Is now a good time to buy a e82 ?

[Bob Z.]

Originally Posted by dogbolter

If I could find a 2013 for that money, I would buy it in a heartbeat. I've been thinking about replacing my 128 with a 2013, but there are zero deals like that round here.

You could find a gently used 2013 135i with a 6MT and M-Sport with a few thousand miles on it on the $30ks.

[TheSt|G]

Originally Posted by Ian///M

F22 will be a winner IMO. Why 2 year wait? Production starts later this year.

The E82 shape is essentially 7 years old

I thought the "buy a 135i" commentary was the worst suggestion in this thread, but this has to take the cake.

F22 is going to ruin the core of the 1er, being a good driving experience. You just can't have it with BMWs no feel garbage EPS.

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by TheSt|G

I thought the "buy a 135i" commentary was the worst suggestion in this thread, but this has to take the cake.

F22 is going to ruin the core of the 1er, being a good driving experience. You just can't have it with BMWs no feel garbage EPS.

lol. hey man we get the point you like the 128. i do too. but it's time to accept that others have different preferences...

i agree about the doubt surrounding the F22. my fear is that it will be an electric steering, fake-exhaust note, over-refined mess of a car meant to appeal to 'everybody' rather than a specific target audience like the E82 generally was. In summary: DILUTED. or it might just be us thinking over-cynically and with paranoia!

[TheSt|G]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

lol. hey man we get the point you like the 128. i do too. but it's time to accept that others have different preferences...

i agree about the doubt surrounding the F22. my fear is that it will be an electric steering, fake-exhaust note, over-refined mess of a car meant to appeal to 'everybody' rather than a specific target audience like the E82 generally was. In summary: DILUTED. or it might just be us thinking over-cynically and with paranoia!

This has nothing to do with my like of the 128i. OP asked if he should get a newer 128i to replace the older one he loves, and if it is worth it based on the discount the dealer was offering him. Random people then tell him to buy a 135i, which is about as relevant as suggesting a Dodge Ram. He was asking about the value proposition of trading up model years, not if he should buy a different car.

F22 is going to be awful like the F10 and F30. No way around it, BMW EPS murders the driving experience.

[dogbolter]

Originally Posted by Bob Z.

You could find a gently used 2013 135i with a 6MT and M-Sport with a few thousand miles on it on the $30ks.

Maybe, but still 30k even for a brand new 128 with Sport package is a great deal.

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by TheSt|G

This has nothing to do with my like of the 128i. OP asked if he should get a newer 128i to replace the older one he loves, and if it is worth it based on the discount the dealer was offering him. Random people then tell him to buy a 135i, which is about as relevant as suggesting a Dodge Ram. He was asking about the value proposition of trading up model years, not if he should buy a different car.

F22 is going to be awful like the F10 and F30. No way around it, BMW EPS murders the driving experience.

well it's quite boring to buy the same car over and over again.....new experiences are rewarding! I don't see how a 135i isn't a great suggestion----considering it's the same car with a different engine, and thus a different driving experience. Life is too short to repeat the same thing over and over again!

[TheSt|G]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

well it's quite boring to buy the same car over and over again.....new experiences are rewarding! I don't see how a 135i isn't a great suggestion----considering it's the same car with a different engine, and thus a different driving experience. Life is too short to repeat the same thing over and over again!

Some of us know what we want out of a car, and aren't just looking for random experiences. If he is like most enthusiast 128i owners, he is looking for balanced NA performance with great driving dynamics and rock solid reliability. The 135i is a poorer match for those needs.

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by TheSt|G

Some of us know what we want out of a car, and aren't just looking for random experiences. If he is like most enthusiast 128i owners, he is looking for balanced NA performance with great driving dynamics and rock solid reliability. The 135i is a poorer match for those needs.

ha. ok. whatever makes you happy, mate!

[Alf_flash]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

ha. ok. whatever makes you happy, mate!

The issue with the 135 is that first of all, here there are no more 135's no more, finito, gone... The 128i m sport is the last car arriving to this country. (I mean the last) so i bought the last e82 every to be sold here.

The other point is that i want it brand new, there is no possible way i will buy gently used again "gently used" means abused and drove like it was stolen (in my experience)

Next issue is that the 135 does qualify here to pay taxes every single year and the 128i does not pay anything... I asked the goverment and the 135 2011 pays around 2,5k each year... And the 128 cero cero cero !

Last point, the insurance for the 135 is excatly the double as for the 128i

So with this said, i do love the 135i but i had a good chance of buying a 128 brand new (which looks sick with the m sport) and not tear apart my complete economy....

[TheSt|G]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

ha. ok. whatever makes you happy, mate!

