Did you (really) take all your mods off before servicing?

bep · 04-12-2010, 09:47 AM

Hi guys, I am new to this forum and did search before asking.

I have a 2008 135i and am very disappointed with the car''s performance. I am thinking about getting a JB3, I saw the installation video, it does not seem it is something you can do in your lunch break.

So my question is: for those who have it, did you go through that painful uninstall procedure every time you service your car?

thanks

kirby135i · 04-12-2010, 09:59 AM

Takes 20 mins Or so once u get it down. Take it out for svc

M3Newbie88 · 04-12-2010, 10:03 AM

I only remove my tune.. everything else stays on.. it would kill me or cost a fortune everytime I go in to remove my bolt on's lol..

Castr_85M · 04-12-2010, 10:03 AM

I jsut had mine installed this weekend and Alex@Akmotorwerks did it in about 30 mins and that was running a USB cable into my glovebox as well. I mean im sure he has done over a dozen of these installs but you get an idea.

My135 · 04-12-2010, 10:12 AM

For regular maintenance service, I don't remove any mode.

jeremyc74 · 04-12-2010, 10:23 AM

The JB3 removal is pretty easy, and as others have already said, it can be done in about 20 mins. I don't take mine off for regular service. I just set it to map 0 and take it in. If I'm having warranty work done on the car, it comes off completely though. If they open up the ECU compartment and see non-factory wiring they'll deny coverage.

hbiscuit · 04-12-2010, 10:33 AM

the pnp JB3 is absolutely something that can be done on a lunch break.

the pin-out JB3 is pretty easy to remove and reinstall even.... takes me about 30-45 minutes to get it in-out

spud · 04-12-2010, 10:34 AM

this makes for a tricky issue if you are getting towed on BMW NA's dime.

If you break down and they send a truck, you have to have all your tools on the side of the road to take out the JB3 and then have a laptop to reset the code ALL before the tow truck gets there to take your car to the dealer..

anyone experience this?

and no, the tow truck wont take your car home first.. lol

I guess you can have them take it home then tow to the dealer on your dime, but that would be big $$

KingOfJericho · 04-12-2010, 10:37 AM

I'm still in awe of the "very disappointed with the car''s performance" comment. What were you expecting? Our cars get to 60 in the same amount of time as a Ferrari F355 and not even a second slower than a 360 Modena. For $43k I would be an idiot to be disappointed.

Dan135i · 04-12-2010, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

I'm still in awe of the "very disappointed with the car''s performance" comment. What were you expecting? Our cars get to 60 in the same amount of time as a Ferrari F355 and not even a second slower than a 360 Modena. For $43k I would be an idiot to be disappointed.

Mark M · 04-12-2010, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

I'm still in awe of the "very disappointed with the car''s performance" comment. What were you expecting? Our cars get to 60 in the same amount of time as a Ferrari F355 and not even a second slower than a 360 Modena. For $43k I would be an idiot to be disappointed.

Agreed 100%. If you are disappointed in the 135 performance, then you must be coming from exotic automobile territory. The 135 is one of the most wicked cars on the road today. For the money, not much out there that delivers the same level of refinement and performance.

Would love to hear you elaborate as to why you find this car so very disappointing?

jeremyc74 · 04-12-2010, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark M

Would love to hear you elaborate as to why you find this car so very disappointing?

I was disappointed with the way it falls flat on its face as you pass 4500RPMs, and I wasn't coming from an exotic at all.

aksundog · 04-12-2010, 11:16 AM

You sure your car isn't a rebadged 128?

KingOfJericho · 04-12-2010, 11:16 AM

I came from an Exige that revved all the way to 9k with a nice kick from a cam change at 6k. I am not disappointed in the least with the 135. It's designed to be driven daily and comfortably. You should have known going into it that a TT 6 would not have the same power delivery as a high revving NA 6 or 8. I thought that was common knowledge.

DBFIU · 04-12-2010, 11:21 AM

Considering the OP hasnt responded yet, we should give him the benefit of the doubt on his comment "dissapointed with 135i's performance". Maybe he didn't explain himself well enough.

In any case, I removed every single mod before I went in for service. I even washed the ECU cover to get rid of my finger prints and dirt that got on it. For an hour of work, why should I take a chance?

onefastman · 04-12-2010, 11:35 AM

I left my tune in and the dealer got a surise visit from the regional rep, game over.
Take the 20 min and remove your tune.

Dan135i · 04-12-2010, 11:36 AM

Screw it, go baller like me and never take a car in to get serviced. 3 months out the door on my last car I upgraded turbo, clutch, and everything else outside the internals. Never happier to do all the work myself.

