drive system, and still costs less than a 325i. It may not be a BMW but it's definitely not overpriced.

Xens · 11-08-2005, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAlby7

Well I dunno about you but it has more power and torque than a 330i, an advanced all wheel drive system, and still costs less than a 325i. It may not be a BMW but it's definitely not overpriced.

I'm aware of the power it has. But I still think it's a bit expensive because it doesn't stand out from the competition. When I think turbo, power and AWD I immediately think EVO. Despite its reliability problems, it's an absolutely fabulous car, it's just different, I feel like I'm getting something special for the money it costs.

The regular 6 is a great car in the range of Accords and Camrys, it offers more sport and better looks in exchange of comfort/luxury, it's also more unique. But this MAZDASPEED6, it just doesn't make sense to me.

cntlaw · 11-09-2005, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAlby7

Well I dunno about you but it has more power and torque than a 330i, an advanced all wheel drive system, and still costs less than a 325i. It may not be a BMW but it's definitely not overpriced.

I am sure you are right in a view point of power/$.
But......after I re-thought about this ....when looking this way...
who says BMW hp costs the same as Mazda hp ?

noflash · 11-09-2005, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xens

I'm aware of the power it has. But I still think it's a bit expensive because it doesn't stand out from the competition. When I think turbo, power and AWD I immediately think EVO. Despite its reliability problems, it's an absolutely fabulous car, it's just different, I feel like I'm getting something special for the money it costs.

The regular 6 is a great car in the range of Accords and Camrys, it offers more sport and better looks in exchange of comfort/luxury, it's also more unique. But this MAZDASPEED6, it just doesn't make sense to me.

An Evo costs $32-$35k. The 6 is $28k.

ward · 11-09-2005, 09:48 AM

28K is darn close to 325 territory

Xens · 11-09-2005, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noflash

An Evo costs $32-$35k. The 6 is $28k.

And a regular 6 is around 23k, I'd either save money and buy that, or spend money and buy EVO.

voltron1011 · 11-09-2005, 12:19 PM

Just remember.... "If you have to explain to people why your car is cool, then it isn't a cool car." Jeremy Clarkson -Top Gear

Most people will only see the Speed6 as a regualar 6.

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JonnyCrash Driver 163 Rep 447 Posts Drives: VW GTI, BMW X5 40i M-Sport Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ottawa iTrader: (0)	E90 vs. Mazdaspeed 6 There was a thread about this earlier, which was ultimately hijacked and turned into a sad and hopefully non-repeated collection of Japanese motor-car bashing. I would ask that people stay on topic here, and simply discuss the similarities, differences of one vehicle as opposed to another. At any rate, Autoweek posted an interesting article on the Mazdaspeed 6, comparing it to the three series. It can be found here: Autoweek article As an aside, I saw a grey Mazdaspeed 6 on my way to work yesterday. It looks quite nice in the sheetmetal, but nowhere near as refined or prestigious as a 3 series. Frankly, I feel the cars are aimed at completely different audiences: one is a luxury sedan with excellent performance, the other a souped-up sports version of a low-end performance sedan. Your mileage and opinions may vary!
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voltron1011 Colonel 119 Rep 2,909 Posts Drives: 2011 135i, FJR-1300 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wiesbaden iTrader: (2)	I think the author of the article summed it up well, "The MazdaSpeed6 may be a better sport sedan than most competitors' efforts, but it can't beat BMW at its own game."
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e90 fan New Member 1 Rep 23 Posts Drives: 2002 Acura RSX Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	If the weight distribution remains the same in the Mazdaspeed 6 as in the regular mazda 6, handling should not even be comparable to the 3 series. I have driven several 6's before, and from my experience all seem to be very nose heavy. Although the AWD in the mazdaspeed version should help, I doubt it would make a huge difference if the weight distribution remained the same
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voltron1011 Colonel 119 Rep 2,909 Posts Drives: 2011 135i, FJR-1300 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wiesbaden iTrader: (2)	Just remember.... "If you have to explain to people why your car is cool, then it isn't a cool car." Jeremy Clarkson -Top Gear Most people will only see the Speed6 as a regualar 6.
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