In the end, it would appear you were right.

[Alf_flash]

Originally Posted by TheSt|G

In the end, it would appear you were right.

And you where right too !

[Alf_flash]

http://www.autos-usados.autoplaza.co...A25611682.aspx

Follow the link to watch my current 128i 2009 being sold...

[vertebra]

Originally Posted by TheSt|G

Quote:

Originally Posted by IEDEI

well it's quite boring to buy the same car over and over again.....new experiences are rewarding! I don't see how a 135i isn't a great suggestion----considering it's the same car with a different engine, and thus a different driving experience. Life is too short to repeat the same thing over and over again!

Some of us know what we want out of a car, and aren't just looking for random experiences. If he is like most enthusiast 128i owners, he is looking for balanced NA performance with great driving dynamics and rock solid reliability. The 135i is a poorer match for those needs.

I don't think suggesting a 135i is stupid at all. We all know what your ultimate 128i is(msport with stick preferably with no sunroof) but the original poster obviously did not subscribe to that since he bought a non msport automatic. If someone on the VWVortex asked if he should buy a Golf again they would obviously get recommendations to get a GTI, R32 or even a Audi. So sensitive.




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[Aipom]

I say go for it! I am picking up a 135is myself tomorrow.

[TheSt|G]

Originally Posted by Ian///M

In what way is the M235i going to be a "garbage" car

Go drive anything from the F generation and find out.

[Iron Man]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

well it's quite boring to buy the same car over and over again.....new experiences are rewarding! I don't see how a 135i isn't a great suggestion----considering it's the same car with a different engine, and thus a different driving experience. Life is too short to repeat the same thing over and over again!

Then again if you know what you like and what you want, why change? I would buy my 128i again if it was available 6-7 years from now. I might just mix it up with a new color, like blue and different wheels, but BMW made that decision for me already. Making a change just to do something different can also end up biting you in the ass.

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by Iron Man

Then again if you know what you like and what you want, why change? I would buy my 128i again if it was available 6-7 years from now. I might just mix it up with a new color, like blue and different wheels, but BMW made that decision for me already. Making a change just to do something different can also end up biting you in the ass.

change is a good thing. after 12 years of driving Audis....i am glad i changed to try something new. you find things you like---explore new things....and you never know, you might find yourself surprised liking things you would have otherwise never tried.

seriously.....everyone i knew was 'shocked' when i decided to buy a 1-series...as i've been a die hard Audi-phile for a while now. But it's refreshing to do something different sometimes. Life is more interesting when it is less predictable.

besides...if you don't want to change---KEEP your 128. there's no reason to get a 'new' one...just keep it. I've had my TT for 12 years and plan to have it 25 years from now as well....and still be driving whatever else i fancy in that time as my DD or other.

[Iron Man]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

change is a good thing. after 12 years of driving Audis....i am glad i changed. you find things you like---explore new things....and you never know, you might find yourself surprised liking things you would have otherwise never tried.

seriously.....everyone i knew was 'shocked' when i decided to buy a 1-series...as i've been a die hard Audi-phile for a while now. But it's refreshing to do something different sometimes. Life is more interesting when it is less predictable.

besides...if you don't want to change---KEEP your 128. there's no reason to get a 'new' one...just keep it. I've had my TT for 12 years and plan to have it 25 years from now as well....and still be driving whatever else i fancy in that time as my DD or other.

Well I guess we are both right! Different strokes for different folks.

[Bob Z.]

Originally Posted by dogbolter

Maybe, but still 30k even for a brand new 128 with Sport package is a great deal.

And then add tax, which can be lessened if you buy from a private seller, and the dealer fee and it might not be the deal you expect.

[vertebra]

Originally Posted by Bob Z.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dogbolter

Maybe, but still 30k even for a brand new 128 with Sport package is a great deal.

And then add tax, which can be lessened if you buy from a private seller, and the dealer fee and it might not be the deal you expect.

Not to mention the $2500 hit in value the car will take just driving it off the lot(per KBB).




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[TheSt|G]

Originally Posted by Iron Man

Then again if you know what you like and what you want, why change? I would buy my 128i again if it was available 6-7 years from now. I might just mix it up with a new color, like blue and different wheels, but BMW made that decision for me already. Making a change just to do something different can also end up biting you in the ass.

Exactly.

I want NA, RWD, lightweight, and a manual transmission. Only cars that have my interest currently are the Cayman S and Stingray.

[TheSt|G]

Originally Posted by Ian///M

You have driven a M135 then? I can tell you it is better than the E82.

Yes, and aside from styling in that awesome alcantara interior, I don't agree at all.