And not one major fault that I didnt cause myself by added upgrades. Unless its an utter lemon, or the engine blows after a few months, no worries, screw the stealerships.

jeremyc74 · 04-12-2010, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan135i

Screw it, go baller like me and never take a car in to get serviced. 3 months out the door on my last car I upgraded turbo, clutch, and everything else outside the internals. Never happier to do all the work myself.

And not one major fault that I didnt cause myself by added upgrades. Unless its an utter lemon, or the engine blows after a few months, no worries, screw the stealerships.

Doing that on this car may very well mean you're shelling out $400 for replacement fuel pumps two or three times during the warranty period though. On most cars I'm not generally concerned about the warranty on the powertrain, but in this case I think it's worthwhile to try and keep in intact as long as you can.

twenzel · 04-12-2010, 12:17 PM

I've got in the JB3 removal down to 15 minutes using a cordless drill for the 8mm bolts. I just leave the USB cable in there, you cant see it in the DME box unless you really look for it.

There are people who leave it in when going for service and change to map 0 (pass through) and it is undetectable unless you open the DME box and look.

Dan135i · 04-12-2010, 03:54 PM

The pump would be the only issue, but its supposedly rectified for MY11, we shall see.... And if it is the fuel pump going bad, its a known fault and they cannot holdout replacing it for free... but they can void the warrante on everything else that they see modified.

MrRoboto · 04-12-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bep

Hi guys, I am new to this forum and did search before asking.

I have a 2008 135i and am very disappointed with the car''s performance. I am thinking about getting a JB3, I saw the installation video, it does not seem it is something you can do in your lunch break.

So my question is: for those who have it, did you go through that painful uninstall procedure every time you service your car?

thanks

You are very disappointed with the stock performance?

bep · 04-12-2010, 04:25 PM

I say I am disappointed because the car (in stock form) seems very slow accelerating. I guess I was too impressed by the specs of 300 hp 6cyl bi-turbo. I had owned a 99 mustang gt, which with 260 declared hp feels a lot faster than the 135i.
My last car was an 06 Evo. While I wasn't expecting the explosive power of that little 4, the 135i did not reach my expectations. Whether you find it very fast or not, depends on what you've been driving. I believe the JB3 will resolve the problem, just by reading the other people's reviews on it.
Oh, what happens if you don't service your car? Can you erase those service warning messages?

04-12-2010, 09:47 AM	#1
bep New Member 4 Rep 14 Posts Drives: Carless Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: MD iTrader: (0)	Did you (really) take all your mods off before servicing? Hi guys, I am new to this forum and did search before asking. I have a 2008 135i and am very disappointed with the car''s performance. I am thinking about getting a JB3, I saw the installation video, it does not seem it is something you can do in your lunch break. So my question is: for those who have it, did you go through that painful uninstall procedure every time you service your car? thanks
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04-12-2010, 09:59 AM	#2
kirby135i Lieutenant 15 Rep 506 Posts Drives: bmw Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: here iTrader: (1)	Takes 20 mins Or so once u get it down. Take it out for svc
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04-12-2010, 10:03 AM	#3
M3Newbie88 Brigadier General 138 Rep 4,053 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Canada iTrader: (5)	I only remove my tune.. everything else stays on.. it would kill me or cost a fortune everytime I go in to remove my bolt on's lol..
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04-12-2010, 10:03 AM	#4
Castr_85M Captain 55 Rep 944 Posts Drives: AW/Fox 6MT E90 M3 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: NYC iTrader: (7)	I jsut had mine installed this weekend and Alex@Akmotorwerks did it in about 30 mins and that was running a USB cable into my glovebox as well. I mean im sure he has done over a dozen of these installs but you get an idea.
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04-12-2010, 10:12 AM	#5
My135 Lieutenant Colonel 85 Rep 1,609 Posts Drives: Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (0)	For regular maintenance service, I don't remove any mode. __________________ 7/08 135 Coupe, Crimson Red, 6 SP, Sport, Taupe Lette/Aluminum. Performance Mods: JB4 on Map 5, BMS DP Fix V3, Injen polished intake, AR Catless DP, Maddad resonated mid-pipes, aFe exhaust polished tips, ST Suspension Coil Over and Hotchkis front sway bar. Others: BMS OCC, BT Scanner, Mud Flap. Next Mods: AA Front Strut Brace.
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04-12-2010, 10:23 AM	#6
jeremyc74 Banned 76 Rep 5,970 Posts Drives: '08 135i Montego/Terra Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Evansville, IN iTrader: (0)	The JB3 removal is pretty easy, and as others have already said, it can be done in about 20 mins. I don't take mine off for regular service. I just set it to map 0 and take it in. If I'm having warranty work done on the car, it comes off completely though. If they open up the ECU compartment and see non-factory wiring they'll deny coverage.
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04-12-2010, 10:33 AM	#7
hbiscuit First Lieutenant 11 Rep 319 Posts Drives: 2008 M3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Baltimore, MD iTrader: (0)	the pnp JB3 is absolutely something that can be done on a lunch break. the pin-out JB3 is pretty easy to remove and reinstall even.... takes me about 30-45 minutes to get it in-out
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04-12-2010, 10:34 AM	#8
spud Private First Class 13 Rep 157 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Woodbridge, VA iTrader: (0)	this makes for a tricky issue if you are getting towed on BMW NA's dime. If you break down and they send a truck, you have to have all your tools on the side of the road to take out the JB3 and then have a laptop to reset the code ALL before the tow truck gets there to take your car to the dealer.. anyone experience this? and no, the tow truck wont take your car home first.. lol I guess you can have them take it home then tow to the dealer on your dime, but that would be big $$ __________________ (0OO \ (\|\|\|\|)(\|\|\|\|) / OO0) Alex 2009 135i LMB M package
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04-12-2010, 10:37 AM	#9
KingOfJericho Major General 2452 Rep 7,341 Posts Drives: Yes Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CT iTrader: (1) Garage List 2010 135i Coupe [5.26]	I'm still in awe of the "very disappointed with the car''s performance" comment. What were you expecting? Our cars get to 60 in the same amount of time as a Ferrari F355 and not even a second slower than a 360 Modena. For $43k I would be an idiot to be disappointed. __________________ The views and opinions expressed in this post are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of Bimmerpost. 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee High Altitude Hemi \| 2010 S4 Sold \| 2010 BMW 135i Retired \| 2006 Lotus Exige Sold
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04-12-2010, 11:16 AM	#13
aksundog Private First Class 13 Rep 107 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: May 2009 Location: Anchorage, AK iTrader: (1)	You sure your car isn't a rebadged 128?
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04-12-2010, 11:21 AM	#15
DBFIU Crack Addict 84 Rep 759 Posts Drives: Fast Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hollywood, Florida iTrader: (0)	Considering the OP hasnt responded yet, we should give him the benefit of the doubt on his comment "dissapointed with 135i's performance". Maybe he didn't explain himself well enough. In any case, I removed every single mod before I went in for service. I even washed the ECU cover to get rid of my finger prints and dirt that got on it. For an hour of work, why should I take a chance? __________________ 2009 - Titanium Silver - Steptronic - 135i - Nasty
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04-12-2010, 11:35 AM	#16
onefastman Major General 159 Rep 5,689 Posts Drives: 2009 135i 2011 e92m dct Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Earth iTrader: (15)	I left my tune in and the dealer got a surise visit from the regional rep, game over. Take the 20 min and remove your tune. __________________ Legal Disclaimer: Anything I or anyone else says about my vehicle on this website(1addicts.com or any affiliated or nonaffiliated sites), pertaining to modifications, is only to gain acceptance from my/our peers, and does not actually represent anything actually existing on my car, and thus, cannot be held against me in any issues, i.e. warranty claims, that may arise.
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04-12-2010, 11:36 AM	#17
Dan135i Banned 3 Rep 76 Posts Drives: Vehicle Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: The World iTrader: (0)	Screw it, go baller like me and never take a car in to get serviced. 3 months out the door on my last car I upgraded turbo, clutch, and everything else outside the internals. Never happier to do all the work myself. And not one major fault that I didnt cause myself by added upgrades. Unless its an utter lemon, or the engine blows after a few months, no worries, screw the stealerships.
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twenzel Captain 53 Rep 754 Posts Drives: 15 Audi S3 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Austin TX iTrader: (2)	I've got in the JB3 removal down to 15 minutes using a cordless drill for the 8mm bolts. I just leave the USB cable in there, you cant see it in the DME box unless you really look for it. There are people who leave it in when going for service and change to map 0 (pass through) and it is undetectable unless you open the DME box and look.
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04-12-2010, 03:54 PM	#20
Dan135i Banned 3 Rep 76 Posts Drives: Vehicle Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: The World iTrader: (0)	The pump would be the only issue, but its supposedly rectified for MY11, we shall see.... And if it is the fuel pump going bad, its a known fault and they cannot holdout replacing it for free... but they can void the warrante on everything else that they see modified.
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04-12-2010, 04:25 PM	#22
bep New Member 4 Rep 14 Posts Drives: Carless Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: MD iTrader: (0)	I say I am disappointed because the car (in stock form) seems very slow accelerating. I guess I was too impressed by the specs of 300 hp 6cyl bi-turbo. I had owned a 99 mustang gt, which with 260 declared hp feels a lot faster than the 135i. My last car was an 06 Evo. While I wasn't expecting the explosive power of that little 4, the 135i did not reach my expectations. Whether you find it very fast or not, depends on what you've been driving. I believe the JB3 will resolve the problem, just by reading the other people's reviews on it. Oh, what happens if you don't service your car? Can you erase those service warning messages?
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